Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #82

[Sundog]

Being overweight now potential coronavirus risk factor, CDC says

Of course we knew this, but it is good for the CDC to put out the data.

71% of Americans are overweight or obese. No wonder the U.S. has such high mortality rates compared to other countries.

 

[Knitty]

“But we want to do a rally in Florida, probably in Florida on Saturday night, might come back and do one in Pennsylvania, on the following night.”

Asked by Hannity whether he had had a test since testing positive last week, Trump said: “Well what we’re doing is, probably the test will be tomorrow. The actual test, because there’s no reason to test all the time.”

In the rambling interview, during which he spoke with a hoarse voice, at times pausing to cough, the president ....

Donald Trump plans Florida rally on Saturday amid Covid test secrecy

Perhaps the president will attend one or all 7 of these rallies in Florida this weekend:

"Vice President Mike Pence is holding two events in Florida on Saturday.

Trump Jr. also is holding four events across Florida on Sunday during a “Fighters Against Socialism” bus tour."

Donald Trump Jr. hosts rally in hotel in Panama City Beach Florida

Sigh. I'm in Florida. The panhandle, where we are trying to clean up after a hurricane. They love us here. Please don't come.

 

[CSIDreamer]

*steps 5 feet back in shock*

From your link....

In these days and age, that an event would be called FIGHTERS AGAINST SOCIALISM?

I am going to have to do my own drill down... I cannot fathom this is being a stance these days.

Not everyone supports socialism in the US. JMO

 

[CSIDreamer]

Being overweight now potential coronavirus risk factor, CDC says

Of course we knew this, but it is good for the CDC to put out the data.

71% of Americans are overweight or obese. No wonder the U.S. has such high mortality rates compared to other countries.

I wonder if treadmills and exercise equipment are in short supply lately. I'll look quickly, brb.

Kettlebells, kayaks and the coronavirus

 

[Knitty]

*steps 5 feet back in shock*

From your link....

In these days and age, that an event would be called FIGHTERS AGAINST SOCIALISM?

I am going to have to do my own drill down... I cannot fathom this is being a stance these days.

Some people don't understand what socialism is. And people fear what they don't understand.

 

[squareandrabbet]

I wonder if treadmills and exercise equipment are in short supply lately. I'll look quickly, brb.

Kettlebells, kayaks and the coronavirus

I remember reading in the news that Peloton at minimum had a huge sales bump.

 

[Sundog]

Some people don't understand what socialism is. And people fear what they don't understand.

People who have escaped from socialist countries have a lot to teach us, if only we would listen.

 

[Sundog]

I wonder if treadmills and exercise equipment are in short supply lately. I'll look quickly, brb.

Kettlebells, kayaks and the coronavirus

Drove by a house last week where someone had left a treadmill at the end of their driveway with a sign "FREE." Guess it wasn't working out for them.

 

[GRT]

I've been saying all along this "focused protection" is worth looking at.

Over 6,000 scientists sign "anti-lockdown" petition saying it's causing "irreparable damage"

The petition offers a number of examples of how to protect vulnerable people, such as recommending that nursing homes use staff with acquired immunity and delivering groceries and other essential goods to those who are retired.

That article makes really good sense to me. Protect those who are at high risk and send everyone else back out to eat/work/shop. I'm encouraged to see so many health experts and scientists agree with it.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Drove by a house last week where someone had left a treadmill at the end of their driveway with a sign "FREE." Guess it wasn't working out for them.

I need to get on my exercise bike again. You know 2 pounds becomes 4 becomes 8 it's easier to deal with 2 pounds lol.

 

[GRT]

How are they going to protect where the vulnerable live with the non vulnerable?
Or multi generational homes?
So if you’re younger (under 30? 40?)
healthy (no health issues whatsoever)
and don’t have older family members that you interact with on a regular basis?
Not all elderly are in LTC.
Some are in private homes cared by a rotating group of family due to cost, hospice care, etc. It would be great if there was a plan to protect them.

This is the case with my mother and she was thinking of entering a nursing home until the virus came along. Now, only my sister and I take care of her, and both of us work from home. We do all her shopping, cleaning, etc. The grandkids are not allowed to visit her but they call and chat with her on the phone often. To ensure she gets some "out and about time," my sister and I pack a picnic lunch every other Saturday and drive to a nearby town where we can all sit outdoors and eat. It's hard on her but she makes the best of it. I think every family has to come up with a plan that suits them.

 

[Knitty]

People who have escaped from socialist countries have a lot to teach us, if only we would listen.

You are right. But health care for everybody isn't socialism.

 

[CSIDreamer]

This is the case with my mother and she was thinking of entering a nursing home until the virus came along. Now, only my sister and I take care of her, and both of us work from home. We do all her shopping, cleaning, etc. The grandkids are not allowed to visit her but they call and chat with her on the phone often. To ensure she gets some "out and about time," my sister and I pack a picnic lunch every other Saturday and drive to a nearby town where we can all sit outdoors and eat. It's hard on her but she makes the best of it. I think every family has to come up with a plan that suits them.

The picnic meals have been amazing. We're rediscovering the joys of a meal outside with fresh air, breezes, birds singing, etc. We won't talk about the insects lol. It's also fabulous for the grands. They can run laps around the picnic table and holler and who cares! Jmo

 

[CSIDreamer]

You are right. But health care for everybody isn't socialism.

Who here said it was? I missed that. Jmo

 

[CharlestonGal]

I guess the issue with this is how do we know who has acquired immunity?
Do people who have had covid and are now recovered - assuming that they have immunity - be hired to deliver essentials to the vulnerable?
And does this mean that the vulnerable stay locked down indefinitely?
And how long will immunity last? I have read that this could be an annual thing. Immunity only for a while.

Society is in a very difficult place with this issue. IMO

It is worrisome that we are seeing some people quickly contract SARS-CoV2 again after having already been infected. This is not exactly a surprise given that immunity to the other human coronaviruses is very short-lived. There is no real data at this point indicating SARS-CoV2 will be any different.

With the data (or lack of) we have right now, it cannot be assumed or said that one is "immune" to SARS-CoV2 simply because they have had it.

IMO, funding for SARS-CoV should not have been abandoned and that outbreak should have been a warning sign that human coronaviruses are not all harmless little bugs that just cause the common cold. I haven't really seen any research into why humans do not develop lasting immunity to the common cold causing CoVs. No money in studying the common cold, I guess.

I guess my point is, it would not be wise or accurate to assume people are immune once exposed. All indications are that immunity is short-lived with this family of viruses. It was disheartening to hear the president refer to himself as "immune" because that will surely lead some people to assume they are immune once they've had the virus.

Edited to fix quote and add IMO.

 

[Lilibet]

I remember reading in the news that Peloton at minimum had a huge sales bump.

Our daughter bought a Peloton but had to wait about a month for it. She’s been working from home since March and is fighting weight gain and losing strength. Hope it helps.

 

[10ofRods]

You are right. But health care for everybody isn't socialism.

I think it's classified as a part of a socialist ideal. There's nothing wrong with society caring strongly about its own members and attempting to provide certain commodities to everyone. Like water. And food. And healthcare.

The opposite is competitive capitalism, unfettered. Anyone who has read about 19th century American and early 20th century America surely can't want that either (child labor/slavery, people locked into factories, slavery, etc., etc)

 

[ilovewings]

Some people don't understand what socialism is. And people fear what they don't understand.

Exactly: people use these words interchangably with no understanding of their meaning: socialism, communism and facism. Anyone can look up the definition of these words for themselves.

 

[ilovewings]

It is worrisome that we are seeing some people quickly contract SARS-CoV2 again after having already been infected. This is not exactly a surprise given that immunity to the other human coronaviruses is very short-lived. There is no real data at this point indicating SARS-CoV2 will be any different.

With the data (or lack of) we have right now, it cannot be assumed or said that one is "immune" to SARS-CoV2 simply because they have had it.

IMO, funding for SARS-CoV should not have been abandoned and that outbreak should have been a warning sign that human coronaviruses are not all harmless little bugs that just cause the common cold. I haven't really seen any research into why humans do not develop lasting immunity to the common cold causing CoVs. No money in studying the common cold, I guess.

I guess my point is, it would not be wise or accurate to assume people are immune once exposed. All indications are that immunity is short-lived with this family of viruses. It was disheartening to hear the president refer to himself as "immune" because that will surely lead some people to assume they are immune once they've had the virus.

Edited to fix quote and add IMO.

He also said he was "cured"-- there is no cure for Covid

 

[10ofRods]

I think that calling things "lockdowns" (especially when they are not) is counter-productive.

I've starting saying "mitigation measures" instead. I try to convey to my students and others that a virus doesn't just go away. It's out there. It's going to be out there for a long, long time.

We can reduce (mitigate) its effects, in relation to how threatening it is. Known vectors of community spread can be addressed through contact tracing (if only we would have contact tracing, but too many Americans feel almost paranoid about having any contact with the government or its employees). Private contact tracing is a thing, and is enabling some people in certain workforce sectors to be much safer.

Since we can't use the least harmful-to-the-economy mitigation measures, we're going after community vectors with a blindfold on.