Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #53

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  • #281
I never saw the tweet until I posted it here. I recall Andy saying she was communicating with her friend at 9 pm on 5/9. That was shortly changed to 8:30 am, 2:30 pm on Saturday, I think. Was Suzanne seen in Salida on Saturday afternoon? If she was, then she was still alive on Friday. I'm also on the fence.

BM's behavior on Saturday morning leads me to believe Suzanne was already dead. Infact, his behavior that entire weekend tells me he's good for it. JMO

I wish LE dug up the entire slab at the beach site. I wonder why they dug up just that small piece. Did cadaver dogs alert just at that one spot or did they not use dogs there at the concrete?

Yes, BM is incredibly lucky. So far.

You're making me think @OldCop! :)
So basically the communication ended right after the early work day exit from the "beach" site upon arrival time at PP. Which makes me curious when this friend contacted or was contacted by LE if she was panicking. Does anyone recall?
 
  • #282
Found the OP Hoosierfan72, this is what they wrote:

“This is what I thought, too, initially. But it is both. BMs FB friends had SM show up in PYMK and friend suggestions AND AMs FB friends received friend request from SM late Sat night. The former happened to my DW and friends, the latter was stated by AM (and my DW knows two of these people).”

CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #43

Thank you. That was exactly the post I was thinking of.

It seems like logging in to SM’s profile on BM’s phone would have triggered the friend suggestions. And then maybe BM himself was sending friend requests as an attempt to make it appear SM was alive Saturday night.
 
  • #283
Thank you. That was exactly the post I was thinking of.

It seems like logging in to SM’s profile on BM’s phone would have triggered the friend suggestions. And then maybe BM himself was sending friend requests as an attempt to make it appear SM was alive Saturday night.
YES, I definitely think it had to of been BM sending the friend requests . I think he did that too to make it seem like she was going to "take off". Or was thinking irrationally.

MOO
 
  • #284
So basically the communication ended right after the early work day exit from the "beach" site upon arrival time at PP. Which makes me curious when this friend contacted or was contacted by LE if she was panicking. Does anyone recall?
No I'm not sure but I think her saying it ended abruptly is important.
MOO
 
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  • #285
@NoSI - hey I just remembered we can't link to the video I mentioned, there are some unproven allegations which make it off-limits. I think I can point you to it though - March 7 video, start at 23:26.

Thank you so much @Knox! Really appreciate it. :-) Still hopeful, but have my days where i struggle. Just have to think good thoughts.... Justice is coming!
 
  • #286
Thank you. That was exactly the post I was thinking of.

It seems like logging in to SM’s profile on BM’s phone would have triggered the friend suggestions. And then maybe BM himself was sending friend requests as an attempt to make it appear SM was alive Saturday night.

I think BM is just not very good with social media. Everytime I log into FB from a new device, it offers to sync my contacts cuz some of my phone contacts are not on my friend list on FB. I always click "not now" cuz if I wanted them on my friend list, they would already be there, BUT maybe BM isn't very savvy with technology and just clicked "ok/sync now"... if he did, PYMK would update and friend requests would be sent to people in his contacts but not already on Suzanne's friends list. I know Andy said his friends received requests but I don't think it was because they were Andy's friends. I imagine there would be some overlap in people that know Andy and also know BM. This is all JMO, but its the only scenario that makes sense to me. Jmo
 
  • #287
@NoSI - hey I just remembered we can't link to the video I mentioned, there are some unproven allegations which make it off-limits. I think I can point you to it though - March 7 video, start at 23:26.

The video can be linked, as CM is an approved source here. @Sillybilly did make this note about the specific topic that is off limits for discussion:
"Although CM has been approved as a source at WS, without knowing his source and what he is basing this allegation on, we're removing the info about BM having a girlfriend as rumor. If not true, it's just too inflammatory."
CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #53

The part about the chain of custody issue is CM giving his opinion on it, based on his experience, and that starts at around the 30:45 mark

 
  • #288
What does PYMK and ICYMI mean?

At one point, I had wondered if the phone was thrown away enroute to the Sunday job site. imo.
 
  • #289
IMO; this scenario is plausible, because, according to MG, BM sounded frantic. Freak out mode.
What to do....what to do....must get rid of this body.
Somebody in FO mode, wouldn't be considering the implications of using a woodchipper, and all of the millions of pieces of evidence it will produce. If in face BM was in the middle of panic, he would be making hasty decisions. Or, driving around in circles trying to come up with a body disposal site. IMO, IF it was a heat of the moment homicide.
Premeditated? Still possibly panic mode. His anxiety levels and vitals will still be through the roof, even while trying to follow through on his plans. No longer Mr Calm & Cool. JMO of course.
Also....IMO.....BM had possibly come across many many abandoned mine shafts that were accessible. He would have/could have, already made that discovery in one of his previous hunting trips. Guy, out in the great vast mountains-legit hunting of course- stumbles upon a previous mine access/shaft. Hmmm.

Number 5. Hmm. What could it possibly refer to(?) Only LE and BM would know of course. I think CM brought it up just to shake up BM. It apparently hasn't been a confirmed piece of evidence. Yet. Who knows.

Did he get "lucky". I suspect luck more than his being a very good perp at hiding a body. Selling the PP property didn't seem to phase him. Nor the other newly acquired property. So, IMO, she is in neither of those places.

Of course, I believe, it was critical to mis-direct. Look here. Not there. "It wasn't ME".

This is all just my own opinion. After months now of following along on the case. How it develops. Reading here. And there. Waiting to see what the outcome will eventually be. So many perps, make a major mistake in the end. Something.....critical...they were not aware of or had even considered.

Just my own speculation.

MOO JMO IMO
“5”... could mean the last time he said he saw her alive.. or the number of coolers the morphews had at one point..
 
  • #290
Alright, one more theory. My opinion only.

Let’s say the last outbound communication was made by SM’s phone at 2:30pm on Saturday.

BM powers the phone down and takes it with him to dispose of while he is going to Salida.

BM realizes that no one will be able to reach SM via call or text, and then realizes the main way someone might try to contact her is via Facebook or FB messenger. BM needs to monitor her profile to make sure there aren’t any concerned friends that post or message her. So he logs into SM’s Facebook profile on his phone so he can keep tabs on things and make sure no one is suspicious. He needs to monitor this for another 15 hours so that he can pull off his alibi.

But, BM logging into SM’s Facebook profile on his phone, means the app collects all of his contacts and sends out the friend requests that occurred from SM around midnight on Saturday.

The phone data is going to be highly compelling from a timeline perspective.
i agree w most of this, but i don’t think he was dumb enough to log into her account from his phone. moo He prob used a laptop or home computer. It will also be interesting to learn now active she was on social media. Some people only log in once and awhile. Others are on it nonstop.
 
  • #291
Not only that but LE can tell every single device and location your account is logged in from . They would of known 100% her acct was accessed from his phone.
Facebook won't send out friend requests from contacts, they will send suggestions. If their was requests sent that was physically done.
LE can also subpoena Facebook and learn how frequently or infrequently she would send friend requests (i’m guessing it was rare). they’ll also know if it was common for her to be on FB late at night. pure circumstantial speculation and impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt tho imo
 
  • #292
I know it's been a long time since anyone brought up the woodchipper comments but I was looking at the fire camp site and holy moly, they have the mother of all wood chippers.
Colorado Firecamp, About Us

Disposing of a victim in a Tub Mill would leave a massive amount of forensic evidence that could not be cleaned up without disassembling the entire machine and cleaning every single part down to the screws with bleach. My guess is that it would take around two weeks at minimum of full time work.
 
  • #293
Not only that but LE can tell every single device and location your account is logged in from . They would of known 100% her acct was accessed from his phone.
Facebook won't send out friend requests from contacts, they will send suggestions. If their was requests sent that was physically done.
LE can also subpoena Facebook and learn how frequently or infrequently she would send friend requests (i’m guessing it was rare). they’ll also know if it was common for her to be on FB late at night. pure circumstantial speculation and impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt tho imo
What does PYMK and ICYMI mean?

At one point, I had wondered if the phone was thrown away enroute to the Sunday job site. imo.
People You May Know
In Case You Missed It
:)
 
  • #294
LE can also subpoena Facebook and learn how frequently or infrequently she would send friend requests (i’m guessing it was rare). they’ll also know if it was common for her to be on FB late at night. pure circumstantial speculation and impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt tho imo
Right but if you add that to the other weird circumstances they may be able to use it !!

moo
 
  • #295
Not only that but LE can tell every single device and location your account is logged in from . They would of known 100% her acct was accessed from his phone.
Facebook won't send out friend requests from contacts, they will send suggestions. If their was requests sent that was physically done.
LE can also subpoena Facebook and learn how frequently or infrequently she would send friend requests (i’m guessing it was rare). they’ll also know if it was common for her to be on FB late at night. pure circumstantial speculation and impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt tho imo
What does PYMK and ICYMI mean?

At one point, I had wondered if the phone was thrown away enroute to the Sunday job site. imo.
People You May Know
In Case You Missed It
:)
Right but if you add that to the other weird circumstances they may be able to use it !!

moo
absolutely agree!
 
  • #296
@StarrDetective

This is what always made me feel like maybe he walked in on her chatting with her friend about divorce ... and he killed her . Then he sent the requests to try to make it look like when she disappeared she left willingly .

moo
 
  • #297

All communication stopped which I'm assuming Suzanne was communicating with her friend at that time. What happened after that is anyone's guess but I think she was dead shortly after 2:30. Then the cleanup began. BM was seen in Salida Saturday afternoon. Was he buying cleanup supplies like bleach? Don't forget there was a shortage of bleach due to the pandemic, as well as paper goods. Could he have bought chlorine at the pool/hot tub store OldCop mentioned?

FWIW chlorine isn't suitable for hot tubs. Bromine is which smells a lot like chlorine.

Could Suzanne have drowned in the hot tub?

JMO
 
  • #298
All communication stopped which I'm assuming Suzanne was communicating with her friend at that time. What happened after that is anyone's guess but I think she was dead shortly after 2:30. Then the cleanup began. BM was seen in Salida Saturday afternoon. Was he buying cleanup supplies like bleach? Don't forget there was a shortage of bleach due to the pandemic, as well as paper goods. Could he have bought chlorine at the pool/hot tub store OldCop mentioned?

FWIW chlorine isn't suitable for hot tubs. Bromine is which smells a lot like chlorine.

Could Suzanne have drowned in the hot tub?

JMO
No but she could of been drowned by someone in the hot tub ?
Moo
 
  • #299
The video can be linked, as CM is an approved source here. @Sillybilly did make this note about the specific topic that is off limits for discussion:
"Although CM has been approved as a source at WS, without knowing his source and what he is basing this allegation on, we're removing the info about BM having a girlfriend as rumor. If not true, it's just too inflammatory."
CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #53

The part about the chain of custody issue is CM giving his opinion on it, based on his experience, and that starts at around the 30:45 mark

I really have not watched many of his videos , but I just watched this one and I agree with every single thing he says . I think he is absolutely spot on .

Domestic abuse is tricky . You don’t see it coming until you are trapped in the relationship . She was so young and had 2 children with him, she wanted to believe it would get better or he would change . They don’t , they get worse . There is a certain level of fear you start to feel after prolonged emotional abuse ... something changes with the fear and you start to worry that they could harm you. That’s a real , real fear . You see the change in their eyes, it’s like nothing is there .

moo
 
  • #300
What does PYMK and ICYMI mean?

At one point, I had wondered if the phone was thrown away enroute to the Sunday job site. imo.
PYMK = people you may know (on Facebook)
ICYMI = in case you missed it.
 
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