Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #28

[afitzy]

Thank you @Morgan10028, please take my Trophy Points - IMO, I finally have the answer to the question that was driving me crazy - how is FD paying the cronies who are his main aiders and abettors. Those aiders and abettors will have their day in court (be found guilty of perjury, conspiracy, collusion), possibly under the same liability as the principal. I'm confident of it now that I see the question asked and answered in black and white in the deposition, which IMO, was not a random question but the result of extensive investigation funded by GF. If the FBI, DOJ were notified by Weinstein, then LE has the evidence already. See film American Hustle, which IMO, is a realistic depiction of a Major Crime Unit bust by the Feds. MOO.

Note: This message is for the cronies who may be reading WS (other readers may skip this part):
Well, cronies, you were about to retire anyways and so this is the final gravy train for you after years of toiling in poverty and being good. This is your due, right? Are the powers that be in CT going to stand in your way while you take criminal proceeds as a fee for services rendered? You've seen your friends hand in their licenses - who cares, the Rules of Professional Conduct are such a burden and the annual bar fees, who needs it? Thank you all for letting me rant here. MOO.

For those that want to track back to read some of the FD 'word salad' in depositions in Family and Civil Court here is the document to read. If you are interested in the situation with the 'Greek Vehicles' I believe you can just skip to marked page 25 of the attached document.

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=17715905

 

[afitzy]

BBM.
He actually said that? I thought this was just speculation by a poster?

@citygirl...vehicle discussion starts of marked page 25 of this document: http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=17715905

 

[Seattle1]

There shouldn’t be any good reason for a man with no money to be shipping cars in from Greece, with all of the attendant costs and potential problems. It must have been really worth it to do so. And it’s interesting to me that the question was even asked of FD in this deposition. Why did they ask about it? They obviously know that there is some significance.

I believe FD asked about the autos in his civil deposition because it's possible he's shipped Corporate assets outside the US (perhaps now returning said assets). Also challenging his allegations of having no funds -- while importing regular vehicles by airfreight at $$$$$.

In her suit against FD for non-payment of $2M loan, GF has been challenging FD's business practices and use of business funds-- and even subpoenaed MT for deposition of Fore Group's finances and operations.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

Replying to myself to say that the above transcript is not the one I was looking....back to the drawing (searching) table...

I think you were looking for the "Greek Vehicle" discussion - its 3 pages starting on marked pg 25:
http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=17715905

 

[Southernsnooper]

There shouldn’t be any good reason for a man with no money to be shipping cars in from Greece, with all of the attendant costs and potential problems. It must have been really worth it to do so. And it’s interesting to me that the question was even asked of FD in this deposition. Why did they ask about it? They obviously know that there is some significance.

I agree. I think they know soooooo much more and that’s what’s taking so long.

I bet the FBI is uncovering ALL of his illegal activities and untangling his criminal web.

The next AWs (plural as I think they’ll be more than one) for him will be perfectly packaged with cellophane and a bow just in time for Christmas! I don’t think it will be disappointing in the least, NP!

Moo

 

[afitzy]

I believe FD asked about the autos in his civil deposition because it's possible he's shipped Corporate assets outside the US (perhaps now returning said assets). Also challenging his allegations of having no funds -- while importing regular vehicles by airfreight at $$$$$.

In her suit against FD for non-payment of $2M loan, GF has been challenging FD's business practices and use of business funds-- and even subpoenaed MT for deposition of Fore Group's finances and operations.

MOO

Reading through the Civil Court documents and the parts of the FD deposition that we have seen (just a tiny fraction of the total) I have to say I give Atty. Weinstein total credit for trying to put the puzzle together.

FD and FORE are interchangeable for purposes of tracking the money IMO. FORE didn't have credit cards so personal credit cards were used and reimbursed and so tracking what is happening gets complicated. It is baffling to me that FD had 5 figure credit card bills during a period when not much was going on with construction. It also seems odd to run an ongoing construction business using credit cards as its not clear FORE had credit anyplace for materials. It also appears that the subcontractors purchased materials and then were reimbursed by FORE. Its an odd business model and certainly not typical or scalable IMO.

I did read something interesting in this latest read of the civil court depositions. We've had much debate here as to whether the Quickbooks that were due in Family Court nearly 2 years ago and in Civil Court in 2018 exist. While I know FD is an avowed liar, he did say in a deposition that he is the ONLY person who inputs information into Quickbooks. An accountant was also deposed and explained that he simply 'complied' the financial statements of FORE and never reviewed or audited the books and records.

FD and MT went to Greece in 2018 alleged to meet with an 'investor' named Yannis Toutziarides. I am quite curious how many 'friend mortgages' this person has provided to FD/FORE beyond the Sturbridge property.

For some comic relief, check out the Greek version of the famous "WHO'S ON FIRST" comedy sketch. In this case it relates to the question about how FD legal bills are being paid and FD responds, "I don't know" and the spelling of the Greek Attorney in New York who works for the Family "Greek Benefactor".

Comedy starts on page 38 with the spelling of the New York Greek lawyer whose name FD claims not to know but kinda knows enough to know how to spell it but Atty. Weinstein tries hard to get the spelling and its simply not easy and I'm not even sure its correct because I cannot find an atty with the name of the person given by FD in the 5 boroughs of NYC!

My guess is Atty. Weinstein would have had better luck asking FD to pull out his phone and say, "Buddy, who do you call when you need to pay Atty Pattis"! I also bet Atty. P is well acquainted with Mr. Money Bags NY Greek Lawyer.

My guess is the Greek lawyer whose name nobody knows how to spell is 1 on FD speed dial! Here is the transcript for a good laugh IMO (discussion goes on beyond the below clip but they never get the name right so far as I can tell!):



MOO

 

[Southernsnooper]

Hey HC, we’d love to see some investigative journalism regarding FD’s importing of cars from Greece!

moo

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Just thinking about FD (and his legal representation) still not complying with court orders to supply his last 3 years of financial information and it being allowed to go on as long as it has with no repercussions, and the CT courts continuing to allow it to happen.

IIRC, it has been at least 2 years that FD has not filed income taxes. Then why doesn't the IRS get involved in this situation, which would be then at the federal level of our government? He would then be forced to file income taxes, face stiff penalties, added interest and all those things that go along with it. When they (IRS) audit you, you are forced to produce the documents, receipts, bank statements, etc. that are requested of you. And I know it's believed by some people that IRS does not really get involved much in these situations. However, I know they do as I had a family member that has recently went through this process, and the IRS had NO mercy, and I mean none, and it was over a LOT less money (of approximately $100,000 income over a 3 year period) and simply not filing taxes for the past few years. And you know, the saying that says you'd give the shirt off your back to help someone. Well....the IRS will TAKE the shirt off your back to see that they get their money, plus penalties, interests, federal leins against property, etc. And from what I understand, in some cases you could even face being charged with IRS fraud which could result in prison time. With the bottom line being, you are then FORCED to comply versus being ordered to supply financial information and ordered to do so for several years and still have not complied, as is the case with FD/FORE Group.

JMO, MOO

What you mentioned above is probably exactly why he has not filed. They cannot take action against him until he files and lies on the filing.

 

[Jmoose]

^^sbm

I think it's possible that the vehicles he returned to US are the property of the Fore Group Corporation-- which GF has been challenging FD's use of its assets in court.


^^sbm/bbm

Since 2001 (18 years ago), it would be very difficult if not impossible for FD to smuggle any of the above by airfreight (i.e., inside vehicle).

Reviewing Bills of Lading, and inspections are really down to a science today. While it may be easier to load contraband at the point of origin - it will certainly be confiscated in the US port of entry.

IF they find it, and they might not. The question is, who would risk it? I think FD would-he is outrageous in the stuff he tries (and almost always gets away with). It would not surprise me one bit if he shipped cars at a cost that might exceed the value of the vehicles, so he could bring in some contraband that he is trying to hide either from the authorities, or GF’s legal team.

 

[afitzy]

I believe FD asked about the autos in his civil deposition because it's possible he's shipped Corporate assets outside the US (perhaps now returning said assets). Also challenging his allegations of having no funds -- while importing regular vehicles by airfreight at $$$$$.

In her suit against FD for non-payment of $2M loan, GF has been challenging FD's business practices and use of business funds-- and even subpoenaed MT for deposition of Fore Group's finances and operations.

MOO

Yes, an ongoing issue has been veil piercing as FD/FORE appear as one in the same and funds flow freely on an ongoing basis. FORE was piggy bank for FD and it appears what Atty. Weinstein has found is that FORE funds were used routinely to cover FD personal expenses. It looks to be one big and untidy financial mess and FD/MT thought that all their travel was 'business related' even when no investors were ever interviewed etc.
MOO

 

[Seattle1]

FD and FORE are interchangeable for purposes of tracking the money IMO. FORE didn't have credit cards so personal credit cards were used and reimbursed and so tracking what is happening gets complicated. It is baffling to me that FD had 5 figure credit card bills during a period when not much was going on with construction.

^^SBM

Well that's very interesting how this "show room builder" and corporation had no credit.

Probably a plus for GF and attorney RF to pierce the corporate veil -- disregarding any corporate protection FD relying on.

FD won't simply be able to bankrupt Fore Group, and walk away if he's deemed personally responsible for the non recognized corporation's debts.

Any personal judgments will follow him all the way to prison!

 

[Alathea]

BBM.
This is way too far afield for me.
She was 50 years old.
Caring for 5 children as a single parent.
Her plate was full.
She had a check up!
And we only know this through FD and NP!
None of this should be in the public domain nor does it have anything to do with her disappearance/murder.
Defense prattle.
IMO, one should pay NO attention.

Agreed. It's a distraction. The only reason it matters is that FD likely stole her medical paperwork on the day of the murder - from right inside her house. If they try to bring it up again, GF's team should be laser focused on how he obtained it in the first place.

 

[afitzy]

^^sbm

I think it's possible that the vehicles he returned to US are the property of the Fore Group Corporation-- which GF has been challenging FD's use of its assets in court.


^^sbm/bbm

Since 2001 (18 years ago), it would be very difficult if not impossible for FD to smuggle any of the above by airfreight (i.e., inside vehicle).

Reviewing Bills of Lading, and inspections are really down to a science today. While it may be easier to load contraband at the point of origin - it will certainly be confiscated in the US port of entry.

I agree the inspection process is better than it used to be but high value items secreted in a vehicle for personal use might just slip through IMO unless LE were involved and looking for something specific.

Range Rover is a large vehicle and there are many places where something can be easily hidden and not found IMO. I'm not sure why these vehicles were brought back to the US but your theory of them belonging to FORE does make sense.

If the vehicles belonged to FORE, there were no reasons for them being in Greece and it simply proves Atty. Weinstein's point that FD/FORE are interchangeable and that ongoing use of corporate funds for personal reasons was absolutely typical business practice for FD.

MOO

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Rats!

Can't make it, but I still have dreams about showing up with my mobile digger and going to town on the front and back yards and patio (and demolishing those front steps which FO was working so hard to 'clean').

NCPD might have some issues with my 'plans' though so its probably good think I cannot attend!

MOO

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After you're done with digging there, can you take your equipment across the country to the home of the suspect of the Lueck case? Many that are following that case want the backyard patio that was recently done dug up. Thank you in advance of your digging!

 

[Alathea]

What you mentioned above is probably exactly why he has not filed. They cannot take action against him until he files and lies on the filing.

Actually, he can be arrested simply for not filing.

Failure to File a Return: Failing to file a return can land you in jail for one year, for each year you didn’t file.

Can You Go to Jail for Not Paying Taxes? - FindLaw.

 

[Jmoose]

I believe FD asked about the autos in his civil deposition because it's possible he's shipped Corporate assets outside the US (perhaps now returning said assets). Also challenging his allegations of having no funds -- while importing regular vehicles by airfreight at $$$$$.

In her suit against FD for non-payment of $2M loan, GF has been challenging FD's business practices and use of business funds-- and even subpoenaed MT for deposition of Fore Group's finances and operations.

MOO

Hmm-he said he brought them here from Greece (overnight, at a remarkable cost!). But I wonder if anybody official has seen these vehicles.

 

[afitzy]

MT photo from Court appearance this week - posting this for all the rosary bead and ring watchers!:

 

[Fizzlemisty]

Frankly I think Atty. P resides in a realm that is simply 'beyond prayers'!

If Atty. P does therapy 4 days a week as he professes to, then he has no doubt worked out his patterns and most likely understands them. What I am baffled by is why he keeps repeating them? He seems to have a constitutional inability to exert any level of self control and most of the time behaves like a toddler that simply needs a 'time out'! Most of the time he simply comes off as a 'grumpy old white dude' who just happens to hate women. The only solace I take from having Atty. P around is that he will be guaranteed to turn off a good portion of the jury population.

We have seen Atty. P be rude, blustering, confused, combative and downright cranky. He places no priority on a professional demeanour and IMO I believe him to have low professional standards as well as evidenced by the recent hearing about the 'forged affidavit' in the Jones case, the FD stolen psych report in Family Court that he leaked to the press and the most recent Greek interviews done by FD. IMO simply place the professional bar low and you will be guaranteed to see Atty. P simply go lower and do so in a mean and cynical manner. Its a pattern we have seen over and over in the victim shame and blame game in this sad case of JD. Its a shame the CT Bar chooses to not hold Atty. P to any standard of professional conduct. Perhaps the recent Jones hearing might shift this tide. IDK.

The recent Greek interviews represented a now low for FD and Pattisville and I believe they were simply a cynical play to expore JD medical records and continue to debase and discredit her in advance of trial. I also believe they are doing this because its the only thing they have to work with as there is no FD alternative theory/alibi. My guess that next up will be MT and whoever happens to arrive on LE radar screen for this sad case.

MOO

Personality disorders are chronic and maladaptive and don’t usually respond to therapy, even 4 times a week.

 

[Seattle1]

Hmm-he said he brought them here from Greece (overnight, at a remarkable cost!). But I wonder if anybody official has seen these vehicles.

Not that it necessarily means anything to FD but his deposition was given under oath!

 

[Alathea]

Reading through the Civil Court documents and the parts of the FD deposition that we have seen (just a tiny fraction of the total) I have to say I give Atty. Weinstein total credit for trying to put the puzzle together.

FD and FORE are interchangeable for purposes of tracking the money IMO. FORE didn't have credit cards so personal credit cards were used and reimbursed and so tracking what is happening gets complicated. It is baffling to me that FD had 5 figure credit card bills during a period when not much was going on with construction. It also seems odd to run an ongoing construction business using credit cards as its not clear FORE had credit anyplace for materials. It also appears that the subcontractors purchased materials and then were reimbursed by FORE. Its an odd business model and certainly not typical or scalable IMO.

I did read something interesting in this latest read of the civil court depositions. We've had much debate here as to whether the Quickbooks that were due in Family Court nearly 2 years ago and in Civil Court in 2018 exist. While I know FD is an avowed liar, he did say in a deposition that he is the ONLY person who inputs information into Quickbooks. An accountant was also deposed and explained that he simply 'complied' the financial statements of FORE and never reviewed or audited the books and records.

FD and MT went to Greece in 2018 alleged to meet with an 'investor' named Yannis Toutziarides. I am quite curious how many 'friend mortgages' this person has provided to FD/FORE beyond the Sturbridge property.

For some comic relief, check out the Greek version of the famous "WHO'S ON FIRST" comedy sketch. In this case it relates to the question about how FD legal bills are being paid and FD responds, "I don't know" and the spelling of the Greek Attorney in New York who works for the Family "Greek Benefactor".

Comedy starts on page 38 with the spelling of the New York Greek lawyer whose name FD claims not to know but kinda knows enough to know how to spell it but Atty. Weinstein tries hard to get the spelling and its simply not easy and I'm not even sure its correct because I cannot find an atty with the name of the person given by FD in the 5 boroughs of NYC!

My guess is Atty. Weinstein would have had better luck asking FD to pull out his phone and say, "Buddy, who do you call when you need to pay Atty Pattis"! I also bet Atty. P is well acquainted with Mr. Money Bags NY Greek Lawyer.

My guess is the Greek lawyer whose name nobody knows how to spell is 1 on FD speed dial! Here is the transcript for a good laugh IMO (discussion goes on beyond the below clip but they never get the name right so far as I can tell!):

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MOO

This whole thing is amazing - hilarious, absurd, but most of all shocking that he wasn't found in contempt of some sort (can you be in contempt in a deposition? I dunno, but he's blatantly lying.)

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=17715905