DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #16

[MyBelle]

LE has not confirmed anything except what was released via the SWs and docs. Therefore, I think it's impossible to draw conclusions based on what LE has confirmed or not confirmed.

Which is why no one should draw the conclusion that NG was present when SS received the call from Amy.

JMO

 

[BondGirl]

I'm not sure of your point because SS DID speak to Vera's husband. Which makes the vm left by SS on NG's phone on Wed. night to be even more suspicious because it was totally unnecessary.

I don't believe NG was Vera's boss. I think AS was Vera's boss which is why AS told NG that Vera could help at the dojo if needed, just let AS know. If NG was the boss, Vera's husband would have called NG first before going to the home to look for Vera.

JMO

I see what mybelle is saying - that SS may have hoped NG would pick up on how this message contrasted with what SS told him before he left the dojo on Wednesday.

 

[al66pine]

That's the sign that was in the garage. Not that it matters, but wasn't the garage finished before JW started working for SS?
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Yes someone here found & linked DC building permit for garage & other work at S home.
IIRC, permit was issued ~spring 2013, and wd/hv/bn good for one yr, only until spring 2014.
If work was not completed by then, at least by ordinance (maybe not in practice) they sh/hv applied for new permit (or renewal?).
In seeing ^ pix w crime scene tape, taken in May, right, I was surprised to see those 2 contractor signs still in driveway.)

Briefly, yes, garage work sh/hv/bn completed before JW started working for Mr S.

(No time ATM to look for my own post about this, w links to permit date, etc. I wanna say my posting was ~ 2 wks after deaths)

 

[MyBelle]

I think Mr SS would be working with "a hired cleaner" at the dojo because they were trying to get the business opened by a deadline. They have known each other for 20 years, as far as I believe. Ms AS asked NG to help via a phone call the week before. That isn't to say I believe Mr SS and NG were both doing the same type of work. As far as your question "Did he work with her when she cleaned his house?" We don't know, LE hasn't confirmed that.

LE also hasn't confirmed if SS was at the dojo while NG was there cleaning.

JMO

 

[kammiemc]

I'm not sure of your point because SS DID speak to Vera's husband. Which makes the vm left by SS on NG's phone on Wed. night to be even more suspicious because it was totally unnecessary.

I don't believe NG was Vera's boss. I think AS was Vera's boss which is why AS told NG that Vera could help at the dojo if needed, just let AS know. If NG was the boss, Vera's husband would have called NG first before going to the home to look for Vera.

JMO

At the risk of stating the obvious, the reason DW forced SS to call the husband on Thurs AM was because HE WAS KNOCKING ON THE DOOR.

DW probably thought VF's husband had been appeased for the reasons the original poster stated.

This is when this thread starts to jump the shark. IMO.

 

[MyBelle]

I see what mybelle is saying - that SS may have hoped NG would pick up on how this message contrasted with what SS told him before he left the dojo on Wednesday.

Thanks but I meant the call to NG by SS would be suspicious to police because it was totally unnecessary. What they asked in the search warrants for all the phones is for detailed tracking of locations in the days prior to the murders so they'll find out exactly where SS was when he got the call from Amy to come home.

JMO

 

[rkf]

I agree! Does anyone remember how close to the murders JW posted those type of photos? Was it within the past week or when he first started working for SS? Or consistently?

From Instagram:

Mosler (parked at Autobahn) - Jan 4, 2015 - "My first few days of 2015 have been pretty awesome! Got to drive this bad boy the other day, it was insane! #livingthedream #brokeracersclub #racecar #mosler #supercar #madeinusa #LS7 #BRCworldtour2015

Range Rover - Mar 24, 2015 - "Got a Job! My new office ain't too bad either lol. #livingthedream #thankyousupporters #blessed

Porsche - Mar 27, 2015 - "Another day on the job, my office today is pretty nice! #porsche #turbo #porsche911 #work

Bentley - Apr 3, 2015 - "My office has many leather bound sets and smells of rich mahogany! #bentley #work #livingthedream #dc #driverlife #imkindofabigdeal #iwannabeonyou

Mosler exterior - Apr 17, 2015 - "M 9-5 ain't too bad, this thing may be the baddest car on the streets of DC, and today it's my office! #mosler #mt900s #livingthedream #racecar #madeintheusa #morethanyoucanaffordpal #work #dc #hypercar #ls7 #exotic

Posts to other SM accounts would have been around the same time, but not necessarily the same day.

 

[MyBelle]

At the risk of stating the obvious, the reason DW forced SS to call the husband on Thurs AM was because HE WAS KNOCKING ON THE DOOR.

DW probably thought VF's husband had been appeased for the reasons the original poster stated.

This is when this thread starts to jump the shark. IMO.

BBM. I don't know how anyone can possibly know what Wint thought or why he did what he did.

JMO

 

[rkf]

I'm not sure of your point because SS DID speak to Vera's husband. Which makes the vm left by SS on NG's phone on Wed. night to be even more suspicious because it was totally unnecessary.

I don't believe NG was Vera's boss. I think AS was Vera's boss which is why AS told NG that Vera could help at the dojo if needed, just let AS know. If NG was the boss, Vera's husband would have called NG first before going to the home to look for Vera.

JMO

We don't know that AB didn't call NG first. Maybe she didn't pick up!

 

[TheRidge]

I think AS would have taken the opportunity to ask for help and DW couldn't risk that.

JMO

I agree...I think something bad happened to Amy early on...and I feel that she would've blurted out a "help" if given the phone...and I still think that SS was saying what he wished were happening when he told the housekeeper's husband that Amy was at the hospital because she was sick and the housekeeper was with her. Too awful.

 

[rkf]

Which is why no one should draw the conclusion that NG was present when SS received the call from Amy.

JMO

Yes, NG could totally be lying. She could be lying that she drove in with SS on Wednesday morning. She could be lying that she was scheduled to be at the dojo working until 6 or so, which is why VF wanted to work at the S home, so she could leave at 3, rather than later. NG has made contradictory statements, but as far as I know she has not said she was there at the dojo on Wednesday and then later said she was not there. There were others there who would know if NG was at the dojo when SS got the call from AS. If she lied, surely LE has been able to check her story with other witnesses. I've wondered how everyone got to and from the dojo on Wednesday, given that it seems like 2 or 3 rode in together, but all left separately. Why do you think NG is lying about being at the dojo when AS called? Where do you think she was instead of the dojo?

 

[rkf]

By request:

DW Arrest Warrant/Affidavit - https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0sbjtcn1j6vkpz/266278174-Daron-Dylon-Wint-Charging-Documents.pdf?dl=0
DW Arrest Warrant Supplement - https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ykmjzm4c...on-Dellon-Dennis-Supplement-May-2015.pdf?dl=0
SW - Woodland Drive - https://www.dropbox.com/s/574inf8dp...h-Warrant-Mansion-Murder-Case-061015.pdf?dl=0
SW Return - Woodland Drive - https://www.dropbox.com/s/qq1n5t9bzjctwpi/267576746-Wint-Warrant-2.pdf?dl=0
SW Return - Woodland Drive -https://www.dropbox.com/s/zicdswb6fkjrzmd/268392394-Mansion-Murders-evidence-recovered.pdf?dl=0
SW - JW's BMW - https://www.dropbox.com/s/jw6l5ngndlyihlx/267687232-Wint-Search-Warrant-Affidavit.pdf?dl=0
SW Return- JW's BMW - https://www.dropbox.com/s/bnrqs5luwkl0qk2/267776483-Search-Warrant-for-BMW.pdf?dl=0
SW - AS cell phone - https://www.dropbox.com/s/bp9acji2wbj81o8/267776484-Affidavit-Amy-Savopoulos-Cell-Phone.pdf?dl=0
SW - AS cell phone - https://www.dropbox.com/s/xwbdcjcnee3a2dq/267576751-Wint-Warrant.pdf?dl=0
SW - VF cell phone - https://www.dropbox.com/s/szrgdhneij3jgne/267576743-Wint-Warrant-4.pdf?dl=0
SW - SS cell phone - https://www.scribd.com/doc/267576749/Wint-Warrant-3
SW JW cell phone - https://www.dropbox.com/s/qq1n5t9bzjctwpi/267576746-Wint-Warrant-2.pdf?dl=0
SW - Chevy Cruze/Ford Amerit Truck - https://www.dropbox.com/s/9to0rlv7t2g3c35/267779255-Return-After-Search-of-Ford.pdf?dl=0SW
JW cell phone - https://www.dropbox.com/s/e80sia3svr9bhbn/267599824-Wint-Warrant-6.pdf?dl=0
JW cell phone - https://www.dropbox.com/s/ais5nss4guq8amn/267593249-Wint-Warrant-5.pdf?dl=0

 

[BondGirl]

BBM. I don't know how anyone can possibly know what Wint thought or why he did what he did.

JMO

We are all speculating and giving ideas here.

 

[BondGirl]

From Instagram:

Mosler (parked at Autobahn) - Jan 4, 2015 - "My first few days of 2015 have been pretty awesome! Got to drive this bad boy the other day, it was insane! #livingthedream #brokeracersclub #racecar #mosler #supercar #madeinusa #LS7 #BRCworldtour2015

Range Rover - Mar 24, 2015 - "Got a Job! My new office ain't too bad either lol. #livingthedream #thankyousupporters #blessed

Porsche - Mar 27, 2015 - "Another day on the job, my office today is pretty nice! #porsche #turbo #porsche911 #work

Bentley - Apr 3, 2015 - "My office has many leather bound sets and smells of rich mahogany! #bentley #work #livingthedream #dc #driverlife #imkindofabigdeal #iwannabeonyou

Mosler exterior - Apr 17, 2015 - "M 9-5 ain't too bad, this thing may be the baddest car on the streets of DC, and today it's my office! #mosler #mt900s #livingthedream #racecar #madeintheusa #morethanyoucanaffordpal #work #dc #hypercar #ls7 #exotic

Posts to other SM accounts would have been around the same time, but not necessarily the same day.

Interesting! Tuesday's and Fridays only. His last photo was almost a month from the murders so maybe he had learned not to post them or could he have already been fired? If he was a personal assistant paid directly by SS rather than AIW, who would know when he was fired?

 

[MyBelle]

Yes, NG could totally be lying. She could be lying that she drove in with SS on Wednesday morning. She could be lying that she was scheduled to be at the dojo working until 6 or so, which is why VF wanted to work at the S home, so she could leave at 3, rather than later. NG has made contradictory statements, but as far as I know she has not said she was there at the dojo on Wednesday and then later said she was not there. There were others there who would know if NG was at the dojo when SS got the call from AS. If she lied, surely LE has been able to check her story with other witnesses. I've wondered how everyone got to and from the dojo on Wednesday, given that it seems like 2 or 3 rode in together, but all left separately. Why do you think NG is lying about being at the dojo when AS called? Where do you think she was instead of the dojo?

I think NG knew about the content of Amy's call to SS because NG was involved in this crime and not because she was with SS when the call came in.

JMO

 

[Nikk]

If NG was the boss, Vera's husband would have called NG first before going to the home to look for Vera.

No, not necessarily. When a spouse does something never done before, like not come home from work yesterday afternoon and no notification, or explanation, the concerned spouse may decide to go directly to the location they believe their spouse was last at, without contacting any layers of bosses.

 

[MyBelle]

I agree...I think something bad happened to Amy early on...and I feel that she would've blurted out a "help" if given the phone...and I still think that SS was saying what he wished were happening when he told the housekeeper's husband that Amy was at the hospital because she was sick and the housekeeper was with her. Too awful.

Sadly, I think you are right.

 

[MyBelle]

No, not necessarily. When a spouse does something never done before, like not come home from work yesterday afternoon and no notification, or explanation, the concerned spouse may decide to go directly to the location they believe their spouse was last at, without contacting any layers of bosses.

Phones work faster....

 

[Nikk]

I think NG knew about the content of Amy's call to SS because NG was involved in this crime and not because she was with SS when the call came in.

You can speculate this may be the situation, but LE hasn't, yet, released any information to support this speculation.

 

[BondGirl]

Phones work faster....

I feel like he probably did both. I'm sure NG conveniently didn't pick up that call either.