Deaths of Male College Students-General Discussion #2

[DeltaDawn]

Do you mean Jared Dion? I'm not seeing any info that he was chased or makind a call.

http://footprintsattheriversedge.blogspot.com/2006/11/041004-jared-dion-21-la-crosse-wi.html

I forgot the link and fixed my above post.

No I meant Josh Snell..I went back and edited my post to a more recent article where his brother verifies the phone call from Josh to a friend where he is in the brushy area hiding and terrified. Sorry..all these names that start with J are getting confusing..because there are way too many of them. My mistake.

http://www.weau.com/news/headlines/18353369.html

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In a phone call with a friend "he said he was scared, that he was hiding in a brushy area, that he was running from someone, that he didn’t know who it was or how he was going to get away. (He said) he didn’t do anything, but he was terrified and he was scared for his life,” Jon Snell says.
/snip

 

[SuziQ]

Just flashed on the WCAX-TV NEWS on TV : "A search crew from Maine believes they spotted Nick Garza's body two weeks ago in the Otter Creek..."

I think it might be related to this article. Maybe there is an update to this?

http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=8192669

 

[DeltaDawn]

Just flashed on the WCAX-TV NEWS on TV : "A search crew from Maine believes they spotted Nick Garza's body two weeks ago in the Otter Creek..."

There was a preliminary search by air where they thought they had found something..but evidently due to the flooding of the creek and the currents they have not been able to sufficiently search that area. They are saying it may be as long as two weeks before they are able to place divers in the water there safely.

 

[dairybest]

Just flashed on the WCAX-TV NEWS on TV : "A search crew from Maine believes they spotted Nick Garza's body two weeks ago in the Otter Creek..."

Apparently, they believe that his body is trapped in the rushing water beneath the Middlebury Falls. I don't want to misquote anything from the newscast so if you would like more info:

MPD – Middlebury Police Department http://www.middleburypolice.org/news_garza.htm

Burlington, VT TV Station
http://www.wcax.com/

There are more links on the WS /Vermont/Nicholas Garza thread.

I am numb about this. The words just aren't there.

 

[emmcee]

There's definitely anger/hatred of males.

I've been trying to catch up with all the comments and this one of yours made me log in. This was the very FIRST thing that my husband said when I was telling him about these cases. His gut reaction was that the perp(s) has to be a man hater (maybe lezzies?). Could Monks also be man haters (as in masculine-envy?) The victims were all good looking, smart, normal masculine guys who had everything going for them . . . . lots of possible reasons for envy.

 

[DeltaDawn]

Apparently, they believe that his body is trapped in the rushing water beneath the Middlebury Falls. I don't want to misquote anything from the newscast so if you would like more info:

MPD – Middlebury Police Department http://www.middleburypolice.org/news_garza.htm

Burlington, VT TV Station
http://www.wcax.com/

There are more links on the WS /Vermont/Nicholas Garza thread.

I am numb about this. The words just aren't there.

Thank you db. This is heart breaking.

 

[Armchairsleuth]

I know I'm new here and this may not be anything but has anyone else given thought to the smiley face being a symbom for the drug escasty?

http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=472

 

[SuziQ]

I know I'm new here and this may not be anything but has anyone else given thought to the smiley face being a symbom for the drug escasty?

http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=472

Yeah, it was discussed in the very beginning.

 

[SuziQ]

Right, thanks Suzi. If you haven't already seen it, there's a message posted by Josh's dad just yesterday on his website. I can feel the man right through the board.

That is hearbreaking. Unfortunately not too many adults are abducted and kept alive for over five years. What a henious position for these parents to be in.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I know I'm new here and this may not be anything but has anyone else given thought to the smiley face being a symbom for the drug escasty?

http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=472

There is a thread on GHB etc. that could be associated to these cases, too.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64040

 

[SuziQ]

There is a thread on GHB etc. that could be associated to these cases, too.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64040

Armchair, you should put that ecstacy link into the drugs thread. We may need to refer to it later.

 

[DeltaDawn]

That is hearbreaking. Unfortunately not too many adults are abducted and kept alive for over five years. What a henious position for these parents to be in.

Which Josh is this about?

There are so many Josh's and Justin's and a Jared it is heartbreakingly hard to keep them straight. Not trying to deminish any of them here. Prayers to their families and friends.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Apparently, they believe that his body is trapped in the rushing water beneath the Middlebury Falls. I don't want to misquote anything from the newscast so if you would like more info:

MPD – Middlebury Police Department http://www.middleburypolice.org/news_garza.htm

Burlington, VT TV Station
http://www.wcax.com/

There are more links on the WS /Vermont/Nicholas Garza thread.

I am numb about this. The words just aren't there.

Thanks for letting us know.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Armchair, you should put that ecstacy link into the drugs thread. We may need to refer to it later.

Taken care of.

 

[DeltaDawn]

I know I'm new here and this may not be anything but has anyone else given thought to the smiley face being a symbom for the drug escasty?

http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=472

Somehow I think this whole case is linked to symbolism. The smiley, the 12 other symbols, the way Chris Jenkins body was postioned, etc.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

There is so much gang graffiti around that it is hard to distinguish if any of the symbols are related to the drownings.

I have been researching all afternoon about graffiti (I know I have seen the lines with the two straight marks coming out on the sides somewhere, but haven't found it again.). I think the graffiti in Ridley looks like standard gang art. The smiley face with the crown having 3 points could be associated to the LK's.

I am finding nothing on female gangs in Queens, NY (Thanks for that tip, Arm.) or anywhere else in the country.

 

[Armchairsleuth]

Taken care of.

Thank you. I did tell everyone I ws new which = slow for now.:blushing:

 

[Masterj]

My nephew travels in differnt circle, he goes to these clubs. The first thing he said when he saw the smiley face left behind at the bar in PA where Tommy Booth went missing was it looked like the 'tag' of a visious female gang out of Queens New York. He said the eyes looked like they had eye lashes and the tree dots above the head was a crown. He said they kidnap male victims, have sex with them and kill them. Has anyone else heard of such a gang? That smiley face does look differnt from the others.

In what part of Queens? I live in Queens and never heard of anything like that. Hmmm, I am going to pay attention to graffiti now. I will say that graffiti is all over the place in much of Queens.

As for cell phones, I know Chris Jenkin's girlfriend Ashley has his cell phone. She returned it to his parents the next day. Along with his wallet, I think?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Thank you. I did tell everyone I was new which = slow for now.:blushing:

LOL It wasn't that you were slow! I just added it to bump up that thread for you to see. :blowkiss:

 

[Armchairsleuth]

In what part of Queens? I live in Queens and never heard of anything like that. Hmmm, I am going to pay attention to graffiti now. I will say that graffiti is all over the place in much of Queens.

As for cell phones, I know Chris Jenkin's girlfriend Ashley has his cell phone. She returned it to his parents the next day. Along with his wallet, I think?

I'm afraid I know nothing about Queens, I was just repeating what my nephew said. I didn't even know there were different parts. I thought it was something that should be mentioned and looked at. You never know.