HongKongPhooey
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Pubs are def all shut and have been for maybe a month.Regarding "Spo0ns" (as it is called by many in UK newspaper comments). Wetherspoons. Where to begin.
Wetherspoons owner vows to keep pubs open during CoVid Crisis (after the government said to shut them down):
Wetherspoon vows to keep pubs open during coronavirus crisis | Metro News
Wetherspoons owner becomes an expert on pandemics:
JD Wetherspoon boss says closing UK pubs will not stop coronavirus
Then of course, people rallied around him and others with the same views- and are defying social distancing in general as you can see in this picture:
Clap for carers: UK pays tribute to NHS and key workers
There are many other pictures. Every major bridge in London had unmasked people on them, clapping at whatever time it was supposed to be. Organized by Tim Martin (Spoons owner) and his friends, IMO.
Meanwhile, UK is already at nearly 16,o00 dead (mainly in England, hardly any Scotland). And it is way earlier in the process than Italy.
UK is at the bottom of Europe's list for testing:
https://i.redd.it/0ynuq02lott41.png
You can see where UK stands in terms of its relationship to its first cases here:
https://i.redd.it/3ug523gpskt41.png
Many pub owners followed Spoons and stayed open. I hear that some are still open. This would help account for why 16,000 people have died since March 16. Germany, which had its first reported deaths on March 20, sits at only 45,000. Its population density is greater than UK's and they have about the same number of people.
UK is only 50% bigger than California, population wise and has similar pattern of high and low density areas. Almost 16,000 dead in one month, California reported its first deaths a bit earlier - and we sit at just over 1000.
Then, Tim Martin (Wetherspoons owner) did shut down when it got back and abandoned his employees.
JD Wetherspoon denies ‘abandoning’ staff in coronavirus crisis
Then he walked that back and may or may not be paying some of them. As people build CoVid boycott lists, Wetherspoons is at the top of many Brit's list:
Flop of the Month: Wetherspoons boss Tim Martin sends wrong messages
What Tim and his Spoons companions don't realize, is that they are just prolonging the shutdown (just like the people in Huntington Beach - where, interestingly, people are also resisting getting the homeless into monitored and structured settings). Just like those people in Michigan. They want what they want, but they're only pushing back the date for reopening:
I think the advice/suggestion about closing bars and restaurants was around the 15 March (I remember because I got ill with the virus on 20 March after days of crisis talks with colleagues, who have also had it). The ruling came a few days later I think and there was no room for interpretation. My workplace closed on 24 March.
I saw one news story about one family run pub which was busted for having apparent lock ins, but otherwise I havent seen anything in the news here about pubs breaching orders tbh.