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Dear Wrigley1,
Welcome to this thread. I'm so glad you are here.
Welcome to this thread. I'm so glad you are here.
I found a reference for random people in the neighborhood before the murders:
“The police documents also show what appears to be an unusual amount of activity last week around the victims’ Woodland Drive NW home. Neighbors reported seeing a man banging on the door of one home, an aggressive vacuum cleaner salesman at another house, reports of a prowler, and what a witness said could have been the Savopouloses’ blue Porsche speeding down the street the day before the deaths were discovered.”
Housekeeper of D.C. couple found dead wondered if something was amiss
Dear Patrick Thomas,
A few years back, on this thread, I posted a similar possibility.
My theory then:
My reasoning was that no one would talk or offer any information they had (and I believe they had some information) was because someone very powerful had enlisted D.W.
The threats that this unknown person would kill their families were taken seriously because of the person making the ominous threats. This individual is a criminal who has the power to have this "done". This person is "known" to them as doing this, organizing "hits" but not getting his hands dirty at the scene.
If there was an unknown person who was behind this, Wint won't give him up because he knows what this person will do to Wint's family and others he knows if he does talk.
Was the low sum of $40,000 requested to "pay" Wint for his work?
Was this a part of the plan?
Today although I lean towards D.W. being the only perpetrator, I still consider the possibility of someone who had a mind as shrewd and intelligent as S.S.
How can I not dismiss such a possibility?
After all, more than his business acumen, he had extremely high skills of strategy and technique.
It is because of the "strategy" and cleverness that he had experience with, it is difficult to believe that someone could "outsmart" him. I realize that his beloved son was being tortured for answers but was there any way S.S. could save himself and his family. I do not know.
From Legacy Obituary of Savvas Savopoulos:
"Savvas enjoyed numerous activities including martial arts, where he excelled in both knowledge and technical skill. Savvas was the current headmaster of a traditional style of Japanese swordsmanship dating to mid 1800's. His love for the martial arts started at the young age of seventeen and it was his dream to have a Japanese style center both in architecture and spirit of teaching traditional Japanese martial arts."
It's possible that Wint just simply asked about the security system without asking specifically about the cloud. He could have said something like, "I know you have cameras. Where's the footage kept?" Savvas could have asked the question about whether the recordings were in the house or in the cloud.
Right, I can see that happening and then SS saying he would have to ask his security guy with the hopes that once he got the vendor on the phone, he could convey a clue.It's possible that Wint just simply asked about the security system without asking specifically about the cloud. He could have said something like, "I know you have cameras. Where's the footage kept?" Savvas could have asked the question about whether the recordings were in the house or in the cloud.
Right, I can see that happening and then SS saying he would have to ask his security guy with the hopes that once he got the vendor on the phone, he could convey a clue.
But that's not the only call. There is the call to the pet spa and to the housekeeper to make sure she doesn't come to work. It's all just so....organized. Who cares about the pet spa - why bother with that call? Even the pizza order was organized (and included a tip!).
Are any of the perp's past crimes at this level?
jmo
Well, you are kind with your comments, for sure.Dear Inthedetails,
Your questions are excellent and insightful (as usual).
It is the intellectual level that prevents me from wholly supporting that D.W. did this all alone, whether another perpetrator was actually there or on a burner phone with him, instructing him.
I believe we will hear more evidence that will help me see this more clearly.
If there was ever a case where new evidence "comes up", this is the one. I truly hope that something new "comes to light."
Well, you are kind with your comments, for sure.
One question I am curious about - why $40k? I was hoping the testimony from the banker would be more enlightening than it was. But perhaps that person wasn't prepared to tune into irregularities (clues) because, as she said, she wanted to keep a top client happy.
Nobody (that we know of) said on the phone, "Are you okay? Is everything alright?" I guess people might not ask that of their boss/client. (I recall asking my boss that once, years ago, and he told me, "You're the first person in a long time to ask me a question like that." Aw. Turns out he wasn't okay, but that's a whole 'nother story and totally OT!)
I forgot about the speeding car the day before the fire. I'm thinking the defense will use that to show there must have been more than one person? Perhaps we'll find out.
Ack! This case! (Insert hair-pulling emoji here!)
jmo
I really don't know.@Inthedetails What exactly do you think happened? Your ability for speculation is superb! I look forward to your responses now![]()
I really don't know.
When the perp was caught with the money and with other people, I assumed at least some of those other people were involved. But they were all released. That is puzzling.
Like others, I wondered about an inside job, but nothing ever developed along those lines either.
Just feels like there is still a chunk of info missing. Maybe it will all fall in place at the trial.
jmo
I’ve always thought $40K was such a random amount. We’re there 4 people involved and the thought that S.S. could provide them $10K each be the reason for $40K?Well, you are kind with your comments, for sure.
One question I am curious about - why $40k? I was hoping the testimony from the banker would be more enlightening than it was. But perhaps that person wasn't prepared to tune into irregularities (clues) because, as she said, she wanted to keep a top client happy.
Nobody (that we know of) said on the phone, "Are you okay? Is everything alright?" I guess people might not ask that of their boss/client. (I recall asking my boss that once, years ago, and he told me, "You're the first person in a long time to ask me a question like that." Aw. Turns out he wasn't okay, but that's a whole 'nother story and totally OT!)
I forgot about the speeding car the day before the fire. I'm thinking the defense will use that to show there must have been more than one person? Perhaps we'll find out.
Ack! This case! (Insert hair-pulling emoji here!)
jmo
Do we really think DW was smart enough to think of the security system and the “cloud “while he is trying to contain 4 people? It had to be more perpetrators. To consider the money and the other housekeeper. IDK. Just a lot of pieces to remember and put together alone. IMO