Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #28

[Jmoose]

Anyone wonder if LE was trying to bluff to MT and FD to get MT to crack by going on that recent search of the reservoirs on the same day as the second AW? I’m concerned that they just don’t have enough at this point and that it hinges on MT coming clean. I hope I’m wrong.

I am afraid you’re right

 

[Jmoose]

All I can think of at this late juncture..

I think they put JD’s body in their fireplace, added her ashes to the compost pile , never to be seen again .
Why else the smug faces ..

* Buried JD - Dogs would have found

* Threw in body of water - some body part would have risen to the top ala Scott Peterson case by now .

*Threw body parts in dumpster to be incinerated - No time, could be seen .

*Stuck her in wet concrete -Not enough time to mix concrete , have it dry completely before LE came knocking . I’ll Assume LE was thorough and checked the concrete surround on house .

I think the bloody rags and sponges came from FD cleaning up the Tacoma and JD’s garage Not from her final resting place .

MY Opinion ONLY !!!!

It would have taken days, with a significant and constant fire burning, to turn Jennifer to ashes. If she was incinerated, it wasn’t at one of the FORE houses, IMO.

 

[Tink56]

Did they change it from the 10th?

This email is to inform you that MICHELLE TROCONIS, with docket number FST CR190167364T, has an upcoming court event.

A/An Plea Hearing has been scheduled for 10/04/2019. This will take place in Stamford-Norwalk JD Courthouse located at the following address: 123 Hoyt Street, Stamford, CT.

Will need to go back to the article or video, but it seems to me MT's hearing is a week after FD's.

From the Case Lookup site:
TROCONIS MICHELLE 1974 Stamford JD Awaiting Plea 10/10/2019 10:00 AM FST -CR19-0167364-T
TROCONIS MICHELLE C 1974 Stamford JD Pre-Trial 10/10/2019 10:00 AM FST -CR19-0148553-T
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NP has a meeting before the bar grievance committee on October 3, 2019 and FD's hearing on October 4, 2019....I think.

 

[Jmoose]

@davealtimari

Once again the Hartford Courant is the only media organization challenging the system. Hopefully the Supreme Court will take up the issue even though it pales against the realities of this case. But this gag order is bad business for journalists.

The Hartford Courant has asked the state’s highest court to hear an appeal of the gag order issued by a Superior Court judge in the criminal case against Fotis Dulos, estranged husband of missing New Canaan mother Jennifer Farber Dulos, arguing that it exceeds the court’s authority and amounts to prior restraint of free speech.

The filing on behalf the Courant comes a week after Dulos’ attorney, Norm Pattis, asked the Connecticut Supreme Court to lift a Sept. 12 gag order issued by Stamford Judge
Without question, the gag order impinges on the media’s, including the Courant’s, critical rights to gather information from the sources closest to the proceedings,” wrote the Courant’s attorney William S. Fish Jr.
John F. Blawie, first requested by Stamford/Norwalk State’s Attorney Richard J. Colangelo.



Hartford Courant challenging gag order in criminal case against Fotis Dulos, estranged husband of missing New Canaan mother Jennifer Farber Dulos

Of course, because their ability to disseminate “news” trumps the victim’s right to justice.

 

[Tink56]

Of course, because their ability to disseminate “news” trumps the victim’s right to justice.

Ohhhhhhh....Dave won't be able to have any more heart-to-hearts with Fudge....MOO

 

[Tink56]

Will need to go back to the article or video, but it seems to me MT's hearing is a week after FD's.

From the Case Lookup site:
TROCONIS MICHELLE 1974 Stamford JD Awaiting Plea 10/10/2019 10:00 AM FST -CR19-0167364-T
TROCONIS MICHELLE C 1974 Stamford JD Pre-Trial 10/10/2019 10:00 AM FST -CR19-0148553-T
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NP has a meeting before the bar grievance committee on October 3, 2019 and FD's hearing on October 4, 2019....I think.

Quoting myself...hopeless...but as I reread the posting I noticed that part of MT's hearing is a plea on the second arrest warrant. Maybe the tears reflect her guilt and necessity of entering a plea of guilty?????

MOO...dinner time!

 

[dlharris2712]

I think they put JD’s body in their fireplace, added her ashes to the compost pile, never to be seen again .
I can't even imagine this...so horrible! God, I hope they arrest both of them...and send them to prison...sad. I also can't imagine the despair GF and family are feeling - four months into this. Where is Jennifer??? Ugh!!! moo

 

[citygirl]

Can't help but wonder how Mr. Dulos is spending his days? Is he out biking and jogging? Has he found a new, younger chica to help him through these troubled times?
Would he betray MT?

 

[NWLady]

Me too. On Sat Sep 27, I walked the Waveny jogging trail by Lapham Road, across from the turnout where the red Tacoma was presumed to have parked (near the bridge according to Gray Hughes' analysis of school bus photos) in order to better visualize how evidence could have been transferred from the Suburban to the Tacoma in broad daylight. While I was standing on the trail, looking across Lapham Road, a random jogger happened to jog past a car parked at the turnout, just as I took the attached photo. I wonder if a witness could have jogged the same path on the morning of May 24th, Friday of the Memorial Day weekend. The witness would have been right next to FD's borrowed red truck and/or JD's Suburban as he or she jogged past. Risky to transfer construction bags or rolled up mat/rug while joggers are about without a spotter. A spotter could see down Lapham Road and create a diversion if a witness got too close. MOO.

Thank you for doing this!

 

[DetectiveFoyleWannabe]

All I can think of at this late juncture..

I think they put JD’s body in their fireplace, added her ashes to the compost pile , never to be seen again .
Why else the smug faces ..

* Buried JD - Dogs would have found

* Threw in body of water - some body part would have risen to the top ala Scott Peterson case by now .

*Threw body parts in dumpster to be incinerated - No time, could be seen .

*Stuck her in wet concrete -Not enough time to mix concrete , have it dry completely before LE came knocking . I’ll Assume LE was thorough and checked the concrete surround on house .

I think the bloody rags and sponges came from FD cleaning up the Tacoma and JD’s garage Not from her final resting place .

MY Opinion ONLY !!!!

Not sure if a fireplace could really do the job of a cremation. I could be wrong but those facilities are high powered and extremely high temps. But I do agree that the “burial” plan was made well in advance. I don’t think FD anticipated the crime scene and blood though. This case is killing me. I truly despise these people.

 

[Outforjustice]

It would have taken days, with a significant and constant fire burning, to turn Jennifer to ashes. If she was incinerated, it wasn’t at one of the FORE houses, IMO.

Ok fine ,
You are probably right .

So, hmmm . We know LE has scoured every nook and cranny .

Bonfire:
ala Patrick Frazee - nope neighbors would have called fire dept , complained about smoke .

Dumped in an oil tank:
ala Chris Watts - Nope , no access .

Septic Tank : Ruled out.

Loud clang coming from Sturbridge : mystery

Poison Ivy : I think obtained on FD’s way into JD’s house . He didn’t wear some type of body Coverall , boots or gloves , probably wearing shorts to look like he was out for a run .

Might have a planted a weapon , change of clothes somewhere in side yard after b’day celebration.

Put body in Raptor Then what...

There just doesn’t seem To be that many locations to dispose of a body in such a short timeframe by 1 or 2 amateurs that still remain undetected .

How the heck is he/ they smarter than
all of us .. WTF

Moo

 

[afitzy]

@davealtimari

Once again the Hartford Courant is the only media organization challenging the system. Hopefully the Supreme Court will take up the issue even though it pales against the realities of this case. But this gag order is bad business for journalists.

The Hartford Courant has asked the state’s highest court to hear an appeal of the gag order issued by a Superior Court judge in the criminal case against Fotis Dulos, estranged husband of missing New Canaan mother Jennifer Farber Dulos, arguing that it exceeds the court’s authority and amounts to prior restraint of free speech.

The filing on behalf the Courant comes a week after Dulos’ attorney, Norm Pattis, asked the Connecticut Supreme Court to lift a Sept. 12 gag order issued by Stamford Judge
Without question, the gag order impinges on the media’s, including the Courant’s, critical rights to gather information from the sources closest to the proceedings,” wrote the Courant’s attorney William S. Fish Jr.
John F. Blawie, first requested by Stamford/Norwalk State’s Attorney Richard J. Colangelo.



Hartford Courant challenging gag order in criminal case against Fotis Dulos, estranged husband of missing New Canaan mother Jennifer Farber Dulos

I actually had to read this article twice to understand the substance of the HC argument against the Judge Blawie Gag order.

Then the light bulb went off.

Then I had a huge LAUGH! And then I simply kept on LAUGHING! And I've been laughing about this all afternoon.

Cry me a river for reporters/reposters that either don't have the skill or basic know how to actually do their jobs absent 'quotes' and 'tips' from 'insiders' to the JD Case. What a bunch of unskilled bush league whiners we see at the HC as they are losing the 'ratings game' in the JD and other cases simply due to the lack of skills of their so called 'investigative reporters/reposters'. So, rather than sharpening their game and actually doing some real investigative work they come up with the brilliant idea (possibly suggested by Atty P. over drinks in Hartford) to file an amicus brief.

BIG YAWN.

IMO its all absolutely pathetic and a telling tribute to the sorry state of journalism IMO.

The HC wasn't on point IMO on the Dulos story because IMO it did zero work to actually delve into the story and spend the time reading documents to actually develop a narrative APART from the narrative supplied to them by Atty P. that was simply plunked down in their laps. IMO it was almost total reliance on 'tips' and 'leaks'. Great game if you can get it, but other papers manage to do just fine thank you!

I guess I would be mad too if things were working great in my little work scam as a reporter and I got a couple of tips a week from Atty P. and others and then pounded out an article or two and was able to make it home for a baseball or soccer game too, all without breaking a sweat. LIFE IS SWEET and SO SO EASY! So so much easier to complain to the courts to overturn a 'gag order' than actually do their jobs IMO.

What a bunch of whiney wimps! There is so much information available in the Dulos case that is typically not there in so many other cases happening in CT IMO. The idea that the reporters/reposters at the HC can't figure out a way forward amidst challenges to me at least simply shows them for what we knew them to be!

IMO its all quite sad that this is what 'journalism' has come to, reporters/reposters that cannot do their jobs the old fashioned way by doing research and developing leads and god forbid actually leaving their offices to chase down good ole leads and developing sources and actually doing something/anything other than what is repeated to them 'SOTTO VOCE' by the likes of Atty P. (who still doesn't have a case IMO no matter how many 'tips' he leaks to DA!) .

If we folks here at WS needed any further proof as to exactly 'how' the HC reporters/aka reposters such as Dave Altimari 'get' their scoops then this latest legal move to file an 'amicus brief' to the Appellate Court proves to me how exactly the HC 'reposters' actually do their jobs or IMO NOT!

I'm surprised that the HC got sucked into the 'overturn the gag order train' devised by Atty. P. who IMO is another 'professional - loosely defined at best' that simply doesn't want to do the hard and very real work in court of defending their client. Nope, Atty. P. seems to see himself as a some kind of closeted talk show host wannabe with a compulsive need to simply spew victim shaming untruths and other assorted untruths distributed indiscriminately to the press using an 'exclusive of the day' tactic to the likes DA at the HC and others.

Absolutely pathetic IMO. Only suggestion I have to the HC is work the story of JD going missing and possibly murdered the old fashioned way. The story is there for you if you want to work it. But I'm not so sure you all have the chops to work it unfortunately.

MOO

 

[Jmoose]

Can't help but wonder how Mr. Dulos is spending his days? Is he out biking and jogging? Has he found a new, younger chica to help him through these troubled times?
Would he betray MT?

I have been waiting to hear that he has betrayed her. Of course, he couldn’t let her know, because then, as the woman scorned, she would immediately pick up the phone and tell them everything she hasn’t told them yet. I don’t doubt that he would-but is he being watched too closely to have done so yet? I wonder.

 

[thekirbyfamily]

Of course, because their ability to disseminate “news” trumps the victim’s right to justice.

Because Dave Altimari and the Hartford Courant are in NP's pocket.

 

[Jmoose]

Ok fine ,
You are probably right .

So, hmmm . We know LE has scoured every nook and cranny .

Bonfire:
ala Patrick Frazee - nope neighbors would have called fire dept , complained about smoke .

Dumped in an oil tank:
ala Chris Watts - Nope , no access .

Septic Tank : Ruled out.

Loud clang coming from Sturbridge : mystery

Poison Ivy : I think obtained on FD’s way into JD’s house . He didn’t wear some type of body Coverall , boots or gloves , probably wearing shorts to look like he was out for a run .

Might have a planted a weapon , change of clothes somewhere in side yard after b’day celebration.

Put body in Raptor Then what...

There just doesn’t seem To be that many locations to dispose of a body in such a short timeframe by 1 or 2 amateurs that still remain undetected .

How the heck is he/ they smarter than
all of us .. WTF

Moo

I like your logical thinking, but I really don’t think he has to be smarter than all of us to have hidden her away. He just had to have planned it out better than Scott Peterson. And-I think he planned Jennifer’s death for a long while. He just got stupid by bringing phones on the “Trash Can Odyssey of Stupidity”, and not thinking about all of the cameras everywhere, and unlucky because EE wouldn’t let him keep the red truck. I am certain that FD would have swapped those seats out of his truck without asking him in a heartbeat, and gotten rid of the ones he took out. I mean, who wouldn’t want fancy Porsche seats in their crummy truck, after all (FD thinks)? She could be literally anywhere within a certain radius that wouldn’t have stretched the timeframe. Honestly, I still think she ended up at MIRA, and was incinerated (I’m so sorry to say it!). Those two are diabolical subhumans.

 

[MsBetsy]

How long before the foliage is off the trees and a better ground search could be conducted? Are there hunting seasons in that area?

Most leaves are on the ground by mid November.
Hunting with bow and arrow is allowed now for some small game and I think firearms for Turkey starts around October 5.
Deer Season usually starts around November 20- December 10. That's when I would think the most people are out hunting. Imo

 

[DetectiveFoyleWannabe]

Ok fine ,
You are probably right .

So, hmmm . We know LE has scoured every nook and cranny .

Bonfire:
ala Patrick Frazee - nope neighbors would have called fire dept , complained about smoke .

Dumped in an oil tank:
ala Chris Watts - Nope , no access .

Septic Tank : Ruled out.

Loud clang coming from Sturbridge : mystery

Poison Ivy : I think obtained on FD’s way into JD’s house . He didn’t wear some type of body Coverall , boots or gloves , probably wearing shorts to look like he was out for a run .

Might have a planted a weapon , change of clothes somewhere in side yard after b’day celebration.

Put body in Raptor Then what...

There just doesn’t seem To be that many locations to dispose of a body in such a short timeframe by 1 or 2 amateurs that still remain undetected .

How the heck is he/ they smarter than
all of us .. WTF

Moo

What’s baffling to me is that clearly FD is not as smart as he thinks (for example, taking his phone with him to the Albany Ave excursion etc., going to the detail place, taking money out of an ATM) so how he has been able to hide JD or otherwise get away with this is beyond me.

 

[DetectiveFoyleWannabe]

I have been waiting to hear that he has betrayed her. Of course, he couldn’t let her know, because then, as the woman scorned, she would immediately pick up the phone and tell them everything she hasn’t told them yet. I don’t doubt that he would-but is he being watched too closely to have done so yet? I wonder.

They should set a honey trap

 

[Jmoose]

What’s baffling to me is that clearly FD is not as smart as he thinks (for example, taking his phone with him to the Albany Ave excursion etc., going to the detail place, taking money out of an ATM) so how he has been able to hide JD or otherwise get away with this is beyond me.

Lots of advanced planning, and some dumb luck. And, I really, really think she probably went to MIRA. In at least a few pieces. But maybe not with the rest of the evidence.

Or...
Did he ever send cars back to Greece? Could he possibly sent her to Greece in some sort of container, with cement, on a container ship? Maybe he could have, if there was a Greek friend or relative who assisted him, and went back to Greece immediately after. I know this is real life and not tv, but if anyone here ever watched The Sopranos, you’ll know that for certain tasks, they would fly a couple of guys over from Italy to do the job, then they’d immediately hop back on a plane home. I don’t know how or if that could work, but there are certain things you’d want to keep your hands far away from. Of course, you wouldn’t want to have to clean up the scene, and get rid of the evidence yourself, but the biggest part of the evidence is the body, and she isn’t anywhere around, it seems. I just think FD isn’t as smart as he thinks because they have him on video getting rid of evidence, and some other things which make the body slightly less important to find, investigation-wise. Her body could be farther away if he had that kind of help from somebody who can’t be interrogated. We have discussed this at length, and at the beginning I didn’t think he had any help other than MT, but they haven’t found any sign of her except her blood, so now I am thinking there is some loyal friend or relative who assisted. MOO

 

[pandaknows]

Interesting, Michelle Quit Claimed that property to her sister and mother in 2016.

Now I get why Mama A. ponied up the $500k bond - was the Florida condo anticipated to be used as collateral to bail MT out of high risk financial shell games that began in 2016 or prior? Bet DA Colangelo is partnering with the United State's Attorneys Office DOJ Major Crimes Unit on this one. Funny, a satire about a family of grifters won the 2019 Palme D'Or at Cannes. It's called Parasite. Speaking of which, IMO, FD is going into overdrive to deliver on his barter agreement with NP (and by extension, quid quo pro with DA). No cash offers except from a no name foreign paper. IMO, FD is spending his free time on Craig's List. MOO.