DNA Doe Project - General Discussion #3

[djanga]

For today, 80 cases oficially announced to be solved and 5 cases where Namus was removed. From more than 100 solved cases, so it makes 15 more cases potentially solved!

 

[Puzzleworth]

I’ve noticed that the Camp Fire victims are no longer listed as pending on the site, I wonder if they’ve all been identified.

This was clarified by the DDP on another website (I don't believe I can link it here). They stated that DNA extraction for the last victim, who was described in this SF Chronicle piece, was unsuccessful. I assume they plan to try again some day in the future.

 

[doggybag2355]

This was clarified by the DDP on another website (I don't believe I can link it here). They stated that DNA extraction for the last victim, who was described in this SF Chronicle piece, was unsuccessful. I assume they plan to try again some day in the future.

Interesting. I wonder if @othram would want to attempt a DNA extraction and sequencing

 

[djanga]

The cases on the solved page were fixed! Now they appear correctly as solved.

Naylor Road John Doe is the first DDP’s D.C. case is still listed as pending, however I think it is an active case, I remember it was added to the spreadsheet recently and has a decent match. Wondering if the DDP will take more of D.C. cases.

 

[doggybag2355]

The cases on the solved page were fixed! Now they appear correctly as solved.

Naylor Road John Doe is the first DDP’s D.C. case is still listed as pending, however I think it is an active case, I remember it was added to the spreadsheet recently and has a decent match. Wondering if the DDP will take more of D.C. cases.

My gut feeling with the slow site updates is they may have some more announcements on the way.

 

[othram]

Interesting. I wonder if @othram would want to attempt a DNA extraction and sequencing

Always happy to help!

 

[djanga]

A very interesting article about DDP’s Minnesota cases

‘Hardwired to help people’: DNA Doe Project uses genealogy to identify John, Jane Does

The volunteer group hopes to identify four more Minnesota victims in unsolved cases.

www.kare11.com

 

[John/Jane Doe]

https://www.facebook.com/2011009255824516/posts/3400943026831125

 

[doggybag2355]

I totally forgot that there was a third Travis county case listed last year

Redbud Trail John Doe 1998 - DNA Doe Project

dnadoeproject.org

Also a new case from Sangamon County, Illinois

Lost Bridge Trail John Doe 2022 - DNA Doe Project

Description: In May, 2022, authorities in Springfield, Illinois, recovered a single tibia near a homeless encampment in the area of Lost Bridge Trail. The bone was determined to belong to an adult male. NamUs ID: UP95098 Date Body Found: 5/19/2022 Race: Unknown Sex: Male Estimated Age...

dnadoeproject.org

 

[djanga]

I totally forgot that there was a third Travis county case listed last year

Redbud Trail John Doe 1998 - DNA Doe Project

dnadoeproject.org

Also a new case from Sangamon County, Illinois

Lost Bridge Trail John Doe 2022 - DNA Doe Project

Description: In May, 2022, authorities in Springfield, Illinois, recovered a single tibia near a homeless encampment in the area of Lost Bridge Trail. The bone was determined to belong to an adult male. NamUs ID: UP95098 Date Body Found: 5/19/2022 Race: Unknown Sex: Male Estimated Age...

dnadoeproject.org

Good to hear they took more of Illinois cases, so far they have only one long-term Illinois active case Grundy County Jane Doe

I think there is one new Canada case is still missing on the website

 

[doggybag2355]

Good to hear they took more of Illinois cases, so far they have only one long-term Illinois active case Grundy County Jane Doe

I think there is one new Canada case is still missing on the website

Yes, some case from Montreal I believe, I haven't seen the pinned post in a long time

 

[DSCrime]

Yes, some case from Montreal I believe, I haven't seen the pinned post in a long time

Since you mentioned Montreal, there's a case that I've followed for a while that would really benefit from genetic genealogy:

CANADA - Canada - QC, Montreal, WhtFem, 50-70yo, "Madame Victoria"

 

[doggybag2355]

I'm not sure if this is a mistake, but Mr. X and the Hartford Circus Fire victims aren't on the pending page anymore. If you still have a direct link you can access the pages but they aren't showing up in the list. I want to say it's a mistake, since when that happened with Alachua County John Doe, I think his page was fully closed.

Edit: Columbia County Jane Doe isn't there either, I'm pretty sure this is a mistake.

 

[djanga]

I'm not sure if this is a mistake, but Mr. X and the Hartford Circus Fire victims aren't on the pending page anymore. If you still have a direct link you can access the pages but they aren't showing up in the list. I want to say it's a mistake, since when that happened with Alachua County John Doe, I think his page was fully closed.

Edit: Columbia County Jane Doe isn't there either, I'm pretty sure this is a mistake.

I remember the DDP mentioned they were preparing a dashboard on the website which will list all the cases, maybe they are amending the website as well

 

[djanga]

Since you mentioned Montreal, there's a case that I've followed for a while that would really benefit from genetic genealogy:

CANADA - Canada - QC, Montreal, WhtFem, 50-70yo, "Madame Victoria"

Interesting I think both the DDP and Othram accept suggestions of the new cases from public now.
A new DDP Canadian case listed on the pinned post is Montreal River John Doe (2017) Ontario with the case reference 2017047335 but I can not find this reference in the Canadian unidentified persons website

 

[doggybag2355]

Metson Lake John Doe has been identified as Kurt Aken.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1635330902258745346

 

[djanga]

Interestingly, people who were frequent visitors of the park knew him as Kurt, which proved to be his real name

Body of Homeless Man Found In Golden Gate Park; Area Woman Says He Was Notorious 'Terror'

A dead body was found in the area of Metson Lake in Golden Gate Park on Monday, and the dead man was reportedly well known to women who walk dogs in the area.

sfist.com

Also, there is a new article about his identification

DNA used to identify man found dead in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park

Using the latest DNA tracking technology, San Francisco police investigators have been able to identify the body of a man found dead in 2021 in Golden Gate Park.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[iamshadow21]

Metson Lake John Doe has been identified as Kurt Aken.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1635330902258745346

Sleep well, Kurt.

No Doe or missing threads for Kurt on WS.

 

[DSCrime]

Interesting I think both the DDP and Othram accept suggestions of the new cases from public now.
A new DDP Canadian case listed on the pinned post is Montreal River John Doe (2017) Ontario with the case reference 2017047335 but I can not find this reference in the Canadian unidentified persons website

I think I found the Montreal River John Doe 2017 case you cited

Canada's Missing | Case details

The description on the Canadian unidentified persons website mentions:
"Biogeographic Ancestry testing predicts that this unidentified male is of European ancestry."

Sounds like they are making some headway

Not sure if there's a WS thread for Montreal River John Doe 2017?

 

[iamshadow21]

Not sure if there's a WS thread for Montreal River John Doe 2017?

RSBM

I just had a good look and I can't find one.