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Even weirder that the house would be all dark save for a porch light. :/
For all the delivery guy knew a light in the back of the house could have been on.
Even weirder that the house would be all dark save for a porch light. :/
Thank you. I'm kind of new. I am learning. I am passionate about this case!!!
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They can be challenged pre-trial and if not properly attained, if standard of "probable cause" not met, then the evidence seized with search warrant can be inadmissible and any evidence sought for and found based on information gathered from that evidence would be "fruit of the poisoned tree," and so could be ruled inadmissible as well. Hence, investigators should have ducks well lined up so as to be able to show that the source/s they listed, on which they claimed a basis for reasonable belief they would find the items listed in SW, are solid ones. LE's impressions and suspicions do not provide the required bases for probable cause. Been awhile since I studied this stuff and only recently and quickly reviewed, so feel free to correct me. We, members of the public, have not been privy to what sources investigators cited on the SWs which a judge found sufficiently convincing and prosecutors could support and believe would hold up to pre-trial challenges if lodged.
So true!Especially given the size of the house. I can only speak for myself, lol - I can be suspicious, paranoid and naive at the same time.
Just to be clear, I wasn't blaming and would never blame anyone. NOBODY would imagine what was going on in there. My comment was rebutting another comment saying "reasonable people would blah blah blah". We're human beings, not robots.
What does AIW do? Who do they produce for?
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I feel like everyone glossed over this from last page:
Quote Originally Posted by Just K View Post
While scouring court records, I noticed on one that he actually did hold a job, at Metal Fab Inc, in 2008...after he left AIW.
I found this interesting as wed heard Wint was terminated. Maybe he just transferred to another of SS's businesses?
http://www.documentcloud.org/documen...ml#document/p1
Interesting! I think SS owned this company too http://www.metalfabulous.com
Thoughts
I've been actively following this case and reading the boards as a guest, but thought I would join in the discussion. Forgive me if this has already been suggested or discussed.
In my opinion, the assistant JW was definitely involved.
There's the obvious red flag, which is the fact that he admittedly lied to police when giving his account of when/where/how things took place. When you're telling the truth, there are no mix ups or confusions, you have solid details to provide because that's what *actually* happened. Obviously, there's no reason to lie unless you're hiding something, which may or may not be involvement in the crime, but nonetheless something that you don't want the police to know about.
DW hadn't worked for AIW since 2005, so it's unlikely that he just randomly decided to seek out revenge for firing or whatever reason OR randomly came up with the idea to hold SS and his family hostage for ransom money 10 years after the fact. Whereas JW had more recent involvement with SS and family. If someone were going to commit theft from their employer, my guess is that they would do so shortly after recognizing the opportunity (i.e. a few months). JW had only worked for SS since April and based on his Instagram photos showing off all of SS luxury vehicles, had acknowledged SS wealth and placed a high amount of value and focus on material wealth. It was noted that JW and DW lived in the same apartment complex several years ago - not a coincidence, IMHO.
Then, there's the fact that JW car was found parked only a block from the family's home the day of the fire. So, he receives word of a fire at his employer's house while in Chantilly, drives back to DC to their house and finds their home engulfed in flames, and then... parks his car and leaves on foot/with a friend/in an Uber? That makes ZERO sense. Obviously, he dropped the money off, DW murdered the family and took care of setting the house on fire, and the deed was done. He went back to get his share of the money, to help with getting rid of supplies used to start the fire, to give DW a ride to metro, and/or to have one last joy ride in the Porsche.
The person in the surveillance video running away from the torched Porsche has a taller and leaner build than DW. I think the person in the video is JW.
These are just my thoughts, but the fact that his car was parked a block away without him in sight, is just a major giveaway in my opinion.
Source article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...9031d4-0adf-11e5-a7ad-b430fc1d3f5c_story.html
Thanks! I agree with you. I posted #257 that it appears DW was employed by another SS company in 2008....not sure how long so work relationship may not have been as long ago as previously thought.
JW is on video camera at Lowes in Chantilly around noon, right about the time last call From Ss's mobile to JW. JW was questioned by police when he arrived at scene of the house fire and his car was quickly taken by police that afternoon before the Porsche was set on fire. He wouldn't have had time to take Porsche to Maryland and get to Chantilly to be on camera at Lowes. Someone called police about reckless Porsche on New York Ave at 1:30pm (same time authorities responded to fire) so wasn't JW in my opinion. That said, I still think he's involved.
Especially if the entire house was dark except for the front porch light. No way, most delivery drivers would make the drop. In the DC area both Pizza delivery people and taxi drivers are often targeted for robberies. Criminals call and have a delivery or a pick up call to a vacant home.
Interesting! I think SS owned this company too http://www.metalfabulous.com
Yes. So did DFW get fired TWICE by SS?![]()
I realize there are strong feelings on both sides of the "is JW involved” debate, and please forgive me for revisiting this, but IMO there is no way SS would have involved JW in any part of his financial dealings at all, not even with the dojo. SS was a savvy, smart, experienced man running a multimillion (billion??) dollar company. He may, for a time, have had JW do little odds and ends type errands, but someone with the wherewithal and professionalism of SS would not legitimately ask him to do anything of the sort that JW is claiming regarding the money. I don't trust or believe a thing of JW's version of their relationship or of his version of the events of those days. As far as hired hit, maybe JW did the hiring? The 20/20 show made mention of the fact that JW doesn't have a record. Neither did Jodi Arias.
LE have stated repeatedly in court documents that DW didn't act alone. I do believe LE knows the evidence that forms the basis of their conclusion.
JMO
Has anybody considered this.....I have never delivered pizza...but if I did and someone had me leave it on the porch I would have called the police and reported suspicious activity! This is just crazy!