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Pi Thoughts said:
Australia- There’s only one way to slow the rapid spread of COVID-19: avoiding each other. Now the virus is “loose” in Sydney, it is past time to take drastic, necessary action.

Shut schools. Cancel events. Slow people down. Now. Our medical workers ability to save us depends on it. A fortnight ago, Italy was in a very similar position to our own.

It quickly shut down flights to and from China. It isolated patients. It tracked down their contacts. Its government was loud in its confidence it had the virus contained. Meanwhile, COVID-19 was already quietly spreading out of control.

It had a trick: it takes an average of five days before a victim begins to cough and feel symptoms. But, during much of those five days, that victim is infecting others.
Five days before virus ‘tidal wave’ hits
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SBM/BBM

“It quickly shut down flights to and from China. It isolated patients. It tracked down their contacts. Its government was loud in its confidence it had the virus contained. Meanwhile, COVID-19 was already quietly spreading out of control.”

“It had a trick: it takes an average of five days before a victim begins to cough and feel symptoms. But, during much of those five days, that victim is infecting others.”

And ^^^THIS ^^^
is why reliable testing without limitations is
**SO IMPORTANT**
 
oviedo said:
We just received this:
Mastering Coronavirus &
Covid-19 Legal Issues CLE
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I guess it was just a matter of time
IMO
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This is what I absolutely love about this site! We share stuff with each other that none of us would have known. You sharing this, and a previous post just now about construction on building out hospitals is invaluable information for us all to consider where the states and federal government are at and even down to the local level. Thank you everybody for sharing and posting stuff that is in your area for all of us to learn.
 
Vice President Mike Pence said another 4 million tests would be available by the end of the week, on top of at least a million tests already in place across the country.

US Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said his department didn't know how many people have been tested.

"We don't know exactly how many, because hundreds of thousands of our tests have gone out to private labs and hospitals that currently do not report in" to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Azar said.

Azar said the government is now working with the CDC to create a reporting system to help "keep track of how many we're testing."

Meanwhile, officials with the CDC are also continuing to face scrutiny over slow testing procedures which critics say contributed to a delayed response to the virus.

US coronavirus cases reach 1,000 as millions more testing kits are on the way to labs across the country - CNN
 
Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has been testifying to the House oversight committee, about the expected timeline on the development of a vaccine:

“In the next four weeks or so, we will go into a phase one clinical trial to determine if one of the candidates - and there are more than one candidate, there are probably at least 10 or so that our various stages of development. The one that we’ve been talking about is one that involves a platform called Messenger RNA, but it really serves as a prototype for other types of vaccines that are simultaneously being developed, getting it into phase one in a matter of months is the quickest that anyone has ever done literally in the history of vaccinology.”

“ However, the process of developing a vaccine is one that is not that quick. So we go into phase one. It will take about three months to determine if it’s safe. That’ll bring us three or four months down the pike and then you go into an important phase, called phase two, to determine if it works. Since this is a vaccine. You don’t want to give it to normal healthy people with the possibility that it will hurt them...So the phase of determining if it works is critical. That will take at least another eight months or so. So when you’ve heard me say, we would not have a vaccine that would even be ready to start to deploy for a year to a year and a half. That is the timeframe. Now, anyone who thinks they’re going to go more quickly than that, I believe, we’ll be cutting corners, that would be detrimental.”

Fauci said therapeutic drugs could become available significantly faster, because the risk calculation is different - they will be tested and eventually used on people who are already ill.

“There are a couple of candidates that are now already in clinical trial. Some of them in China, and some of them right here in the United States, particularly in some of the trials that we’ve done in some of our clinical centers, including the University of Nebraska. It is likely that we will know if they work in the next several months. I’m hoping that we do get a positive signal. If we do that, we may - and I underline may so that it doesn’t get misinterpreted - have therapy that we could use, but that needs to be proven first.”

Coronavirus live updates: Merkel warns 70% of Germans at risk if infection not slowed, as cases rise in UK, US and Iran
 
I live in a rural county in the boonies. 2 cases last night in our tiny ER; 1 basically confirmed, 1 other waiting on? Glad I just bought TP. This town sells out of essentials every time we have a hurricane watch 1000 miles away.
 
Chili Fries said:
I've seen zinc recommended a few times in this thread...

DO NOT TAKE ZINC WILLY NILLY!!

I can't stress this enough

Zinc can be helpful in small doses but you can easily overdo it, which depresses your immune system and makes it more likely that you will be infected.

15mg once if you think you are getting sick is ok, it's what my doc recommends, but if you want to take more, don't take it everyday and not for more than a week.
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I am one of the people who wrote about having zinc lozenges, but I would only take them as you described, above. I am keeping them on hand in case, and would never take more than you described or for longer than you describe. Thank you for posting this information.
 
JerseyGirl said:
Department of Health and Social Care

✔@DHSCgovuk

UPDATE on coronavirus (#COVID19) testing in the UK:

As of 9am 11 March 2020, a total of 27,476 people have been tested:
27,020 negative
456 positive
6 patients who tested positive for coronavirus have sadly died.

The digital dashboard will be updated later today.

Coronavirus live updates: eighth Briton dies, second UK MP self-isolates and Iran cases hit new record
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And this is exactly what the United States can't do:

Give an accurate dashboard of testing and results that is only 3 lines long.....

Shame, shame, shame
 
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UK woman's death in Indonesia:

"Indonesian health ministry official Achmad Yurianto said [the 53 year old woman] had been suffering from four other preexisting conditions including diabetes and hypertension."

Again diabetes and hypertension (+ 2 other undisclosed conditions)

Do you have any idea how many people over 50 have diabetes , hypertension, or both?

Adult onset diabetes is also highly correlated with the incidence of hypertension. And adult onset diabetes is also highly correlated with poor diet and lack of exercise.
 
US government make it easier for airlines to cancel flights

The Federal Aviation Administration announced today that due the coronavirus-related flight cancellations, it will waive a requirement that the industry says could otherwise lead to airlines running empty flights.

The requirement normally requires that airlines use 80% of their assigned runway slots at several busy airports — including LaGuardia and John F. Kennedy in New York and Reagan National in Washington, DC.

There are four other airports — Chicago O'Hare, Newark (NJ) Liberty, Los Angeles International and San Francisco — at which the agency has a formal schedule review and approval process. The FAA said it will give credit to airlines for flights that were canceled at those airports due to the virus.

Most major US airlines have moved to cancel a significant portion of their flights due to the outbreak, raising the possibility that they will not meet the targets. Without the waive the airlines risked losing their slot another airline.

The agency said the waiver is good through the end of May.

Live updates: Coronavirus cases pass 115,000 worldwide - CNN
 
✔@julianborger

Robert Redfield, CDC Director, said there are no plans to set up drive through #COVID19 test centres because "We're tryinjg to maintain the relationship between individuals and their healthcare providers."

CDC director Redfield said the Center had distributed 75,000 #COVID19 tests to the public health system so far
 
JerseyGirl said:
Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has been testifying to the House oversight committee, about the expected timeline on the development of a vaccine:

“In the next four weeks or so, we will go into a phase one clinical trial to determine if one of the candidates - and there are more than one candidate, there are probably at least 10 or so that our various stages of development. The one that we’ve been talking about is one that involves a platform called Messenger RNA, but it really serves as a prototype for other types of vaccines that are simultaneously being developed, getting it into phase one in a matter of months is the quickest that anyone has ever done literally in the history of vaccinology.”

“ However, the process of developing a vaccine is one that is not that quick. So we go into phase one. It will take about three months to determine if it’s safe. That’ll bring us three or four months down the pike and then you go into an important phase, called phase two, to determine if it works. Since this is a vaccine. You don’t want to give it to normal healthy people with the possibility that it will hurt them...So the phase of determining if it works is critical. That will take at least another eight months or so. So when you’ve heard me say, we would not have a vaccine that would even be ready to start to deploy for a year to a year and a half. That is the timeframe. Now, anyone who thinks they’re going to go more quickly than that, I believe, we’ll be cutting corners, that would be detrimental.”

Fauci said therapeutic drugs could become available significantly faster, because the risk calculation is different - they will be tested and eventually used on people who are already ill.

“There are a couple of candidates that are now already in clinical trial. Some of them in China, and some of them right here in the United States, particularly in some of the trials that we’ve done in some of our clinical centers, including the University of Nebraska. It is likely that we will know if they work in the next several months. I’m hoping that we do get a positive signal. If we do that, we may - and I underline may so that it doesn’t get misinterpreted - have therapy that we could use, but that needs to be proven first.”

Coronavirus live updates: Merkel warns 70% of Germans at risk if infection not slowed, as cases rise in UK, US and Iran
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Dr. Anthony Faucci:

Despite groundbreaking advances in vaccine formulation technology, we are still 11 + months away from a vaccine that could be distributed with safety
 
afitzy said:
NYT Has an interactive map of Corona Cases:

U.S. Coronavirus Cases Surpass 1,000: Full Map

Quotes from article:

The New York Times is engaged in a comprehensive effort to track details about every confirmed case in the United States, collecting information from federal, state and local officials around the clock. The numbers in this article are being updated several times a day based on the latest information our journalists are gathering from around the country.

The number of patients treated in the United States remains a small fraction of those with the virus overseas, where thousands of people have died and tens of thousands have been infected.

See our maps tracking the coronavirus outbreak around the world.

The West Coast has been hit hard.
Health officials in California, Oregon and Washington State have seen the virus turning up in people who have not traveled overseas and have warned that the virus was spreading within the local community. Officials in some places have urged residents, especially older people, to avoid large gatherings.

Officials in Santa Clara County, Calif., where dozens have become ill with the virus and one person has died, announced a ban on large gatherings. And leaders in the nursing home industry on Tuesday called on nursing homes and assisted living centers to curtail most social visits and even take steps to keep some employees away.

“This is a critical moment in the growing outbreak,” Dr. Sara Cody, Santa Clara County’s health officer, said in announcing the ban. “The strong measures we are taking today are designed to slow the spread of disease.”

STATE CASES DEATHS
Washington 279 24
California 178 3
New York 173 0
Massachusetts 92 0
Texas 30 0
Florida 23 2
Georgia 22 0
Illinois 19 0
Colorado 17 0
Nebraska 16 0
Combined, California and Washington account for more than a third of the nation’s coronavirus cases. Those patients include a mix of people who contracted the illness locally, traveled in China or were passengers on two cruise ships where outbreaks emerged.

HOW VIRUS WAS CONTRACTED CASES
Cluster connected to a community in New Rochelle, N.Y. 113
Nursing facility in Kirkland, Wash. 55
Personal contact in U.S. 51
Diamond Princess cruise ship 43
Travel in Egypt 37
Travel overseas 36
Travel in Italy 30
Business conference in Boston 29
Grand Princess cruise in March 21
Grand Princess cruise in February 20
But many U.S. patients — and more every day — have been diagnosed without any history of overseas travel, signaling that the illness was circulating within the United States and that people were being exposed in schools, offices and medical facilities.

New York: 173 cases have been identified.
Since announcing their first case of coronavirus on March 1, health officials in New York State have raced to contain the virus’s spread as the number of confirmed diagnoses has surged past 100.

A large percentage of those cases have been traced to a man from Westchester County who attended public gatherings before knowing he had the coronavirus.

In addition to Westchester County, patients were being treated in several New York City boroughs, on Long Island and in Rockland, Saratoga and Ulster Counties.
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Good morning. :)

Thank you for this article, afitzy.

So from above:

“A large percentage of those cases have been traced to a man from Westchester County who attended public gatherings before knowing he had the coronavirus.”

So, this sounds like possibly clear asymptomatic transmission, since he didn’t know he was sick, which of course we know can happen. Are we sure he didn’t have symptoms, or just didn’t know the symptoms were CV specifically?

So, in a public gathering setting, if you are not coughing and sneezing, how exactly is transmission occurring? Breathing? Surely he didn’t touch everyone in the public gathering with dirty hands...sneezing perhaps? Or maybe he was coughing but didn’t think anything of it? I’m just curious about this because Dr. Mike said a few weeks, per the data out of China, that while asymtomatic transmission occurs, there is nothing to indicate that this is the driving force behind the epidemic.

It’s like how @gitana1 asked about Italy, how are so many people are getting infected...

Additionally from above:

“But many U.S. patients — and more every day — have been diagnosed without any history of overseas travel, signaling that the illness was circulating within the United States and that people were being exposed in schools, offices and medical facilities.”
 
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JerseyGirl said:
Stocks tumble as coronavirus fears continue

US stocks opened in the red this morning, retracing yesterday's sharp gains, as worries about the coronavirus outbreak once again took over.

Here's how things look:
  • The Dow opened 700 points, or 2.9%, lower.
  • The S&P 500 kicked off 2.6% lower.
  • The Nasdaq Composite fell 2.5%.
Live updates: Coronavirus cases pass 115,000 worldwide - CNN
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Ive been following the Stock market news because its been historic the numbers lately. This whole "Virus Crisis" has been historic and its been stunning with all the unexpected fallout and unexpected impacts.

I dont think a lot of people foresaw the affect to the Stock market coming until China started to lockdown some of their main cities and factories. Once that started happening the world's stock markets started to get unsettled and its continuing.

I read one stock analyst talk about it and they mentioned an interesting point. They said something along these lines.
We usually can guarantee the stock market to go back up eventually, and it most likely will be fine in the long run, but what makes this Virus impact on the stock market so unique this time is we do not yet know the full impacts of the Virus. So until the full effects of the Virus are fully known how it will ultimately effect the people of the world, then this time, the stocks may not stabilize until those effects are known and proven.
 
JerseyGirl said:
Police break up crowd of University of Dayton students after housing closure news

Police at the University of Dayton in Ohio fired "pepper balls" and cleared a street early Wednesday after a disorderly crowd or around 1,000 gathered after learning that the college would be shutting down student housing over fears of the novel coronavirus.

University officials said in a statement that one person was injured by a thrown bottle. University and Dayton police moved to clear the street around 2:15 a.m.

The university's student-run newspaper, the Flyer News, reported that the crowds gathered in reaction to news that the university housing would close Wednesday.

The university announced Tuesday that it would suspend in-person classes and ask students to return home and do online learning. "Students will remain off campus for at least two weeks following spring break," the university said.
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At our university, for students who live in residence halls we are giving them the option of staying in their dorms or leaving, but classes will be online, regardless. We have to do this, because we have students who are international students and have no place to go, students who have aged out of foster homes and are on there own now, and other situations.

Staff are working on figuring out how to deal with dining and other services. The health center, counseling services, libraries, and other service units will remain open as well.
 
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