Discussions on Formal Sentencing Hearing - Jodi Arias #9

[memoriesbymichelle]

Hez, my thanks button is gone but you are exactly right. WHO thinks like this? Even IF Travis was abusive he did NOT deserve the fate he got and then if that wasn't enough for HIS family to endure, THEY should apologize? REALLY? In my opinion they just are a few sandwiches short of a picnic and you just can't fix stupid, but IF something as terrible as this happened by the hands of MY child? I would still be there for my child, not condoning what he did, but while I was there for my child I would be SO sympathetic to the family for the child that THEY lost at my child's hand! It's absurd to think any other way.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

It's funny to me Miss Haley, because my mind is always wanting to know WHY. About everything. I'm just wired that way, I guess, so it's always a struggle for me, because there is no explanation and even IF we could get one, it's not like we would say after hearing the explanation, "OH THAT'S why! NOW I understand. NO! There is no explanation. It's the same in other things in life. Even IF we get the explanation, most of the time it does not satisfy our need to know WHY.

 

[kimi_SFC]

Ya, what ELSE have they been exposed to by her throughout the years? I mean not everything is on video. SMH

My eldest participates in a local B&GC after school program at her middle school. Recently a friend of the program director filmed a video for Nickelodeon focusing on physical fitness, and many of the kids participated. My daughter didn't, because I've modified her photo release (her image may NOT be used with her name, because we've been in hiding from her biological father since she was 18 months old and he was prosecuted for DV and child abuse).

She calls it "publicity issues" and tries to resiliently laugh it off, without revealing the why, because kids can be mean, and it's no one's business. All it will take it someone posting her name and pic and our fragile cover is blown. The kids all have school issued Chromebooks now, so my level of worry is through the roof. But I digress.

Any child whose parent signed the general photo release didn't sign an additional permission slip. They only heard about it IF their kid bothered to tell them. I only heard about it because she was upset that she felt SO left out and was being teased by a few not-so-nice kids.

I met with the Program Director that afternoon. He tried to minimize the whole thing. Looking back now (especially in light of what happened in Hawaii), these things shouldn't be allowed to happen without expressed written permission of each child's parent/legal guardian! ullhair:

I reminded my daughter on that day that everything happens for a reason. Once she found out she wasn't the only kid there who couldn't be filmed, she was A-OK. That's my girl! Bullies are everywhere, and in all honesty, the longer I can keep her off of social media (she's 11), the better. :moo:

As parents, we can never assume anything. I forwarded the link to HawaiiNewsNow (about the DeLos Santos debacle) to our Program Director. I hope he takes it as the cautionary tale it is. That could've been him (and it still may be once that Nickelodeon video hits the airwaves / interwebs).

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[MissHaley]

I can't remove my double post! Sorry, don't know how that happened. oops

 

[sumbunny]

Arpaio Is getting death threats now??? Think it's JA's minions?

http://www.courtchatter.com/2015/03/mcso-investigating-death-threats.html

 

[ElleElle]

BBM- Thank you for sharing this. That is so so sad, it hurts my heart. Your last statement really summed it up for me, that I bolded. No explaining the evil. Rational people can't understand evil. That's it! Some people just have their mind set to hurt & cause pain.

There is a special place reserved for evil, and the door is open for JA. :burn: :devil:

 

[ElleElle]

What's this?

3/5/2015 JUL - Jury List - Restricted if Filed after 1/1/2008 - Party (001) 3/19/2015

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.g...rtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

 

[mydirtysecret]

Arpaio Is getting death threats now??? Think it's JA's minions?

http://www.courtchatter.com/2015/03/mcso-investigating-death-threats.html

If it Is her minions it'll just further her isolation. DOC will be extremely strict approving her visitor list and can Deny ALL visits indefinitely citing facility safety.

 

[stillwatersc]

Hez, my thanks button is gone but you are exactly right. WHO thinks like this? Even IF Travis was abusive he did NOT deserve the fate he got and then if that wasn't enough for HIS family to endure, THEY should apologize? REALLY? In my opinion they just are a few sandwiches short of a picnic and you just can't fix stupid, but IF something as terrible as this happened by the hands of MY child? I would still be there for my child, not condoning what he did, but while I was there for my child I would be SO sympathetic to the family for the child that THEY lost at my child's hand! It's absurd to think any other way.

I would not be there for my child if they did anything so heinous. The child would be disowned.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

I would not be there for my child if they did anything so heinous. The child would be disowned.

I understand. I don't picture my child EVER doing anything close to being this heinous. I was disowned by my father at age 13 for just wanting to live with my mother, so I don't think I could disown my kids, BUT they WOULD pay for their crimes and who knows, maybe I would change my mind if they did do something this heinous.

 

[ShadyLady]

Snipped by me.

I sat here with my mouth agape a few weeks ago as I read somewhere where Aunt Sue was complaining that Travis' family never apologized to Jodi's family for all the pain he caused (gag) and abuse (double gag) he had heaped upon her.

I love what was posted earlier about victim mentality. I think this is the poster family for that.

Obviously Jodi did not fall far from the tree....

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Troy Hayden video discusses the Juan's Tie/Christine Beswick/@Quinn__Michaels information.

Catching up now .. starts 45 mins in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOuSMYm3JcQ&feature=youtu.be

 

[I'mjazzed]

I understand. I don't picture my child EVER doing anything close to being this heinous. I was disowned by my father at age 13 for just wanting to live with my mother, so I don't think I could disown my kids, BUT they WOULD pay for their crimes and who knows, maybe I would change my mind if they did do something this heinous.

I wouldn't walk away from my kids but, I would not make excuses for them either. I would want them to face what they did and get the help they needed... I think that was one of the problems with Arias. Her parents coddled her and made excuses for her long before any of this happened. Just like they are doing now! Wanting an apology from The Alexander's??? That's SO beyond delusional.

 

[krkrjx]

I don't understand what ja supporters get out of trashing the family of a murder victim? I really don't get it and I have a good imagination. Anybody have insight into that?

There are probably a whole slew of complicated reasons why people act in this way but one thing I see going on that is not complicated at all is this: Money talks!

Her family are trying to keep the killer happy. Donations have reportedly been coming in--slow but steady--with what is not sent directly to the killer going into this account or that account, some or all of which are managed by family. I don't know if it is true that Aunt Sue had a financial windfall a while back and got a brand new car but it certainly was reported. Sure, people buy cars all the time and who knows, maybe Sue financed hers the right way. But then, maybe she didn't. It's almost unbelievable what some people have been known to do for money, but believe you should.

You do not cross a psychopath without consequences! Jodi does not let anything go. She goes after every single person who she feels has betrayed her even in the slightest. That's why she never let up on sliming Travis and never will. And it is why she has attacked his family emotionally and continues to do so. Remember her trip to confront Bianca? And Bianca had not even done anything to her directly. Killer will never stop trying to put people in their place (as she sees it) as long as she has a way to get the word out. And when she is out of options and can no longer get her word out she still won't stop--she will spend her days talking to herself.

I can't wait til the money donations slow to a crawl and eventually stop. It might not be a long wait...if the killer is actually held accountable if she and her family have been hiding funds to keep her indigent status, they might have to actually use the funds for what they were collected for. Then the minions will turn on each other, and it won't be pretty.

But no doubt Killer will always have someone consoling her as no doubt some are doing so for non-monetary reasons. The reasons for singing the virtues of a vicious psychopathic killer can vary from one individual to the next and their motives can be very complicated to weed out and understand, except possibly by citizens who have dealt first-hand with that kind of crazy.

JMO

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I wouldn't walk away from my kids but, I would not make excuses for them either. I would want them to face what they did and get the help they needed... I think that was one of the problems with Arias. Her parents coddled her and made excuses for her long before any of this happened. Just like they are doing now! Wanting an apology from The Alexander's??? That's SO beyond delusional.

I wouldn't walk away either, but as far as inflicting any further damage on the Alexanders by acting anything other than deeply sorry, forget about it.

 

[FelicityLemon]

I wouldn't walk away from my kids but, I would not make excuses for them either. I would want them to face what they did and get the help they needed... I think that was one of the problems with Arias. Her parents coddled her and made excuses for her long before any of this happened. Just like they are doing now! Wanting an apology from The Alexander's??? That's SO beyond delusional.

This is something else I don't understand. Her mom tells the Detective that her friends would call her telling her that her daughter needed help. Mom even relates the phone calls in the wee hours begging her to get help for ja. Does mom ever indicate anywhere at any time that they got their daughter any help of any sort?

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

I wouldn't walk away from my kids but, I would not make excuses for them either. I would want them to face what they did and get the help they needed... I think that was one of the problems with Arias. Her parents coddled her and made excuses for her long before any of this happened. Just like they are doing now! Wanting an apology from The Alexander's??? That's SO beyond delusional.

Exactly! I mean for someone to do that to another human being and THEN want an apology from HIS family? My kids know I don't play that way. They know there ARE consequences to their actions and they WILL pay the price if they mess up.

 

[TartLemon]

What'd I miss? JA is requesting an apology for Travis' Family? For what?

 

[pinkandgreenmom]

What'd I miss? JA is requesting an apology for Travis' Family? For what?

I don't remember what brought it on, but sometime after the second verdict Aunt Sue was complaining that TA's family never apologized to JA's family for the "abuse" he put her through.

ETA: maybe complaining isn't the right word. Mentioned? Retorted? I don't remember the context, just what she said.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

I don't remember what brought it on, but sometime after the second verdict Aunt Sue was complaining that TA's family never apologized to JA's family for the "abuse" he put her through.

ETA: maybe complaining isn't the right word. Mentioned? Retorted? I don't remember the context, just what she said.

I think she was trying to justify the actions of HER family by saying "well the Alexander family hasn't even apologized to us" cray cray is all I can say