Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #53

[Boxer]

IMO, he’d suddenly stop Saturday morning because he needed to go to Salida to work. He didn’t want to bring the phone because he knew the location data would be tracked. So instead the phone stayed at home and was only active when BM was also at home.

If the last outbound communication was 2:30pm on Saturday, it would be interesting to know if the phone died or went offline at that time. To our knowledge, SM’s phone was not recovered, so at some point BM disposed of it. It’s possible he powered the phone down at 2:30pm, headed to downtown Salida and disposed of it at some point.

That is really huge. A tricky phone problem.
Maybe has something to do with the last sheriff appeal, to contact them if you had any contact with Suzanne through messages or an app.

 

[kkdj]

I agree with almost everything you said! I really have tried to think about Friday...but I do think it was Saturday as well...and I think also whenever the communication stopped...thats the timeline. I think she may of been killed later that night though that's my only difference in your theory. You make great points though bc he was out in town that afternoon and he was creating an alibi imo. I honestly think he was trying to frame JP in some sort of fashion.

I think the motive is also financial. No one else but him was getting that money. Why=money, how=strangulation,the who = a bitter narcissistic husband.

MOO

Iirc BM and SM were seen in town getting food on Friday.
I keep thinking something transpired that night. Like a pretty bad fight. BM goes to work the next morning but leaves early to go home to make the wife happy. He wants her off the phone call as soon as he gets there. And the fighting continues. This is when I think she met her demise. Then he went into town to purchase some clean up stuff, maybe a tarp, whatever. Some of which was chlorine. Wasn't he seen in town Saturday afternoon, but not with SM?
All purely speculation.

 

[Rachelj1]

Iirc BM and SM were seen in town getting food on Friday.
I keep thinking something transpired that night. Like a pretty bad fight. BM goes to work the next morning but leaves early to go home to make the wife happy. He wants her off the phone call as soon as he gets there. And the fighting continues. This is when I think she met her demise. Then he went into town to purchase some clean up stuff, maybe a tarp, whatever. Some of which was chlorine. Wasn't he seen in town Saturday afternoon, but not with SM?
All purely speculation.

You could be totally right. So from my understanding they were possibly seen getting food together on Saturday afternoon ...but I don't think its been confirmed. Yes, he was seen in town Saturday afternoon...because he ran into JP.

 

[Ontario Mom]

There is this from Andy Moorman, albeit speculation.

‘I’m afraid this is domestic abuse’; Suzanne Morhpew’s brother says husband not participating in search, carrying shotgun to keep people off property | FOX31 Denver

While I do believe it's entirely possible AM is correct, I was just trying to say that neither the CCSO or MSM has stated that SM was in fact the victim of domestic violence or abuse. AM's wording in this article is incredibly vague:

“I’m afraid this is domestic abuse,” shared Moorman. Moorman said he learned while searching for Suzanne that she was “working with domestic abuse meetings.”

That could mean SO many things. It could mean she was attending meetings for herself, it could mean she was volunteering in some way through her church, similar to what she did with the Young Life group “You don’t just see beauty when Suzanne is around, you feel it”: Friends describe missing Chaffee County woman | FOX21 News Colorado and it could also mean a few other things.

Many churches and communities have domestic abuse resources - counselling, shelter, food & clothes & other necessities for those who have to leave everything behind, employment assistance, financial support resources, etc. It's entirely possible she was donating her time or talents, or money, or so many other variables. AM was not at all clear, what he meant by "working with" but that sounds more like what a volunteer might do, instead of how you'd describe a person who was actually attending domestic abuse counselling for their own personal situation.

jmo

 

[kkdj]

While I do believe it's entirely possible AM is correct, I was just trying to say that neither the CCSO or MSM has stated that SM was in fact the victim of domestic violence or abuse. AM's wording in this article is incredibly vague:

“I’m afraid this is domestic abuse,” shared Moorman. Moorman said he learned while searching for Suzanne that she was “working with domestic abuse meetings.”

That could mean SO many things. It could mean she was attending meetings for herself, it could mean she was volunteering in some way through her church, similar to what she did with the Young Life group “You don’t just see beauty when Suzanne is around, you feel it”: Friends describe missing Chaffee County woman | FOX21 News Colorado and it could also mean a few other things.

Many churches and communities have domestic abuse resources - counselling, shelter, food & clothes & other necessities for those who have to leave everything behind, employment assistance, financial support resources, etc. It's entirely possible she was donating her time or talents, or money, or so many other variables. AM was not at all clear, what he meant by "working with" but that sounds more like what a volunteer might do, instead of how you'd describe a person who was actually attending domestic abuse counselling for their own personal situation.

jmo

"Working" with them could mean many different things, obviously. But the fact that she is missing, probably deceased, her husband hasn't behaved in a grieving way that we have seen, she at least had some sort of interest in DV, was isolated, tells me there was more than likely DV in that relationship.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I also recall that DA was mentioned in her fathers' obituary, of all places.

Also speculation : What a way to present yourself as a kind and caring husband.
(paraphrased) "...See ? I'm armed. Don't you searchers step even one foot on my property...".
I get it that people don't want just anyone on their property, for liability reasons if nothing else.
It's just that these were searchers organized by Andy for the sole purpose of looking for BM's missing wife.
Smh.
MOO

Yes, the obit for GM did suggest donations might be made on his behalf, to either a local domestic violence organization, food pantry or community center.

Among his survivors, SM is described as "missing and presumed dead, daughter, Suzanne Morphew".
Obituary of Gene Moorman | Day & Carter Mortuary

Obviously, if BM is indeed guilty of disappearing this lovely and much loved woman, she was the victim of DV. No argument there. That said, we don't know for a fact if this was an ongoing thing, or if he just lost it and did something awful. If, of course, it was him at all, responsible for her going missing.

jmo

 

[Rachelj1]

"Working" with them could mean many different things, obviously. But the fact that she is missing, probably deceased, her husband hasn't behaved in a grieving way that we have seen, she at least had some sort of interest in DV, was isolated, tells me there was more than likely DV in that relationship.

Agree!!!! Also the fact that Andy in two back to back sentences says " I'm afraid this is domestic abuse" , then proceeds in the very next sentence that she was working with domestic violence groups.

 

[Rachelj1]

I also recall that DA was mentioned in her fathers' obituary, of all places.

Also speculation : What a way to present yourself as a kind and caring husband.
(paraphrased) "...See ? I'm armed. Don't you searchers step even one foot on my property...".
I get it that people don't want just anyone on their property, for liability reasons if nothing else.
It's just that these were searchers organized by Andy for the sole purpose of looking for BM's missing wife.
Smh.
MOO

What is wrong with him...carrying around a shotgun and hanging up cameras ? Hes paranoid.

MOO

 

[swedeheart]

I apologize if this has been discussed, but a thought just jumped into my head with all of the recent posts. Admittedly, I’m about 5 pages behind. I was wondering if the person Barry employed in the past and had allegedly messed up the Broomfield job, is JP. Not that it would carry much weight for me in either direction, just curious.

Sorry I don’t have a link handy, but I’m referring to the guy Barry said was a past employee and Barry was giving him up as a possible suspect. I know y’all are fully vested here, so I hope you know what I’m asking.

Thanks to all for the thought provoking posts. So well thought out! I read one that sounds plausible, then someone comes in with a different opinion and makes me think even more about all of the possibilities. I’m so grateful to be a part of this wonderful group!! Continually praying for justice for our beloved Suzanne.

The employee BM was referring to was not JP, but a different employee, in my opinion.

 

[Janeumayer]

What is wrong with him...carrying around a shotgun and hanging up cameras ? Hes paranoid.

MOO

Either he thought people would be planting “evidence” to then call LE asking for a search warrant or he is/was hiding something in his property at that time. MOO

 

[Diddian]

Either he thought people would be planting “evidence” to then call LE asking for a search warrant or he is/was hiding something in his property at that time. MOO

Interesting, isn't it though... even though BM had several ready risk factors that he offered up as reasonable explanations for his wife's disappearance (she was taken by a mountain lion, she was abducted by a stranger, she was abducted by someone she knew, a former employee who was angry about being fired might have taken her)... with all those dangers so present in the area, he still left the house security cameras disabled and did not install a landline that would provide ready communications to emergency services if needed to protect the lives of his wife and two daughters.

Yet, when none of those vulnerable persons were present and he was there alone, he chose to roam around armed and install trail cams.

I think we all know the reason the reward hasn't been changed to pay out for any information which leads to the arrest of the person responsible for SM's disappearance and drops the "for her safe return" condition.

 

[jakat]

While I do believe it's entirely possible AM is correct, I was just trying to say that neither the CCSO or MSM has stated that SM was in fact the victim of domestic violence or abuse. AM's wording in this article is incredibly vague:

“I’m afraid this is domestic abuse,” shared Moorman. Moorman said he learned while searching for Suzanne that she was “working with domestic abuse meetings.”

That could mean SO many things. It could mean she was attending meetings for herself, it could mean she was volunteering in some way through her church, similar to what she did with the Young Life group “You don’t just see beauty when Suzanne is around, you feel it”: Friends describe missing Chaffee County woman | FOX21 News Colorado and it could also mean a few other things.

Many churches and communities have domestic abuse resources - counselling, shelter, food & clothes & other necessities for those who have to leave everything behind, employment assistance, financial support resources, etc. It's entirely possible she was donating her time or talents, or money, or so many other variables. AM was not at all clear, what he meant by "working with" but that sounds more like what a volunteer might do, instead of how you'd describe a person who was actually attending domestic abuse counselling for their own personal situation.

jmo

Because Suzanne was so liked in the community, it's very possible BM was jealous of her. I think she was a victim of DV and very likely she did work with DV meetings. Just wonder if BM found out about her work and went ballistic. Pure speculation and MOO.

 

[JosieMae]

The employee BM was referring to was not JP, but a different employee, in my opinion.

Right, it wasn't JP who "messed up" the wall job. BM told AM that he fired that guy. Also JP told Lauren Scharf he had never worked for BM prior to Mother's Day weekend.

 

[Aloe]

Yes, the obit for GM did suggest donations might be made on his behalf, to either a local domestic violence organization, food pantry or community center.

Among his survivors, SM is described as "missing and presumed dead, daughter, Suzanne Morphew".
Obituary of Gene Moorman | Day & Carter Mortuary

Obviously, if BM is indeed guilty of disappearing this lovely and much loved woman, she was the victim of DV. No argument there. That said, we don't know for a fact if this was an ongoing thing, or if he just lost it and did something awful. If, of course, it was him at all, responsible for her going missing.

jmo

DV can be emotional or financial as well as physical, etc.
There may have been a premeditated decision to kill her and the camping trip provided a window of opportunity when she would have been somewhat isolated. The job schedule was then created to coincide with the camping trip? Perhaps some aspect of the sale of the Indiana home was a factor?
Just my speculation...new to the case and trying to discern speculation upon speculation of memories... memories of speculation...and the crime shows cited vs MSM... boggles the mind. Thanks to all, especially those trying to keep it real. JMO

 

[Ontario Mom]

DV can be emotional or financial as well as physical, etc.
There may have been a premeditated decision to kill her and the camping trip provided a window of opportunity when she would have been somewhat isolated. The job schedule was then created to coincide with the camping trip? Perhaps some aspect of the sale of the Indiana home was a factor?
Just my speculation...new to the case and trying to discern speculation upon speculation of memories... memories of speculation...and the crime shows cited vs MSM... boggles the mind. Thanks to all, especially those trying to keep it real. JMO

Indeed, disgusting, abusive behavior takes many forms. And also agreed, there could have been a plan in the works for a while. Or, there could have been untoward feelings brewing for a while, and certain elements just fell into place for the opportunity to do the unthinkable.
I do think eventually, we'll know the truth.

jmo

 

[Minordetails]

Yes or no?
LE has in their possession enough evidence to bring charges against SM’s killer?

 

[Spartygirl]

I always enjoy your posts . You have a way of looking at things from different angles. My whole thing with Suzanne letting him in while Barry is away is this .... there is no way he would of got away with this. I’m sure Le investigated him thoroughly just like MG. I just don’t see it . I mean I’ll admit he has a hefty past , BUT Barry trusted him enough to hire him. Another thing Barry is the only one throwing out all these crazy theories at first . Who in the world would do that ? Someone trying to put ideas in LE and the public’s head that’s who .

I don’t think Barry was away ... according to Him he didn’t leave Suzanne until 5:00am. He kind of already messed himself up there !

Moo

BBM
Exactly!!!
Look here....not there !!!
that has been his whole thing since the beginning.
And it isn't even with ONE particular thing
bobcat, bike accident, someone she knew or who knew her"
their girls are conveniently away that weekend.

 

[MsBetsy]

Yes or no?
LE has in their possession enough evidence to bring charges against SM’s killer?

I think if they did they would have made an arrest by now. If they have enough evidence for a conviction, what could they be waiting for? Even if they have plenty of circumstantial evidence they may not have physical evidence that points to SM being harmed. Imo

 

[Minordetails]

I think if they did they would have made an arrest by now. If they have enough evidence for a conviction, what could they be waiting for? Even if they have plenty of circumstantial evidence they may not have physical evidence that points to SM being harmed. Imo

I agree. So if true, how is it that people are so confident that justice is just around the corner? Where is this new evidence going to come from?

 

[MsBetsy]

Agree!!!! Also the fact that Andy in two back to back sentences says " I'm afraid this is domestic abuse" , then proceeds in the very next sentence that she was working with domestic violence groups.

Worrying or speculating that there was domestic violence in the marriage is not the same as knowing, though. From everything AM has said, it sounds more like there was emotional abuse. He wasn't the first person to say that BM was controlling. That BM (allegedly) was against Suzanne trying medical marijuana when she had cancer, or gave her a hard time over her depression almost every day, sounds like mental abuse to me. And of course, mental abuse can escalate to physical abuse.

When he says "I'm afraid this is domestic abuse," he could also be referring to "this" as the event that led to her disappearance.

Also "working" with domestic violence groups could mean many things. It doesn't necessarily mean she was attending a support group. We don't know who he heard that from and what details were given. It's possible, but it hasn't been verified. Imo