CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, deceased/not found, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #64

[lucegirl]

Lord have mercy on the people that have to read the appeal.
MOO

At least it won’t have sound.

 

[kaen]

I think it is interesting that some of the defense witnesses are appearing through subpoena. I can't imagine that any of their former friends want to be associated with FD and MT.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

On a serious note seeing gf today was heartbreaking she showed such strength and class so did the 5 children I am glad the jury got to see that jmoo

Agree, Gloria is inspirational.

I’m sure it’s clear to the Farber family, that Michelle Troconis, is the reason that Jennifer Farber, is dead. (And their father too)

 

[lucegirl]

On a serious note seeing gf today was heartbreaking she showed such strength and class so did the 5 children I am glad the jury got to see that jmoo

Completely agree. I’m not familiar with the full Ferber family tree - but does anyone know what the “succession” plan is, for lack of a better word, when Gloria may not be fully able to be the primary care giver. I’m sure they have it all covered legally as far as guardianship. It’s just so upsetting to even think about - those kids are just babies.

 

[Laughing]

Agree, Gloria is inspirational.

I’m sure it’s clear to the Farber family, that Michelle Troconis, is the reason that Jennifer Farber, is dead.

But imho not clear to The Troconis Collective....

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[afitzy]

Oh, I'd say his legal thing is already not working out. For the defendant.

He managed to emphasize today, with the dinner party query, how pleased FD was with his resolution of divorce. He may as well have toasted, "after tomorrow, JFd will no longer be a problem for me".

And that MT is up to her extensions in it. She didn't mention to her hairdresser friend that the police had been to the house, barely 12 hours prior... that Jennifer was missing? Didn't seem like a detail worth mentioning? Yet she withheld it. Pesky consciousness of guilt.

Ice.

JMO

I'm not there yet but did he bring up that Judge Heller actually had declared a mistrial in the Family Matter shortly before JF murder? Or that he had been cited for contempt for lying about his financial records to the Court? Or, that JF Attorney had just filed a motion to dismiss GAL Atty Meehan and Atty Mike Rose. The GAL was to get the hook for role in not securing the Herman report and Atty Mike Rose iirc was getting the double hook (but not the sanctions he imo deserved) for assisting FD in the preparation of false financial records that enraged Judge Heller but also for his role in not securing the discredited Herman Report.

Judge Heller iirc simply let Atty Mike Rose 'melt away' and out of Family Court and end his relationship with FD and didn't sanction or censure him. I always wondered how much FD might have paid any of the miscreants in Family Court to facilitate his delusion with the Herman Report? Did FD pay for GAL Mike Meehans Maserati? IDK, just specualtion based on the chaos of that period.

I truly wish Judge Heller had burned the report rather than sealing it and removing it from Family Court record. I continue to be stunned that Judge R has been hoodwinked in this matter and allowed the circus surrounding this report to continue ad nauseam. Simply don't get it but I guess its above my pay grade. Sad that the State isn't doing anything here to protect the Victims either. Pathetic imo actually.

I'm trying to recall the planet furthest from Earth today and I think its Neptune and that is where I think today Jon Shoenhorn has sadly taken in this trial along with a good power boost from Judge R unfortunately; think Neptune is 2.86 billion miles from Earth.

MOO

 

[citygirl]

I think it is interesting that some of the defense witnesses are appearing through subpoena. I can't imagine that any of their former friends want to be associated with FD and MT.

I was wondering about that. Didn't know if that was SOP. So, it isn't?

 

[lucegirl]

@Megnut

My favorite from today … “And as MT is up to her extensions in it…”

So apropos on the day of the hair dresser testimony.

 

[BUF]

Best part of today’s defense testimony…

“Any part of the discussion that night talk about plans to murder Jennifer the next day?” Manning asked.

“No,” Reich said.

“Any part of that discussion talk about plans to dispose evidence in garbage cans along Albany Avenue?” Manning said.

“No,” he said.

“Any part of that discussion involve plans about using the Toyota Tacoma and cleaning it afterwards?” she asked.

“No,” he said.

“That’s not something you discuss at a dinner party?” she asked.

“No,” he said.

https://www.ctinsider.com/news/article/michelle-troconis-trial-live-updates-day-25-dulos-18679331.php

 

[Cloudydiamond]

Completely agree. I’m not familiar with the full Ferber family tree - but does anyone know what the “succession” plan is, for lack of a better word, when Gloria may not be fully able to be the primary care giver. I’m sure they have it all covered legally as far as guardianship. It’s just so upsetting to even think about - those kids are just babies.

I would think Carrie Luft. Of course just a guess.

 

[afitzy]

Jury instructions will not be a formality here IMO (unfortunately). I’m not sure how this Court handles it - but generally each side submits proposed Jury instructions. They are supposed to be tailored to the elements of the crimes charged. Sometimes the court adds in ones they like about generalities. Each state has model jury instructions in its code, but they are just guidelines. In a more typical case - the model instructions are acceptable to both parties. However, either side may propose whatever it wants. The guidelines don’t always get everything in issue. Again - I don’t know Judge R’s practice - but Jury Instructions are usually just ruled by the Court on the “paper” submitted by the parties in an Order. The Court accepts or denies them. They should not be controversial or include hidden land mines to confuse the jury about the law. Jury instructions aren’t usually “hearing material” like with evidence - but I put nothing past the D here with respect to blowing this up. I’m pretty sure this judge will have zero tolerance for any out of the ordinary instructions - but I would expect more of the same.

As in, “If the Jury finds it credible that Thunderstorms were gathering over 4JC after midnight on the morning of May 24th, the jury should infer an irrefutable presumption that defendant did in fact sleep sideway’s in her daughter’s bed on the opposite side of the side table.” Joking obvs

IDK, Horn today sounded like he had fired up his word processor on the topic of HIS INSTRUCTIONS and was raring to go to town. I decided to go with wine rather than hard liquor for my order as I figured Judge R would intervene if the jury instruction ran amok which I fully expect it will.

I see a lot of red lining in the future and if past is prologue then Judge R will sadly have to mediate.

Do you know if there are standard instructions on Circumstantial Evidence or does that get crafted by the parties?

MOO

 

[sds71]

Completely agree. I’m not familiar with the full Ferber family tree - but does anyone know what the “succession” plan is, for lack of a better word, when Gloria may not be fully able to be the primary care giver. I’m sure they have it all covered legally as far as guardianship. It’s just so upsetting to even think about - those kids are just babies.

Laurel Watts/Christianne Masiello
IMO

 

[afitzy]

Was all that stated by the judge?

Yes, it was me doing the best I could to capture his words on why he was DENYING Defence Motion for Acquittal.

Sorry for being unclear....not a very good court reporter but I thought the info was so helpful that I tried to do it the best that I could but clearly I am not in @Megnut level of skill!

Sorry for any confusion.

MOO

 

[lucegirl]

Are we done with percipient witnesses yet?
Dinner party guests
Opera singer

IDK, Horn today sounded like he had fired up his word processor on the topic of HIS INSTRUCTIONS and was raring to go to town. I decided to go with wine rather than hard liquor for my order as I figured Judge R would intervene if the jury instruction ran amok which I fully expect it will.

I see a lot of red lining in the future and if past is prologue then Judge R will sadly have to mediate.

Do you know if there are standard instructions on Circumstantial Evidence or does that get crafted by the parties?

MOO

I agree - he will turn the generally routine matter of jury instructions into a closing argument combined with a motion to acquit and motion for mistrial and prosecutorial misconduct all in one.

 

[Megnut]

Perhaps LA will inherit a beautiful family of five....

 

[BUF]

Perhaps LA will inherit a beautiful family of five....

No matter what, I am confident that LA will always be a part of that family.

 

[lucegirl]

The circumstantial evidence instruction will not be word-smithed by JH.

Most judges have this one committed to memory and will deliver it in their style.

 

[nodamselindistress]

Isn't it interesting that JS complained bitterly and constantly about the prosecution making the case all about Fotis instead of his client, and then, when he gets the chance to call witnesses the first 3 or 4 witnesses out of the gate are FD friends who tell us about FD and really only knew MT due to her alliance with FD? Hairdresser lady was the ONLY witness who seemed to be a friend to MT alone.

 

[waldojabba]

Glad to remove this, as it’s hearsay On another board, a live trial observer opined that the members of the jury appeared focused, observant (reading the room), and competent; that s/he would feel confident that they’d weigh evidence carefully and come to a reasonable verdict. MOO Hope so.

The day I was in court I saw the same thing and totally concurr - I would be happy to have them as my jury if I were up on charges ( which I never will be just btw)
IMO

 

[Cloudydiamond]

Perhaps LA will inherit a beautiful family of five....

Do you really think so? She's in her prime. I mean I know she loves the children like her own, and imagine she will always be in their lives. I'm just not sure. She's 32 I think, and might want to think about starting her own family. I have always wondered though if this is the plan. She would be set for life no doubt.