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I don't really suspect Schlessinger or his wife actually. Nor do I suspect Anton Bennett. They do become part of the suspect pool through association to Annie Le until their alibis are able to clear them. I cannot fathom anyone in the position of such esteemed careers being involved in this murder. There is simply too much on the line to throw it all away over a student for any reason.

I think it will boil down to a lower level student or someone in the maintenance department. This doesn't strike me as murderer who put a great deal of planning or intelligence into this crime. Sounds more like luck and less than stellar police work that her body wasn't found for a few days and the bloody clothing remained hidden giving them a head start on covering their tracks. Even so the perp left an obvious trail and the pieces should be falling into place quickly.

If the response had been different to this crime, they would probably already have a perp in custody. I don't buy this standard protocol bs as the way they went about working this one and the reason for the delays. If that is by the book...they need to throw the book away and start over.
 
UPDATED: Body thought to be missing Yale graduate student Annie Le found stuffed inside wall at college lab
Updated Monday, September 14th 2009, 1:09 AM
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On what should have been Annie Le's wedding night, cops on Sunday believed they found the Yale grad student's body stuffed into a basement wall of her lab building.

State police made the heartbreaking discovery inside 10 Amistad St., the five-story building where Le was last seen on Tuesday morning.

The grisly find came at almost the exact moment Le expected to walk down the aisle with fiancé Jonathan Widawsky in a plush ceremony on Long Island.

"Our hearts go out to the family of Annie Le," said Yale President Richard Levin.

New Haven Police Assistant Chief Peter Reichard said cops found "a large amount" of physical evidence and that the case is being treated as a homicide.

The body was found in an area that houses utility cables that run between floors, police said.

Levin met with Le's family, Widawsky and his family on Sunday and pledged the university's full resources to solve the crime.

Widawsky is not a suspect and is assisting with the investigation, police said.

A police source said cops had questioned a Yale student about Le's disappearance and he had failed a polygraph test.

Reichard refused to answer questions about the other student.

The California-bred daughter of Vietnamese immigrants was poised to marry Widawsky, 24, in an outdoor ceremony in Syosset, L.I., Sunday. Some 160 guests were expected to attend.

"I feel so badly for Jonathan," said Cantor Sandra Sherry of Temple Beth El in Huntington, L.I., who would have led the wedding service. "This really makes a mark on your whole life."

The North Ritz Club in Syosset was empty and dark Sunday. Widawsky, a physics graduate student at Columbia, started dating Le when the two were freshmen at the University of Rochester.

The couple had planned to fly to Greece for their honeymoon later this week.

"It was a lovely day . . . and now it's just sad," said Lucille Mayer, a neighbor and family friend of the Widawskys. "It's not only horrible for Annie's life being gone, but for Jonathan and his life being changed forever," she said.

The gruesome discovery plunged an already weary campus into mourning and fear.

Students received an e-mail from college President Levin titled "Tragic News."

"It shows that Yale is no different then any other place in this country," said engineering student Ken Hargrove, 26. "This idea that despite all the crime around New Haven, Yale was somehow immune was burst in a heartbeat."


Officers and others are on the scene at the Yale Medical Building at 10 Amistad in New Haven where Annie Le was last seen on Tuesday.
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Rest In Peace Annie!
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Annie Le pictured with her fiance Jonathan Widawsky. They were to marry Sunday, September 13.
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Article:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/200..._student_annie_le_stuffed_inside_a_wall_.html
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OFFICIAL YALE UNIVERSITY MESSAGES
To: All Yale Faculty, Students & Staff
From: Richard C. Levin
Summary: Tragic News
Date: 13-SEP-2009 09:15:00 PM Message ID: 45276
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To the Yale community:

It is my tragic duty to report that the body of a female was found in the basement of the Amistad Building late this afternoon. The identity of the woman has not yet been established. An identification and autopsy will be undertaken by the Connecticut Office of the Chief Medical Examiner.

Our hearts go out to Annie Le’s family, fiancé and friends, who must suffer the additional ordeal of waiting for the body to be identified. I have met again with her family and conveyed to them the deeply felt support of the Yale community.

Law enforcement officials remain on the scene; this is an active investigation, and we hope it is resolved quickly. The University has again pledged its full resources and cooperation to assist all the authorities in their work. I will update you as soon as there is more information.

Richard C. Levin
President


Article:
https://light.its.yale.edu/messages/univmsgs/detail.asp?Msg=45276
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FEMALE BODY FOUND AT 10 AMISTAD ST.; POLICE 'ASSUME' IT IS ANNIE LE MED ’13
Published Sunday, September 13, 2009
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Investigators have found the body of a female inside a wall in the basement of 10 Amistad St., the building where Annie Le MED ’13 was last seen, authorities said Sunday evening.

At a press conference at New Haven Police Department headquarters, NHPD Assistant Chief Peter Reichard said the remains were found shortly after 5 p.m. on Sunday, adding that he could not confirm whether the remains were Le's. Still, he said, authorities are now classifying the case as a homicide investigation.

"She hasn't been identified, but we're assuming that it is [Le] at this time," Reichard said.

In a campuswide e-mail titled "Tragic News," University President Richard Levin said an autopsy to identify the body will be performed by the state Office of the Chief Medical Examiner.

The news comes a day after officials said they seized bloody clothes from a ceiling at 10 Amistad St., where Le was last seen. A source within the Yale Police Department said the clothes are not what Le was wearing when she entered that facility Tuesday, adding that the blood on the material could be either human blood or animal blood, since many animal experiments are conducted in the research facility.

The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation, said officials are currently analyzing the blood to determine its origins.


Four Yale graduate students, all of whom declined to give their names, left daisies and roses at the entrance of Amistad Park on Sunday night after the authorities announced a body had been found in 10 Amistad St.
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Police set up a one-block perimeter around 10 Amistad St. late Sunday night. Human remains were discovered inside the laboratory building around 5 p.m. Sunday.
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Article:
http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/university-news/2009/09/13/remains-found-10-amistad-street/
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UPDATE: Human remains believed to be Annie Le found
Published: Sunday, September 13, 2009
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Human remains believed to be Annie Le were found Sunday in the Amistad Street building where the Yale grad student was last seen Tuesday, authorities said.

Tests are being performed on the remains, which were found inside a wall, authorities said late Sunday

Police are now treating the case as a homicide. The remains were found at about 5 p.m.

New Haven Assistant Police Chief Peter Reichard said "our sympathies" go out to Le's family, whom police officials spoke to eariler Sunday.

"We assume it is Annie Le," Reichard said.

Employees of John’s Refuse were preparing to bring Dumpsters to the CRRA location in Hartford Sunday night, something they don’t normally do, owner Andrew Bozzuto said. Typically, the trash business picks up garbage from different Yale locations each day to bring to the New Haven transfer station on Middletown Avenue, and Bozzuto said he was not sure of the exact schedule.

But Sunday afternoon, Yale officials asked the business to bring two Dumpsters from a Church Street South location that is "in proximity to a location for evidence," Bozzuto said.

By 7 p.m., Yale officials had not yet given the go-ahead for John’s Refuse employees to bring the large Dumpsters to Hartford and be escorted by police on the highway. But the sanitation workers were on-call and waiting to go, Bozzuto said.

"We’ve been working with them (police) all week on these kinds of things. We want to be a part of the solution," he said.


Article:
http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2009/09/14/news/new_haven/doc4aad8e5604e7d951608873.txt
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UPDATED: Human Remains Found In Wall Of Yale Lab
Remains Tentatively ID'd As Missing Yale Grad Student
POSTED: 7:53 pm EDT September 13, 2009
UPDATED: 12:16 am EDT September 14, 2009
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Human remains, tentatively identified as belonging to missing graduate student Annie Le, were found inside a wall in a Yale University laboratory, police said.

The remains were discovered by members of Connecticut State Police at 10 Amistad St. just after 5 p.m. Sunday, the day Le was scheduled to be married.

“She hasn’t been positively identified at this time, however we’re assuming that it is her at this time,” New Haven Assistant Police Chief Peter Reichard said.

Police said the investigation into Le’s disappearance has moved from being a missing person’s case to a homicide investigation. Reichard said the New Haven Police Department has assumed the lead role in the homicide investigation.

“Detectives and investigators right now have a large amount of physical evidence at the scene that we’re going through to determine if it’s linked to this case or not,” Reichard said.

Le received her undergraduate degree from the University of Rochester in New York and majored in cell and developmental biology with a minor in medical anthropology. She conducted a summer project at the National Institutes of Health on bone tissue engineering using mouse mesenchymal stem cells, according to a biography posted on the NIH Web site. While at the University of Rochester, she conducted research involving parasitic wasps.

She is originally from California, and graduated from Union Mine High School in 2003, where she was named "Best of the Best," and "Most Likely To Be The Next Einstein."


Slideshow: Remains In Wall Assumed To Be That Of Grad Student
http://www.wfsb.com/slideshow/news/20838206/detail.html

Slideshow: Wedding Canceled Amid Search For Yale Student
http://www.wfsb.com/slideshow/news/20871672/detail.html

UNCUT: Police Say Human Remains Found In Yale Lab
http://www.wfsb.com/video/20894652/index.html

Video: UNCUT: Authorities Give Update On Search For Grad Student
http://www.wfsb.com/video/20877824/index.html

Video: UNCUT: Police Say Remains Found In Yale Lab
http://www.wfsb.com/video/20894652/index.html

Video: FBI, University, Local Police Search For Student
http://www.wfsb.com/video/20842634/index.html

Statement: Yale President Richard Levin
http://www.wfsb.com/news/20894397/detail.html

Article:
http://www.wfsb.com/news/20893384/detail.html
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Police: Body believed to be Le found in building
Remains have not been positively identified in what is now a homicide case
updated 9:57 p.m. ET, Sun., Sept . 13, 2009
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Police in Connecticut on Sunday said they found what they believe is the body of a Yale University graduate student and bride-to-be hidden inside the wall of a university building where she was last seen five days before.

New Haven Assistant Police Chief Peter Reichard said officials presumed the body was that of doctoral student Annie Le, although they had not yet positively identified it. Le has been the focus of a massive police search since Tuesday.

Le, 24, of Placerville, Calif., was to be married Sunday in Syosset, N.Y., on Long Island's north shore. New Haven police said they have contacted her family and have assumed control of the investigation, which is now being treated as a homicide.

State police found the body at around 5 p.m. Sunday in an area of the building that houses utility cables that run between floors.


A Connecticut State Police major crime squad vehicle arrives at the Yale medical complex where missing graduate student Annie Le was last seen Sept. 13, 2009, in New Haven, Conn.
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Article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32810822/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
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UPDATED: Body, likely Le, found in building
Body discovered in basement wall
Updated: Monday, 14 Sep 2009, 12:11 AM EDT
Published : Sunday, 13 Sep 2009, 8:51 PM EDT
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At a Sunday night news conference, police announced the discovery of the body and said New Haven Police would be taking over the case as a homicide investigation.

New Haven Assistant Chief Peter Reichard said the remains have not been positively identified, but they assume it to be that of Le.

"Detectives and investigators have a lot of evidence regarding this case," Reichard said. "Due to it being a homicide we will not be speaking anymore about the evidence, where it was found or what it is."

The remains were discovered around 5:00 p.m.

Le's family has been notified of the discovery, Reichard said.

The announcement about the discovery of a body follows two other developments in the case earlier Sunday.

The FBI, state police and canine units spent the day sifting through debris at a Hartford trash facility in connection with Le's disappearance.

Also, published reports indicated bloody clothing found at 10 Amistad St. were not the clothes Le was wearing when she disappeared.


Article:
http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/new_haven_cty/news_wtnh_new_haven_le_disappearance_2009091301118
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UPDATED: Police news conference on body found
Updated: Sunday, 13 Sep 2009, 11:21 PM EDT
Published : Sunday, 13 Sep 2009, 11:21 PM EDT
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The following is a police news release issued after the news conference.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Sunday, 13, September 2009

Human Remains Located Within 10 Amistad Street

NEW HAVEN- Shortly after 5 PM this evening, investigators from the Connecticut State Police Western District Major Crime Squad discovered human remains within a wall of the building at 10 Amistad Street. The New Haven Department of Police Service has assumed the role of lead agency in what is now believed to be a homicide investigation. The New Haven Police Department will be working in conjunction with the Yale University Police Department, Connecticut State Police, the FBI and the Office of the New Haven State's Attorney. Investigators from these agencies are currently working together on this extensive crime scene. Law enforcement officials are in close contact with the family of Annie Le, the Yale student reported missing from this location on Tuesday September 8, 2009. We ask that the privacy of the family be respected during this difficult time.

No further information will be released at this time due to the nature of this on-going investigation.

There will be no opportunities for on camera interviews.


Article:
http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/new_ha...ce_news_conference_on_body_found_200909131320
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UPDATED: Body Found is Likely Missing Yale Student
Monday, September 14, 2009
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Police on Sunday said they found what they believe is the body of a Yale University graduate student and bride-to-be hidden inside the wall of a university building where she was last seen five days before.

State police found the body at around 5 p.m. Sunday in an area of the building that houses utility cables that run between floors. The building is in the Ivy League school's medical complex, about a mile from the main campus.

Reichard said police also recovered "a large amount" of physical evidence, but he would not discuss what that included.

Yale President Richard Levin offered support to Le's family and her fiance, Columbia University graduate student Jonathan Widawsky. The couple was to marry Sunday in Syosset, New York, on Long Island's north shore.

Police on Sunday would not say if they have any suspects. They previously have said Widawsky is not a suspect and is assisting with the investigation.


VIDEO: Search for student yields bloody clothes 10:23
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video...//www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549765,00.html

Article:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549765,00.html

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Highly unlikely, but perhaps she found out that a fellow student had been falsifying data for his/her research. The student was afraid that Annie would tell someone and in a panic, killed her.
Murder in a secure facility at Yale University is highly unlikely, but here we are faced with the reality. It isn't out of the question to suspect a motive of someone being found out doing something which would jeopardize the program or the research. The stakes are very high in this arena. Students have spent much money and time to be there. If something were to happen which could end their goals and ultimate careers, would it be worth killing someone? People have killed for much less. Academia stems from great passion among great minds.

To me it seems to be about jealousy and rage for some reason. A passionate crime.
 
So sad and tragic. Hopefully they will find who is responsible very quickly. I can't imagine what her family and fiance are going thru, Sunday was suppose to be a happy day and a day of celebration.
 
I wanted to tell about my experience with an autoclave, since that idea has been tossed around earlier in this thread. I used one, a table top model to sterilize medical instruments years ago. I'd wrap them in towels and tape them shut. Pour distilled water in a place in the bottom, seal up the door and turn it on. It cooks like a pressure cooker, the steam builds up and steam and pressure kill any bacteria (I think). It takes a long time to allow the pressure to reduce before opened. I don't think this was a way her body was handled. I can't imagine what a large one would do to a body. (pressure cooker)

Rip Annie
 
My husband, who has some experience in building construction, says a chase wall would have either a removable panel in it, to access pipes, etc. or would have access from above, through an attic, (where you would drop down to access). I asked what is most likely in a multi-storied building, and he says a removable panel.
 
I'm so sorry to read about the outcome in this case this morning.

Some info on the name "Xiao Hung":

"Xiao" just means little and it's used to make a nickname for anyone (m or f), along with their last name.

For example, my Chinese last name is Long. I am called Xiao Long by teachers, others.

That means that Hung is the person's last name. Whether it is spelled Hong or Hung, it is the same name.

Because of that, there is no way to be sure who Xiao Hung is, as we only have a last name and even that has other possible spellings.

(just for info)
 
I'm so sorry to read about the outcome in this case this morning.

Some info on the name "Xiao Hung":

"Xiao" just means "little" and it's used to make a nickname for anyone (m or f), along with their last name.

For example, my Chinese last name is Long. I am called Xiao Long by teachers, others.

That means that Hung is the person's last name. Whether it is spelled Hong or Hung, it is the same name. Can also be Huang.

Because of that, there is no way to be sure who Xiao Hung is, as we only have a last name and even that has other possible spellings.

(just for info)

oh, p.s. What we call a last name comes first in Chinese, so the person's name is really Hung Something. The "something" is probably two syllables, sort of like a first and middle name.
 
Is his hair styled in a manner that is suppose to signify something? The parts seem so...idk what, like theres meaning to the design.

the design is a greek key - maybe a frat logo? sorry if this was already answered, im trying to catch up!:)
 
I don't really suspect Schlessinger or his wife actually. Nor do I suspect Anton Bennett. They do become part of the suspect pool through association to Annie Le until their alibis are able to clear them. I cannot fathom anyone in the position of such esteemed careers being involved in this murder. There is simply too much on the line to throw it all away over a student for any reason.

I think it will boil down to a lower level student or someone in the maintenance department. This doesn't strike me as murderer who put a great deal of planning or intelligence into this crime. Sounds more like luck and less than stellar police work that her body wasn't found for a few days and the bloody clothing remained hidden giving them a head start on covering their tracks. Even so the perp left an obvious trail and the pieces should be falling into place quickly.

If the response had been different to this crime, they would probably already have a perp in custody. I don't buy this standard protocol bs as the way they went about working this one and the reason for the delays. If that is by the book...they need to throw the book away and start over.

I agree that the murderer could have been someone in maintenance who Annie may have said hello to daily. The fact that her body was found in a wall and clothes were found in the ceiling "speaks" maintenance. The clothes may have been lab clothes he just picked up to clean the blood.

A maintenance worker would have had no problem accessing the building via a security card. And, I'm thinking if the murderer falls into this category that he has a prior record.
 
I know! That was my original question way back when we first saw Schlessinger's story about the email. If she had a private office that she locked her purse in, wouldn't people who were concerned about her absence knock and knock and then have someone come open the door? If she didn't have a private office, (and, really, do grad students at Yale have private offices? ) how could no one have seen her purse?
I just don't get it.

The point I was trying to make in my earlier post is that she did her paid work for Bennett at his lab in Sterling. I don't know that he would have checked out a lab at Amistad where she did her own research.

She probably put the purse in a desk drawer- I suspect she was the first one in that morning and left for Amistad before the others arrived. They thought she had never arrived because they didn't see her. Research labs tend to be casual about start time. Since everyone works on their own projects at their own speed, it's not like everyone clocks in at 9AM.
 
I don't really suspect Schlessinger or his wife actually. Nor do I suspect Anton Bennett. They do become part of the suspect pool through association to Annie Le until their alibis are able to clear them. I cannot fathom anyone in the position of such esteemed careers being involved in this murder. There is simply too much on the line to throw it all away over a student for any reason.

I think it will boil down to a lower level student or someone in the maintenance department. This doesn't strike me as murderer who put a great deal of planning or intelligence into this crime. Sounds more like luck and less than stellar police work that her body wasn't found for a few days and the bloody clothing remained hidden giving them a head start on covering their tracks. Even so the perp left an obvious trail and the pieces should be falling into place quickly.

If the response had been different to this crime, they would probably already have a perp in custody. I don't buy this standard protocol bs as the way they went about working this one and the reason for the delays. If that is by the book...they need to throw the book away and start over.

I believe you are right. If I am correct in my suspicion that she was working in a basement animal facility it would be likely that Dr. Schlessinger had never, or very rarely been in there. If he has animals, his students and technicians would be the ones to work with them. Also- access is restricted- he would have to swipe in, and how would he explain that? Would he really know where to stash a body in a place he was not familiar with? Believe me, department heads are not spending their time in animal rooms.
It is far, far more likely to be someone who worked in that area every day. Animal care, facilities, or maintenance. Even another student or tech who worked there regularly.

I also believe they already know or have a very good idea who did this.

MOO.
 
I believe you are right. If I am correct in my suspicion that she was working in a basement animal facility it would be likely that Dr. Schlessinger had never, or very rarely been in there. If he has animals, his students and technicians would be the ones to work with them. Also- access is restricted- he would have to swipe in, and how would he explain that? Would he really know where to stash a body in a place he was not familiar with? Believe me, department heads are not spending their time in animal rooms.
It is far, far more likely to be someone who worked in that area every day. Animal care, facilities, or maintenance. Even another student or tech who worked there regularly.

I also believe they already know or have a very good idea who did this.

MOO.
As much as I've posted about Schlessinger...I don't think he did it either. I think I am more upset about him, and Yale, because of the sexual harrasment thing and how, as this thing unfolded, I saw how Yale has conducted itself. As great a scientist as he is, I don't think he should be working there. I can only imagine the students that have been victimized but haven't come forward out of fear.
 
NO BOLO. Which means they know who their suspect is. I wouldn't be surprised if we have a quick arrest, perhaps by the end of the day.
 
As much as I've posted about Schlessinger...I don't think he did it either. I think I am more upset about him, and Yale, because of the sexual harrasment thing and how, as this thing unfolded, I saw how Yale has conducted itself. As great a scientist as he is, I don't think he should be working there. I can only imagine the students that have been victimized but haven't come forward out of fear.

Sadly, this sort of thing is not confined to Yale alone.
 
I hope LE has a list of other students who missed a class or classes that day.

IF it's another student, I wonder if anyone from the campus has come forward to LE with knowledge of someone they know who talked about Annie, or said they would like to get to know her better, or wanted to hook up with her kinda' thing.
 
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