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13. Mr. Dulos intends to seek access to his children in the Juvenile or Probate Court and is prepared for a full evidentiary hearing in support of the same.
Really? Is this a joke? Its almost as if its April Fool's Day in January! What possible evidence exists to support Fd even having a 2 min supervised phone call with his children at this point in time? My guess is NONE! But, this is Pattisville and the 4 ring circus has to be keep in full motion so we will no doubt be treated to some display about how Fd 'loves his children and misses them'.
The other hilarious line of the motion was:
1. Mr. Dulos is the loving father of five children.
Really? What evidence could possibly exist to support such a falsehood being made here by Atty Rochlin?
I know Fd leads a busy life, but I'm a bit baffled by Fd not showing up for the Probate Hearing. If this evidence of a 'loving father of 5 children'? Not sure how that will play in terms of the fact pattern in existence first in Family Court and then in Probate Court? Why give that opportunity a total miss and head right to Juvenile Court? Perhaps Fd was simply too tired that day and chose to sleep in vs driving down to New Canaan? IDK.
It's also hard to take this ongoing tormenting of GF at all seriously given what is known about Fd as a person and as a father. Overall IMO the situation is a farce and the situation enters the land of sheer lunacy too IMO when further charges are eventually brought by the State relating to the JFd disappearance and assumed murder by MT and Fd. I'm not even sure more charges are necessary given the significant risks involved with Fd having any access to the children until the investigation into their mother disappearance and presumed murder is completed. How could Pattisville think otherwise? I fail to understand how Atty Rochlin in particular thinks anything being proposed here by Fd represents a good idea relative to the emotional health of the 5 children? Will the argument be raised that 'even murderers' should have access to their children? Not sure even that argument would fly in CT!
I realize we have seen deficiencies (many) in the CT Court system since this tragic case started, but what Judge will run the risk of any harm (physical and emotional) being inflicted on the 5 Dulos children until there is clarity on the criminal case? If Fd were a worthy father and worthy human being that had a long track record as an involved and loving parent then perhaps a supervised phone call might be arranged. BUT, Fd has no track record as an actively involved or caring parent and instead has a long file in Family Court that shares precisely how much he cares about the emotional well being of his children.
IMO the Family Court files around the entire issue of Fd asking his sons (oldest son in particular) to lie on his behalf regarding MT and her daughter was probably one of the most chilling reads regarding psychological abuse of an already traumatised and near suicidal child that I've read in a long time. I've asked many times here if the Greek Family Grifters have read through the Family Court file to see the psychological damage intentionally inflicted by Fd on his son and how the psychologist involved was so concerned that he recommended referral of the matter to CPS. Per usual on this situation, GAL Meehan dropped the ball and the referral didn't happen but the idea that a situation could be so severe that a referral of this nature was demanded is telling IMO. JFd must have been losing it during this time period too as she was taking care of the other children while watching one of her children going off the rails. I think if I had to point to one thing that Judge Heller and GAL Meehan failed miserably at in the Family Court case (this is a tough ask!) it had to be simply not adequately protecting the emotional health of the children and the oldest son in particular. My only point in bringing this up was that Fd was indifferent to the situation by all accounts and didn't understand the severity of mental health issues as hand.
Does any of this sound like a loving and caring father who should have any access to his children? Nope IMO.
The ongoing attempts of Pattisville and Atty Rochlin to shift the narrative of the Family Court Divorce Action to include the idea that "things were moving in Fd's direction" and "Fd was winning in Family Court" based on the tossed and SEALED psych report is yet another laughable event IMO. Yet, Team Pattisville keeps bringing up the same issue over and over. No doubt they are trying this feeble narrative shift attempt on the Divorce to address the issue of "MOTIVE" in the Criminal Case but the facts to support the narrative shift simply don't exist.
It's telling IMO that even after Atty P. leaked the stolen psych report to the Press that nobody believed that Fd had the upper hand in Family Court. Judge Heller put a nail in this entire attempt by tossing the report and then sealing the disgraced report. BUT, this fact still doesn't stop Pattisville from making statements about Fd 'winning' in Family Court and irresponsible reposters such as Dave Altimari of the Hartford Courant from reporting statements made by Pattisville without independently verifying the information. Not once have I seen Dave Altimari or any reporter for that matter make the qualification around the psych report to say that the information is the OPINION of Pattisville etc. Its reporting opinions as facts which IMO totally discredits Dave Altimari on this case as I believe it is absolutely irresponsible and highly misleading to the public.
The reality is that the Family Court action was NOT moving in a favourable direction for Fd at the time of JFd disappearance and to say otherwise is simply factually untrue. Personally I believe Judge Heller did next to nothing well in her handling of the Family Court (certainly nothing to safeguard the physical safety of JFd) matter BUT I do believe she has the basic analytical skills to summarise the situation of Dulos v. Dulos well and she did it with precision IMO in the order awarding custody to GF.
Fd is no poster child for 'father of the year' and in fact his record in Family Court puts him clearly into the 'monster' category IMO. Then, you toss in the 'dead beat dad' financial non participation in his children's lives with the 'temper tantrum' for 10 months of no visitation because he 'respectfully disagreed with Judge Heller about MT' and there is no logical way any Judge (even one in CT with is particularly low and law standards IMO) would allow Fd anywhere near the children particularly given the ongoing criminal investigation and his at a minimum being seen on CCTV on Albany Ave disposing of bloody items belonging to JFd.
At the time of JFd disappearance Fd had supervised and structured visitation and hadn't been permitted to be alone with his children since the early days of the divorce action starting in 2017. Fd is the same person today as he always has been and the person he has always been has been fully documented in Family Court files IMO.
Getting back to where I started here and the claim by Pattisville that they will present evidence to support their request for Fd to have access to his children. I would really wonder what possible evidentiary materials would be presented by Fd and Pattisville Patsy Atty Rochlin to support any kind of contact for Fd? I'm not even addressing the Greek Family Grifters in this matter as they are simply irrelevant people that live far away and have never been a factor in children's lives IMO based on everything we know. I wonder if pictures of these people were shown to the youngest children whether they would even know who they were? My guess is that if the youngest saw a picture of Fd 'sister' today that they would shake their head and ask, "Is Nana Dulos back"? Entire situation is ridiculous but also painful because it sadly has zero to do with what is best for the children. I'd call it all shameful but I'm not sure shame is a topic understood by Fd and certainly not the Greek Family Grifters.
MOO
***** All of this ^, but especially this:Happy New Year's to ALL Here!
I tried to take a bit of a break for the Holiday's but honestly could not resist one last laugh for the year based on the Atty Rochlin recent motion for Fd getting access to his children:
13. Mr. Dulos intends to seek access to his children in the Juvenile or Probate Court and is prepared for a full evidentiary hearing in support of the same.
Really? Is this a joke? Its almost as if its April Fool's Day in January! What possible evidence exists to support Fd even having a 2 min supervised phone call with his children at this point in time? My guess is NONE! But, this is Pattisville and the 4 ring circus has to be keep in full motion so we will no doubt be treated to some display about how Fd 'loves his children and misses them'.
The other hilarious line of the motion was:
1. Mr. Dulos is the loving father of five children.
Really? What evidence could possibly exist to support such a falsehood being made here by Atty Rochlin?
I know Fd leads a busy life, but I'm a bit baffled by Fd not showing up for the Probate Hearing. If this evidence of a 'loving father of 5 children'? Not sure how that will play in terms of the fact pattern in existence first in Family Court and then in Probate Court? Why give that opportunity a total miss and head right to Juvenile Court? Perhaps Fd was simply too tired that day and chose to sleep in vs driving down to New Canaan? IDK.
It's also hard to take this ongoing tormenting of GF at all seriously given what is known about Fd as a person and as a father. Overall IMO the situation is a farce and the situation enters the land of sheer lunacy too IMO when further charges are eventually brought by the State relating to the JFd disappearance and assumed murder by MT and Fd. I'm not even sure more charges are necessary given the significant risks involved with Fd having any access to the children until the investigation into their mother disappearance and presumed murder is completed. How could Pattisville think otherwise? I fail to understand how Atty Rochlin in particular thinks anything being proposed here by Fd represents a good idea relative to the emotional health of the 5 children? Will the argument be raised that 'even murderers' should have access to their children? Not sure even that argument would fly in CT!
I realize we have seen deficiencies (many) in the CT Court system since this tragic case started, but what Judge will run the risk of any harm (physical and emotional) being inflicted on the 5 Dulos children until there is clarity on the criminal case? If Fd were a worthy father and worthy human being that had a long track record as an involved and loving parent then perhaps a supervised phone call might be arranged. BUT, Fd has no track record as an actively involved or caring parent and instead has a long file in Family Court that shares precisely how much he cares about the emotional well being of his children.
IMO the Family Court files around the entire issue of Fd asking his sons (oldest son in particular) to lie on his behalf regarding MT and her daughter was probably one of the most chilling reads regarding psychological abuse of an already traumatised and near suicidal child that I've read in a long time. I've asked many times here if the Greek Family Grifters have read through the Family Court file to see the psychological damage intentionally inflicted by Fd on his son and how the psychologist involved was so concerned that he recommended referral of the matter to CPS. Per usual on this situation, GAL Meehan dropped the ball and the referral didn't happen but the idea that a situation could be so severe that a referral of this nature was demanded is telling IMO. JFd must have been losing it during this time period too as she was taking care of the other children while watching one of her children going off the rails. I think if I had to point to one thing that Judge Heller and GAL Meehan failed miserably at in the Family Court case (this is a tough ask!) it had to be simply not adequately protecting the emotional health of the children and the oldest son in particular. My only point in bringing this up was that Fd was indifferent to the situation by all accounts and didn't understand the severity of mental health issues as hand.
Does any of this sound like a loving and caring father who should have any access to his children? Nope IMO.
The ongoing attempts of Pattisville and Atty Rochlin to shift the narrative of the Family Court Divorce Action to include the idea that "things were moving in Fd's direction" and "Fd was winning in Family Court" based on the tossed and SEALED psych report is yet another laughable event IMO. Yet, Team Pattisville keeps bringing up the same issue over and over. No doubt they are trying this feeble narrative shift attempt on the Divorce to address the issue of "MOTIVE" in the Criminal Case but the facts to support the narrative shift simply don't exist.
It's telling IMO that even after Atty P. leaked the stolen psych report to the Press that nobody believed that Fd had the upper hand in Family Court. Judge Heller put a nail in this entire attempt by tossing the report and then sealing the disgraced report. BUT, this fact still doesn't stop Pattisville from making statements about Fd 'winning' in Family Court and irresponsible reposters such as Dave Altimari of the Hartford Courant from reporting statements made by Pattisville without independently verifying the information. Not once have I seen Dave Altimari or any reporter for that matter make the qualification around the psych report to say that the information is the OPINION of Pattisville etc. Its reporting opinions as facts which IMO totally discredits Dave Altimari on this case as I believe it is absolutely irresponsible and highly misleading to the public.
The reality is that the Family Court action was NOT moving in a favourable direction for Fd at the time of JFd disappearance and to say otherwise is simply factually untrue. Personally I believe Judge Heller did next to nothing well in her handling of the Family Court (certainly nothing to safeguard the physical safety of JFd) matter BUT I do believe she has the basic analytical skills to summarise the situation of Dulos v. Dulos well and she did it with precision IMO in the order awarding custody to GF.
Fd is no poster child for 'father of the year' and in fact his record in Family Court puts him clearly into the 'monster' category IMO. Then, you toss in the 'dead beat dad' financial non participation in his children's lives with the 'temper tantrum' for 10 months of no visitation because he 'respectfully disagreed with Judge Heller about MT' and there is no logical way any Judge (even one in CT with is particularly low and law standards IMO) would allow Fd anywhere near the children particularly given the ongoing criminal investigation and his at a minimum being seen on CCTV on Albany Ave disposing of bloody items belonging to JFd.
At the time of JFd disappearance Fd had supervised and structured visitation and hadn't been permitted to be alone with his children since the early days of the divorce action starting in 2017. Fd is the same person today as he always has been and the person he has always been has been fully documented in Family Court files IMO.
Getting back to where I started here and the claim by Pattisville that they will present evidence to support their request for Fd to have access to his children. I would really wonder what possible evidentiary materials would be presented by Fd and Pattisville Patsy Atty Rochlin to support any kind of contact for Fd? I'm not even addressing the Greek Family Grifters in this matter as they are simply irrelevant people that live far away and have never been a factor in children's lives IMO based on everything we know. I wonder if pictures of these people were shown to the youngest children whether they would even know who they were? My guess is that if the youngest saw a picture of Fd 'sister' today that they would shake their head and ask, "Is Nana Dulos back"? Entire situation is ridiculous but also painful because it sadly has zero to do with what is best for the children. I'd call it all shameful but I'm not sure shame is a topic understood by Fd and certainly not the Greek Family Grifters.
MOO
"It's also hard to take this ongoing tormenting of GF at all seriously given what is known about Fd as a person and as a father. Overall IMO the situation is a farce and the situation enters the land of sheer lunacy too IMO when further charges are eventually brought by the State relating to the JFd disappearance and assumed murder by MT and Fd. I'm not even sure more charges are necessary given the significant risks involved with Fd having any access to the children until the investigation into their mother disappearance and presumed murder is completed. How could Pattisville think otherwise? I fail to understand how Atty Rochlin in particular thinks anything being proposed here by Fd represents a good idea relative to the emotional health of the 5 children? Will the argument be raised that 'even murderers' should have access to their children? Not sure even that argument would fly in CT!
I realize we have seen deficiencies (many) in the CT Court system since this tragic case started, but what Judge will run the risk of any harm (physical and emotional) being inflicted on the 5 Dulos children until there is clarity on the criminal case? If Fd were a worthy father and worthy human being that had a long track record as an involved and loving parent then perhaps a supervised phone call might be arranged. BUT, Fd has no track record as an actively involved or caring parent and instead has a long file in Family Court that shares precisely how much he cares about the emotional well being of his children."
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Fotis Dulos has never shown concern for the physical, health, educational or financial wellbeing of the children, that much is known.
But he also has outright abused them emotionally - not just with the ongoing court case and attacking their main caregiver and all the stress that entails - but by creating and publicly flaunting a lie that claims that their own mother abandoned them, meanwhile knowing full well what happened to her. There is no more despicable abuse than that.