Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #2

[zecats]

Well.. I did as you asked. We can famously “agree to disagree.” As he rereads the question, he is nodding to affirm its accuracy imo. Then he starts shaking no, as a course correction in case anyone was misinterpreting his nod. Then, and here imo is the important part, instead of “yes, next question.” Or something like, “we are working hard to bring Suzanne home...” , he meanders needlessly to try to answer the question both honestly and evasively with a “could” and “possibly” thrown in. As I stated previously, those are “tells”. Just as “...and I hope he continues to do so”, which is really huge. IMO, the most revelatory thing the public has received up til this point.

So what say you on the recent video released by husband, asking for whoever has her basically to give her back? Sincerely curious.

 

[indicolite22]

I agree with all you said.

My biggest concern is it seems like this would have been better served to do in tandem with LE. Why does it seem like there is a "us & them" mentality (TN's efforts)?

Perhaps the family has not been cleared yet and they are doing their own thing. I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't getting every detail from the police.

 

[GordianKnot]

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It does take considerable time to gather and analyze evidence.
LE doesn't arrest people until they're good and ready, and they've gotten the green light from the DA.

They don't want to just arrest the person that's responsible for SM's disappearance.
They want to arrest, charge, try, and convict the person who's responsible for her disappearance.

Right now, LE has made it abundantly clear that their priority finding Suzanne.

Of course, the hope is that she's still alive.
It's the hope, but not necessarily the belief.

If she's no longer alive, which unfortunately appears to be the likelier scenario here, then the DA would strongly prefer to have her body found before bringing murder charges, if this is indeed a case of foul play.

No-body cases are much more challenging for prosecutors.

JMO.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Well.. I did as you asked. We can famously “agree to disagree.” As he rereads the question, he is nodding to affirm its accuracy imo. Then he starts shaking no, as a course correction in case anyone was misinterpreting his nod. Then, and here imo is the important part, instead of “yes, next question.” Or something like, “we are working hard to bring Suzanne home...” , he meanders needlessly to try to answer the question both honestly and evasively with a “could” and “possibly” thrown in. As I stated previously, those are “tells”. Just as “...and I hope he continues to do so”, which is really huge. IMO, the most revelatory thing the public has received up til this point.

Nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree

Several seem really bothered that BM's video was a self-produced FB clip but it doesn't raise a red flag for me at all.
We all see different things, some notice things others don't etc.
Part of what makes the discussions here so lively and intriguing while we're looking over a case together.
It's all good

 

[Tortoise]

"Oh Suzanne, if anyone is out there that can hear this, that has you, please, we’ll do whatever it takes to bring you back.
We love you, we miss you, your girls need you.
No questions asked, however much they want, I will do whatever it takes to get you back.
Honey I love you and I want you back so bad."

I'm not picking up a real belief in a kidnapper.

The first line addresses a kidnapper but then reverts to addressing Suzanne directly, as if she would be held against her will but free to access social media and not able to contact police? Third line also mixed between they and you, so he sees her as the conduit of the message.

Second and last lines direct to Suzanne. Your girls need you implies a choice to leave, or a play on her to feel guilt, and I wonder why he says your.

Lots of expressions of love, which makes me wonder who the intended audience is - Suzanne, the kidnapper, or anyone else. The expressions of love strike me as being more rueful than anything.

No plea direct to kidnapper. Please don't hurt her, tell us where we can find her, tell us what you want, please let her go. I might have expected to hear worry that she's being kept safe and unharmed - it seems he has a picture of her in his mind, in good condition and in control of her surroundings and captors.

JM super-critical O

(This presupposes he hasn't had specialist advice regarding psychology of kidnappers)

 

[tge17]

So what say you on the recent video released by husband, asking for whoever has her basically to give her back? Sincerely curious.

I don’t like it. No emotion. It’s addressed to Suzanne and then immediately to potential abductors in less than a sentence. And it’s not a interview, so this was prepared. What was it 3-4 short sentences? What was elapsed time...20 seconds? Intentional... the less he is on screen, the less he might be expected to show raw emotion. Nope, don’t like it.

 

[Whiteorchids]

I agree with you. I want to believe right along with you. I do find it odd that this is a Facebook video. I would think it would better serve to get national media involved because not everyone has Facebook (I don’t), but at least he’s speaking out.

Some people who have money think the answer is to throw money at the situation because that’s what usually works, so maybe that’s what he is used to doing? I hope she’s found soon because today marks a week and it’s not looking good. MOO

Or he knows it will never be paid out

 

[Inthedetails]

If this really is a kidnapping, I hope the kidnapper is paying attention to FB postings.

I guess the media will pick it up and report on it, "no questions asked" from them to the husband.

jmo

 

[MsBetsy]

Exactly. Controlling the “interview”. I’m Not saying he did anything. But very bizarre to do this type of video. You would be chasing media down to get the word out. You would be requesting interviews. Day 1
Thats my opinion.

I'm thinking he wants to steer clear of the media. He knows his video will be picked up quickly by MSM.

It does seem like the family is conducting their own investigation, or at least their own searches, separate from LE.

I wonder if Barry has given LE any information that points to Suzanne being kidnapped, since he seemed to assume this scenario from the beginning.

Maybe he does not approve of the direction LE is going in the investigation, and is distancing himself from them.

ETA maybe that's part of the reason LE said they hope he "continues to cooperate."

Imo

 

[Poedelini]

Im going to be tight lipped about the whole video the husband just released, but im worried.

 

[Ontario Mom]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=3792683737471669

Curious comment by SJW on BM's video.

 

[Teche]

Seems like it.
"Whatever it takes"(this video) and "no questions asked"(from the husband's earlier statement).
Why haven't the daughters made a plea ?

Gannon Stauch's parents made several public pleas and his little sister even appeared for one of the video pleas.
If your loved one is missing and you truly think someone has her-- you're going to be front and center at pressers as much as possible !
To the point that you're pestering LE and begging for her safe return !

The daughters might not be comfortable or capable of making a statement at this time. I wish LE and the media were present for the video but I am glad the video is being posted to the Find Suzanne fb page.

 

[IceIce9]

I don’t like it. No emotion. It’s addressed to Suzanne and then immediately to potential abductors in less than a sentence. And it’s not a interview, so this was prepared. What was it 3-4 short sentences? What was elapsed time...20 seconds? Intentional... the less he is on screen, the less he might be expected to show raw emotion. Nope, don’t like it.

I don’t think that video helped him at all. MOO

 

[carbuff]

In small western communities, neighbors still keep track of neighbors, as if they were family members. I don't think the neighbor's concern when she didn't return needs any more explanation than that. JMO

Yes.

And telling someone where you're going, when you'll be back, and what to do if you aren't back is just common, basic safety practice among people who go out for longer hikes, walks, bike rides, or rock climbing, canoeing, swimming, etc. --whatever activity you're into that you could be injured and a distance from help or out of cell phone range. Friend, neighbor, or a note on your car's dashboard or the trailhead sign-in board.

In our neighborhood, people are paying more attention to each other, checking in with each other, and generally noticing more since the stay-at-home order. I can see telling a neighbor something now that I might not have mentioned three months ago. So I can believe she did tell the neighbor, I can believe the neighbor noticed her go out and not return, and I can believe that someone else noticed and called to ask the neighbor to check. None of them strike me as inherently unbelievable.

 

[AbbysMom]

Not sure why I feel this way, but I'd be willing to bet the family farm that he had nothing to do with Suzanne's disappearance. Will be interesting to see how this turns out, because no one is talking - family or LE.

 

[LaborDayRN]

No questions. No answers. Who knows -- maybe he thinks he has no information to share. JMO.

I am curious about the press being absent. Maybe it was a way to control the narrative? No questions asked or needing to be answered? Is it possible LE would recommend this type of statement?

 

[al66pine]

Big Reward & Go *advertiser censored*d Me?

..... Large reward money offered immediately. Doubled soon after. Unless someone knew it would never be paid. And now a ***, if you can afford $200,000 for a reward, you should not need an appeal for public money....

@Frannie sbm Yes, at first glance, seems incongruous but maybe not.
--- Reward is being offered by BM, husband.
--- Fund raiser, started by nephew, stated (IIRC, from initial wording of page) that intended use of $$ was partly to transport ppl to the area for searches, for lodging fees, etc.

Does nephew (or any/some SM & BM fam/friends) live close enough to participate in searches, to post flyers locally, to allow them to participate without incurring exp's like airfare, hotel costs, rental cars, etc.
If in the nephew's shoes wanting to help, but not easily able to afford it, does not strike me* as unusual that a fam member/close friend would start a fund raiser. The nephew might hesitate to directly ask uncle BM for $$$ to participate, hence the . Or perhaps nephew feels some uncertainty about BM's sincerity/motive re reward. Just a couple possibilities, not saying that any one of them is accurate.
IOW, the husband's willingness to offer $100,000 as reward (ditto, a friend) does not necessarily translate into $$ available for activities the nephew wants to help w/manage.

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* even tho doubtful that I would personally ever do this, but never say never, right? Just me.

 

[Whiteorchids]

If you truly thought your loved one was kidnapped, wouldn’t you put it out there on a national media platform? Does he expect said kidnapper to be obsessively checking FB? I’m just...confused. No description of where/when she was last seen, nothing. Just the plea, “no questions asked”, any amount, whatever it takes. I don’t know. This is...odd.

Additionally as others have pointed out, kidnapping for ransom especially in this day and age is incredibly uncommon. I’d take the odds on an alien abduction over a kidnapping for ransom, at this point.

Maybe it’s the same guy who supposedly Kidnapped and killed Jon Benet Ramsey with that Ransom note I believe was fake. That was in Colorado on Christmas. Why do all these missing family murders seem to happen on an important day. Kelsey Thanksgiving, Lacy Christmas, now Suzanne on Mother’s Day to name a few.

 

[Inthedetails]

Perhaps the family has not been cleared yet and they are doing their own thing. I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't getting every detail from the police.

IMO, LE doesn't tell even family details on an investigation. It seems like next of kin have some sort of right to information, but they actually don't. LE's priority is to the investigation/victim.

If LE does release details, they are in control of that release, not the family.

jmo based on observation (not a LE expert)

 

[carbuff]

If hubby and I go for long rides, we take with us:

small back packs with the following-
phone
trail mix- nuts and fruits
beef jerky
water
don't laugh- mini first aid kit, ace bandage included
whistle
ponchos
towel

about 3 pounds worth of stuff.

Right. I forgot about all the stuff Mr. Carbuff carries on the bike. A spare tube and repair kit, for one thing. One of those multi-wrench thingies. And yeah, the first aid kit.