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⦁ Sunday 10th May,
BM left Suzanne sleeping at 5 AM in the morning to go and prep stuff at his worksite in denver.
Her friend who chatted with her from the night before and Suzannes daughters are unable to reach her.
The daughers call or text BM and let him know they are unable to reach their mother.
BM calls the neighbor and ask to check up on Suzanne.
At 5.46 PM Neighbor calls LE when she is unable to locate suzanne after the phonecall with BM.
At aprox. 9 PM at night BM comes home from denver.
LE began searching immediately.
oh that's a good idea, too. didn't think of that. or maybe BM's own car was there, when it was supposed to be somewhere else.
Thank you for the very thorough timeline! IMO I am still so confused by Sunday evening. So, the neighbor calls 911 at 5:46 after speaking to BM. Does LE ever contact BM by phone to clarify what the situation is? What time did LE arrive at the residence? What caused them to be concerned about SM? Did they start searching right then or not until BM arrived home after 9:00pm? When did the girls arrive home? And, of course, how do the 2 cars in the driveway play into this? Who else did BM call after telling the neighbor to call 911? We are missing so many pieces of the puzzle I feel like.
I don't think LE would respond to a call from a resident that her neighbor's husband is concerned that she is not home & then immediately jump into action combing the wooded areas to look for her without ever speaking to this husband. What did they see at the home that caused them so much concern?
I think the vehicle search/seizure is important. Jmo
Can we brainstorm as to why the Profiling Evil investigators have red flagged the cars five times?
I can think of several reasons or persons who may have had cars in that driveway: daughters, camping friends, Barry’s sister, Suzanne’s, Barry’s employee?
The neighbor would be able to identify Suzanne/daughters’s cars. I’m assuming if it were their cars, that info would not be so hush-hush. Of course you’d expect Suzanne and a daughter’s car to be in the driveway.
Why are these cars important?
As a busy household here with multiple cars, drivers, flopping for driveway spots, I’m always annoyed when someone has blocked my car in or even worse, blocked my car in, and left with their own car keys (with a buddy, or employee?)
Maybe Barry knew Suzanne wouldn’t need her car that day? Maybe this has more to do with a detail that Barry forgot to think through?
Or what if the cars are Suzanne/daughter cars, but the neighbor knows the ladies never parked outside the garage? What if Barry always has to park outside because the ladies always got the three garage spots? Then, their OWN cars being in their OWN driveway might be suspicious.
IMO
I agree. That wasn't such a red flag to me. Sadly, I also get distracted and dont always end a text properly (with friends and loved ones especially). I guess it depends on what the friend was accustomed to in their texting patterns.
ITA - I think this was an important conversation IMO and this is why I believe something happened within just a few minutes of the last message sent that was considered to be by SMMy view is that the friend and family know Suzanne, and we don't. Most people do not just end a text conversation that's on a particular topic (wedding) abruptly. At least, not most people I know. We all run in different crowds. Even my 9 year old granddaughter doesn't end conversations abruptly. My best friend lives in another state, we text more frequently than we talk on the phone. Neither of us ends a conversation without winding it down, otherwise the other person keeps carrying their phone around thinking the convo is still going. "Gotta go! Love ya!"
I trust the people who know Suzanne and spoke to PE more than I do the varying experiences of everyone who is reading and might want to comment. Some of us may be more like Suzanne (and end conversations with friends politely and appropriately), others may not be. The only thing that's relevant is what does Suzanne usually do, and again, I trust her family and friend.
They came forward with a concern, I trust their concern.
Police do not have a right to photograph you if you are not under arrest. They can ask you for permission to photograph you and you can refuse.
As a hypothetical ... lets say BM wanted to deflect attention from himself and put the blame on someone else (just guessing here) let's say he wanted to blame a family member from her side. Isn't it curious to you that he didn't mention that possibility at the top of his list when talking to TD?
On the other hand, if I don’t have a personal connection at local LE who I could call and was necessary to call 911, then it would be self explanatory to let the local person make the call because my 911 would be routed elsewhere if I’m out of that region.
The same is valid if I wanted to distance myself from the scene and the crime. (Even if I knew someone at the local PD)
bbmI don't know if that would be much of a red flag for me, except it would demonstrate that the person who left the car behind mine was rude. At our house, we keep extra keys on hand to move any vehicle that would normally be at the house so no one is ever blocked in.
BUT if a strange car was parked behind SM's car all day with no keys available, hmmmm. It would suggest that no one expected SM to be going anywhere in her car. THAT would be a red flag. Could he/she/they be that stupid? Yep.
I'm wondering why this family member has insisted on being anonymous. JMO
bbmI HEAR you...excellent point Tate123! Especially if he hypothetically felt threatened.
He didn't need a personal connection but had them on speed dial, no doubt, in the palm of his hand. Not calling 911 himself should be another Red flag. He is a trained First Responder, he knows the score...better than 70% of all 911 calls do come from cell phones and have for several years now. It’s nothing new to 911 or to trained first responders. Most 911 calls today route to main dispatch centers and are disbursed from there.
so they won't be harassed by the internet here and 'interviewed' by TD ?
not here but there are all sorts of internet columbos out there that are not approved sources for this site....here? are we harrassing someone?
Good question.here? are we harrassing someone?
"Seem to believe"...yes, based on what little we have seen or have learned to the contrary. As stated before, this is a discussion forum, people interested in discussing crime, trials but most importantly justice. But I assure you, from what I know of this group, I believe that "seem to believe"
could/would turn on a dime with a solid piece of contradictory evidence.
Vigilantism or the need to be proven right based on "feelings", has nothing to do with justice, we get that. Even with major contradictory evidence many would still not be crazy about or fond of Barry, may still think he's narcissistic, controlling basically a jerk....or whatever but we realize the gravity/consequences of a murder charge. It's not a matter of having a problem with the fact the law "presumes a defendant's innocence" That's one of the things that makes our country/society great IMO. How petty would we be if we thought our "guess" , or feelings about someone trumped a man's freedom?
I agree with you although I am leaning towards it being planned. I was thinking that another possibility about the cars in the driveway. What if he has a trusted employee that he asked to thoroughly clean his house while he was gone?My thoughts on BM. He’s a big, strong guy and not intimidated by rough terrain. He doesn’t need help making a body disappear. He is quite capable of carrying a 100 lbs over his shoulder into rugged back country and burying it deep.
About the 2 vehicles, if turns out that one of those cars was a coworkers’ , who joined BM on Mother’s Day morning, there is a possibility that the coworker knows something or that BM had already disposed of the body.
I’m thinking that if it was an act of rage, and BM was instantly regretful, he’d want to make ‘it’ go away as quickly as possible.
MOO
I thought I was doing pretty good at keeping up but what is the note that was found. This is the first time I have heard about it. Please tell me what the note said and where it was, etc. All information is welcome. Thank you.Handwritten note was reportedly left at store on Tuesday May 12.
LE found personal item on Thursday May 14.