Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #39

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In that same deposition, did you notice how HOSTILE they were to LA? Especially in regard to the day of... insinuating that she UNSAFELY transported the children in her personal vehicle without room for all five....
FD is CHARGED WITH MURDER, but he's going to be the seatbelt police???? His moral code is UPSIDE DOWN.
Footnote: wasn't one child with a friend anyhow? I thought I read the nanny picked up four of them....

The nanny is a hero, any way you look it! She did what JF would have done, protect those children at all cost.

JMO

I didn't really understand the point of that line of questioning but if it was just to imply that she was irresponsible in some way, that was a stupid move because it's the pot calling the kettle black. Mr. "I let my 11 year old kid drive my Porsche" is hardly one to talk. MOO.
 
Regarding MT's supposed selfie a few have mentioned:

We have had NO confirmation that the supposed selfie MT mentioned to LE exists at all, and - if one exists - we have no confirmation that it was taken when she said it was.

As far as we know right now, it's just another made-up story by MT.

In other words, she has no verified alibi whatsoever for the entire day of 5/24 - unless LE knows something we don't know.
Interesting that MT's selfie survived her big data/pic purge. I wonder how many other times she's been in that Stop & Shop and how many selfie pics she's taken with Marty in the past?

Has this article already been posted?
Supermarket Robot Listed as Alibi in High-Profile Connecticut Murder Case
Nobody's going to judge you if you do actually follow a wide-eyed robot through a supermarket, before stopping it to take a selfie. But it's probably for the best if you don't use that picture as part of your alibi, expecting Marty to prove that you weren't helping your one-time boyfriend murder his wife.

Between trying to establish those two in-person alibis, Troconis went to the Simsbury Stop & Shop, where she says she took photos of herself with Marty the robot. Although Marty is equipped with cameras, they are only for taking still photographs of the floors to help him identify spills; Stop & Shop says that Marty does not record any video of customers.

Full article in link:

Supermarket Robot Listed as Alibi in High-Profile Connecticut Murder Case
 
Interesting that MT's selfie survived her big data/pic purge. I wonder how many other times she's been in that Stop & Shop and how many selfie pics she's taken with Marty in the past?

Has this article already been posted?
Supermarket Robot Listed as Alibi in High-Profile Connecticut Murder Case
Nobody's going to judge you if you do actually follow a wide-eyed robot through a supermarket, before stopping it to take a selfie. But it's probably for the best if you don't use that picture as part of your alibi, expecting Marty to prove that you weren't helping your one-time boyfriend murder his wife.

Between trying to establish those two in-person alibis, Troconis went to the Simsbury Stop & Shop, where she says she took photos of herself with Marty the robot. Although Marty is equipped with cameras, they are only for taking still photographs of the floors to help him identify spills; Stop & Shop says that Marty does not record any video of customers.

Full article in link:

Supermarket Robot Listed as Alibi in High-Profile Connecticut Murder Case

Hmm, interesting. Good find!

But while MT SAYS she took pics, LE did NOT confirm the existence of such pics at all. They didn't say they saw them, nor that they survived her 'data purge'.

The article makes it sound like she went there, but that's only from her words. It's misleading.

We'll see, but I doubt such "selfies" exist as she claims for that day. She has no solid alibi for 5/24 -- still.

"Troconis went to the Simsbury Stop & Shop, where she says she took photos of herself with Marty the robot."
 
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I didn't really understand the point of that line of questioning but if it was just to imply that she was irresponsible in some way, that was a stupid move because it's the pot calling the kettle black. Mr. "I let my 11 year old kid drive my Porsche" is hardly one to talk. MOO.
I think one of the things they were accusing LA of is possibly kidnapping (rule in the Family case was that there was approval needed to take children out of CT - JFd did this on an ongoing basis and it really seemed to steam Fd so he harped on it endlessly and was annoyed that JFd had NY doctors for children and he was desperately afraid she would move the children to NY permanently IMO). Also, the issue of child endangerment with the car seats, heights of children etc. With 4 children to transport to city she might have had to put 1 child in front.

It goes on and on and it was an effort to take a situation where LA was doing the best she could under very difficult circumstances and with limited transportation options as we know the Suburban was gone and she might not have had keys to the Land Rover and find every possible charge that could be made against her in order to frighten her - it was pure intimidation IMO in the hands of amateurs.

They also tried to intimidate her about income, residency and taxes. As I said in my prior post about this messy deposition it was typically thuggish behaviour by Atty BM IMO and it was designed to threaten LA and her boyfriend. If you just think of the image of the schoolyard bully then I think you have the image of Atty BM and Fd here. Fd was mad he wasn't able to access the children for whatever his plan was to abscond with them and steal their trust funds (or whatever wild plan he had in mind!) and so he blames LA for interfering with his plans.

Also Fd wanted IMO to punish LA because she really did outsmart him brilliantly and she also was instrumental in reporting JFd missing quickly. Fd wants to do anything and everything he can to torment and torture LA and I very much hope that LE is taking care of her and her family in this case as revenge is what Fd seems to fixate on always.

MOO
 
I think one of the things they were accusing LA of is possibly kidnapping (rule in the Family case was that there was approval needed to take children out of CT - JFd did this on an ongoing basis and it really seemed to steam Fd so he harped on it endlessly and was annoyed that JFd had NY doctors for children and he was desperately afraid she would move the children to NY permanently IMO). Also, the issue of child endangerment with the car seats, heights of children etc. With 4 children to transport to city she might have had to put 1 child in front.

It goes on and on and it was an effort to take a situation where LA was doing the best she could under very difficult circumstances and with limited transportation options as we know the Suburban was gone and she might not have had keys to the Land Rover and find every possible charge that could be made against her in order to frighten her - it was pure intimidation IMO in the hands of amateurs.

They also tried to intimidate her about income, residency and taxes. As I said in my prior post about this messy deposition it was typically thuggish behaviour by Atty BM IMO and it was designed to threaten LA and her boyfriend. If you just think of the image of the schoolyard bully then I think you have the image of Atty BM and Fd here. Fd was mad he wasn't able to access the children for whatever his plan was to abscond with them and steal their trust funds (or whatever wild plan he had in mind!) and so he blames LA for interfering with his plans.

Also Fd wanted IMO to punish LA because she really did outsmart him brilliantly and she also was instrumental in reporting JFd missing quickly. Fd wants to do anything and everything he can to torment and torture LA and I very much hope that LE is taking care of her and her family in this case as revenge is what Fd seems to fixate on always.

MOO
At the time I figured they were fishing for information. AW3 wasn’t out yet, and it wasn’t public which car was in the garage with the blood spatter. FD knew, of course, that the car in there when he murdered JD was the RR, but he was secretly hoping that maybe LA had taken the kids to NY or picked them up in that vehicle, or somehow disturbed the scene and he could bring that in.
Additionally he wanted to intimidate her, of course, for all the reasons stated above, but I figured that he was fishing for more information on which car(s) were in the garage when LE arrived to investigate. I know we were wondering here.
 
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I just don't understand. If someone can't afford to pay a $400 utility bill, how can they put up $6 million in bond and retain multiple top attorneys?
I think that is a question we would all like to know. Where is the money coming from? Clearly, the outstanding mortgages owed by Dulos/Fore are never going to get paid, and one has to wonder why these loans were ever approved in the first place. What bank, post 2008, allows a borrower to get loans for more than the value of the properties themselves? Besides that head scratcher, though, how is this sinking ship staying afloat? Who is captaining this ghost ship?

Did he dip into the remaining 401k, and if so, how much was its value? Because he is less than 59 and 1/2 years old, any withdrawal from that retirement account carries with it a mandatory 20% withholding requirement by the financial institution which distributes it, and that withholding cannot be legally avoided. So what financial wizardry is being used to come up with what must be getting close to a million dollars? Especially when Dulos appears, on paper at least, to be on the verge of bankruptcy and unable to pay even his utility bills (not to mention his tax bill). Something is rotten in Farmington.
 
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Good comparison Morgan....and, this longer range view says a great deal about Fd thinking he's smarter than LE...What is he thinking? This is my woman!? UGH!
P.S. Is he covering his forearms?
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At the time I figured they were fishing for information. AW3 wasn’t out yet, and it wasn’t public which car was in the garage with the blood spatter. FD knew, of course, that the car in there when he murdered JD was the RR, but he was secretly hoping that maybe LA had taken the kids to NY or picked them up in that vehicle, or somehow disturbed the scene and he could bring that in.
Additionally he wanted to intimidate her, of course, for all the reasons stated above, but I figured that he was fishing for more information on which car(s) were in the garage when LE arrived to investigate. I know we were wondering here.
Absolutely agree.

I said the other day when we were all discussing the dismantling of the JFd memorial on Jefferson Xing that we have seen over and over Fd via his actions telling us precisely who he is and what he thought about JFd, the mother of his 5 children. IMO Fd simply wanted to wipe JFd off the face of this earth and if anyone had any doubts about this speculation then IMO look no further to the removal of a very simple memorial put up in her honour by friends and neighbours.

Fd wanted that memorial removed without a trace and didn't think twice either of violating the terms of his release to satisfy his impulse based in rage, anger and pure venomous hatred of JFd.

You bring up the fact that Atty BM and Fd were fishing for info about the car situation in the Welles garage. But what I do find fascinating about this quite clumsy display of questioning is how a savvy prosecutor can twist this all around to show that Fd (as you point out) knew precisely what the LA transport options were to bring the 4 children to the City. Fd didn't have to speculate. We also don't know if perhaps the Land Rover keys weren't available to LA or whether Fd might have even taken those keys such that there wouldn't be a vehicle available at Welles for anyone to use! IMO by talking about the LA car or even fishing for info about her new car, Fd shared so much information and knowledge that he had about the situation not only in the Welles garage but with the LA car. Like so many of the clumsy moves from Pattisville I do think this LA depo fiasco will come back to bite Fd and Pattisville down the line and will be heard by the jury in the Criminal case.

I also think this depo was yet another example of Fd letting his anger at LA get the better of him and neither he nor his atty were at all strategic IMO in terms of their questions.

MOO
 
I think that is a question we would all like to know. Where is the money coming from? Clearly, the outstanding mortgages owed by Dulos/Fore are never going to get paid, and one has to wonder why these loans were ever approved in the first place. What bank, post 2008, allows are borrower to get a loans for more than the value of the properties themselves? Besides that head scratcher, though, how is this sinking ship staying afloat? Who is captaining this ghost ship?

Did he dip into the remaining 401k, and if so, how much was its value? Because he is less than 59 and 1/2 years old, any withdrawal from that retirement account carries with it a mandatory 20% withholding requirement by the financial institution which distributes it, and that withholding cannot be legally avoided. So what financial wizardry is being used to come up with what must be getting close to a million dollars? Especially when Dulos appears, on paper at least, to be on the verge of bankruptcy and unable to pay even his utility bills (not to mention his tax bill). Something is rotten in Farmington.

Which of the several courts FD visits should/could ask the question you put forth so well @oceancalling ?

Where are the IRS and the State of CT revenue folks? How long can people go without paying taxes? How many extensions can one file? If one files an extension without paying the tax due, does that prevent one from violating tax laws? I'm incredulous!!
 
I think one of the things they were accusing LA of is possibly kidnapping (rule in the Family case was that there was approval needed to take children out of CT - JFd did this on an ongoing basis and it really seemed to steam Fd so he harped on it endlessly and was annoyed that JFd had NY doctors for children and he was desperately afraid she would move the children to NY permanently IMO). Also, the issue of child endangerment with the car seats, heights of children etc. With 4 children to transport to city she might have had to put 1 child in front.

It goes on and on and it was an effort to take a situation where LA was doing the best she could under very difficult circumstances and with limited transportation options as we know the Suburban was gone and she might not have had keys to the Land Rover and find every possible charge that could be made against her in order to frighten her - it was pure intimidation IMO in the hands of amateurs.

They also tried to intimidate her about income, residency and taxes. As I said in my prior post about this messy deposition it was typically thuggish behaviour by Atty BM IMO and it was designed to threaten LA and her boyfriend. If you just think of the image of the schoolyard bully then I think you have the image of Atty BM and Fd here. Fd was mad he wasn't able to access the children for whatever his plan was to abscond with them and steal their trust funds (or whatever wild plan he had in mind!) and so he blames LA for interfering with his plans.

Also Fd wanted IMO to punish LA because she really did outsmart him brilliantly and she also was instrumental in reporting JFd missing quickly. Fd wants to do anything and everything he can to torment and torture LA and I very much hope that LE is taking care of her and her family in this case as revenge is what Fd seems to fixate on always.
MOO

Thank you for explaining the kidnapping accusation - I didn't pick up on it (Midvale School for the Gifted here :D) but it makes sense. I totally agree they were trying to intimidate her. And I think they're going to try to discredit her as well since she's a big threat to FD (maybe even the biggest one in terms of what she's seen/knows about their relationship and the kids). Like you, I'm worried about her safety and hope LE & Dr. Farber have protection in place for her and her family. MOO.
 
Intimidating the nanny....making her worried because of the law of car seats...threatening her...as he did to JFd for all those years.. Trying to make her seem unfit for his advantage.
Accusing the nanny of not using booster seats while driving the children is a perfect example of how tone deaf and arrogant Dulos truly is! Dude, you are accused of murdering the mother of those poor children and you are asking whether the nanny ever drove any of them without a booster seat? Seriously?

This guy is, thankfully, his own worst enemy. Let's hope he keeps up that kind of petty nitpicking at trial. The jury is going to absolutely despise him before his lawyer finishes his opening statement! I can envision it going something like this:

"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you cannot believe a word the nanny says. After all, once 5 years ago, she FAILED to put one of the children in a booster seat while driving them to school! Oh, the trauma they must have experienced! Anyone who would fail to use a booster seat cannot be believed! The child was 4'11" and the law clearly required her to be 5'! She is lying to about committing a minor traffic infraction, so she must be be lying about everything else! And her boyfriend works...in a lab, like the lab used in this case, so all the lab analysis must be tainted! Even though he had nothing to do with this case, the fact that he works in a lab means all lab workers are biased against my client!"

Please, please, please, let Dulos' lawyers continue on this ridiculous line of defense.
 
Good comparison Morgan....and, this longer range view says a great deal about Fd thinking he's smarter than LE...What is he thinking? This is my woman!? UGH!
P.S. Is he covering his forearms?
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Thanks and I also thought he was covering his forearms, though if he was...he mixed them up (see pic below)! And the switch from shorts to jeans, covering something there? I think the jeans 'cover' his poison ivy and the arms are defensive wounds.

Oh, and LE is in his driveway when he arrives home? Yeah, you're going to have to wait a minute. UGH!
MOO
PS. No comment on his woMAN!

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Hmm, interesting. Good find!

But while MT SAYS she took pics, LE did NOT confirm the existence of such pics at all. They didn't say they saw them, nor that they survived her 'data purge'.

The article makes it sound like she went there, but that's only from her words. It's misleading.

We'll see, but I doubt such "selfies" exist as she claims for that day. She has no solid alibi for 5/24 -- still.

"Troconis went to the Simsbury Stop & Shop, where she says she took photos of herself with Marty the robot."
My bad and good catch! Yes, SHE SAYS she took photos of herself with Marty.
 
Thanks and I also thought he was covering his forearms, though if he was...he mixed them up (see pic below)! And the switch from shorts to jeans, covering something there? I think the jeans 'cover' his poison ivy and the arms are defensive wounds.

Oh, and LE is in his driveway when he arrives home? Yeah, you're going to have to wait a minute. UGH!
MOO
PS. No comment on his woMAN!

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Great catch Morgan. And, nice work noting his change from shorts to long pants.!
 
I didn't really understand the point of that line of questioning but if it was just to imply that she was irresponsible in some way, that was a stupid move because it's the pot calling the kettle black. Mr. "I let my 11 year old kid drive my Porsche" is hardly one to talk. MOO.
Fd's trip around the neighborhood letting one kid drive the car while the three other sat in the back was beyond irresponsible. He taught them they didn't have to respect the traffic laws; and, he endangered all of them and endangered the rest of the people in the neighborhood. According to JFd he let them drive on the roads. It was not a driveway ride around.

However, the most hideous part of this was he "showed them" that they didn't need to listen to their mother or respect her.

How dare he suggest that LA was careless with the children. I'm sure each of them riding with LA had a seat belt. I doubt there are three seatbelts in the back of the Porsche.
 
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Which of the several courts FD visits should/could ask the question you put forth so well @oceancalling ?

Where are the IRS and the State of CT revenue folks? How long can people go without paying taxes? How many extensions can one file? If one files an extension without paying the tax due, does that prevent one from violating tax laws? I'm incredulous!!
I struggle greatly to understand the Family Court process in the Dulos case and whether that Court and its 3 Judges did in fact follow and consistently apply the laws of the State of CT and the orders of the Court in the case? Did the Judges do what they were charged to do and ditto for all the attorneys and experts involved? The DV advocates in CT that have looked at the case have their doubts and I'm inclined to believe them.

Judge Heller was aware that Fd hadn't filed taxes in 2 years and she was aware of the fact that the FORE valuation was a fiction /farce and yet nothing changed. Jfd and GF supported JFd and the 5 children and did so for the duration of the divorce action.

We have now seen in AW3 the various police reports that were submitted by JFd and we have heard testimony from LA about a few of the incidences that were reported. We saw that the Fd report filed (in advance of his infamous zero affect 911 call) was to accuse JFd of taking various personal property from 4Js. Oddly enough in that report he never mentioned his children as he was more concerned it appears with the 'stuff taken'.

Did the Courts hear and review all of these JFd police reports? Why did no one seem to hear and respond to JFd pleas about her personal safety? Her language in Court testimony was quite clear as was her statement about her husband seeking revenge for her leaving. Sadly, no Judge took action on any of the pleas of JFd and so she remained fearful, probably depressed and anxious as well and most likely despondent periodically about her overall personal safety situation. The DV cycle was allowed to continue as it appears Fd then critiqued JFd for possibly seeking professional assistance to deal with the overall situation and seek support. All this was reported to the Court but yet nothing really changed and the case chugged on and on and on.

We heard the LA testimony about the panic that resulted from Fd showing up at Welles for his 'picnic with the children' 1/2 hr early 2 days before JFd was allegedly murdered in her garage by Fd. We heard about LA putting out the food and then being with JFd behind a locked door and how Fd was not allowed inside the house. Doesn't sound like behaviour of folks that were comfortable with the situation of Fd being present IMO. IMO this LA testimony was chilling but its also quite typical to hear similar stories from DV victims that fear their spouse. I'm also not sure we know at what time the court supervisor showed up and was Fd left unsupervised at Welles for 1/2 hr.

Those quotes from one of the early Judge's in the case who essentially chastised both JFd and Fd and said that as well educated people they need to figure out a way forward, or some such wishful thinking from a Judge who I'm not sure really understands the nature and horror of living with DV, still haunt me as they simply seem naive and ignorant as to what JFd faced in managing her life and those of her children with Fd. But, what are the chances of having 3 such Judges who don't seem to understand DV on a single case? Its actually quite stunning IMO while being absolutely tragic as the situation in Court didn't seem to help the victim, JFd or sadly her 5 children.

I just think about how Fd was able to evade any financial responsibility for his 5 children for nearly 2 years in Family Court, in great part because his disclosure didn't meet court standards and no consequences were imposed but also because he outright chose to not comply for periods of time as well. But the lack of urgency in resolving the Fd financial contribution to the children was made easy for the Court because JFd had means and the support of her mother. But, few women have such financial means and I do very much believe the Court took the easy way out and put the burden of support on JFd because it was easier to do so rather than get Fd to comply with anything asked of him.

I guess I wonder what might have happened if there was no Farber money as the Dulos divorce unfolded? Where would JFd have lived, where would the children have gone to school, clearly no extra activities would be possible, no nanny would be possible and we don't even know if a car to fit all 5 children would have been financially feasible? Would we have seen the $300,000/yr paid to GAL Michael (Maserti) Meehan and the parade of experts? Might we have seen quick intervention by CPS to protect the children who were emotionally challenged during this period and might we have seen Fd incarcerated for his game to delay providing financial information to the Court to support his children?

IDK, its all speculation but the fact is that Fd was allowed to go on for 2 years by 3 Judges to not pay a dime for his children's support and JFd lived in fear every day after she left 4Jx.

MOO
 
At the time I figured they were fishing for information. AW3 wasn’t out yet, and it wasn’t public which car was in the garage with the blood spatter. FD knew, of course, that the car in there when he murdered JD was the RR, but he was secretly hoping that maybe LA had taken the kids to NY or picked them up in that vehicle, or somehow disturbed the scene and he could bring that in.
Additionally he wanted to intimidate her, of course, for all the reasons stated above, but I figured that he was fishing for more information on which car(s) were in the garage when LE arrived to investigate. I know we were wondering here.

BBM in Red.

Ding, Ding, Ding!!! We have a Winner!!!

IMO.
 
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I just don't understand. If someone can't afford to pay a $400 utility bill, how can they put up $6 million in bond and retain multiple top attorneys?

I have thought of various reasons aside from lack of money KM may not be getting out on bond.

He knows laws and has seen the warrants and what they have. I am sure he has a pretty good idea what the outcome will be and what his sentence would be. I am thinking he would like to get the time in now rather than run around town for the next 6 months to a year. He may have made a deal to testify against FoHo in exchange for time served.

There is just so much we dont know. We all kept wondering why are the courts going so easy on Fo. Well maybe it is as some have speculated they do not want NP to have a fight that Fo's rights were violated.
 
Many moons ago I had posted this photo of Fotis’ arm that I zoomed in on the day he was questioned.

I am reposting as I am hoping that when he was searched, LE noticed the fingernail imprint (toward his wrist) as it appears to me. Moo

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Edited to add full photo. Actions speak louder than words. Look at his demeanor.






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great photo of arm laceration.

Anyone capable of searching these FD arm pics
and magnifying to see if he shaved his arm hairs off to avoid detection?
Would LE notice if he did? there was a delay in the body search of him and that hair grows back fast.
 
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