Dr. Sievers' RHHC Medical Practice - Operations & Website

[FightTheOstrich]

What is shady compounding pharmacy? She used Myerlee Pharmacy...they seemed pretty legit to me. I haven't sleuthed them though...JMO http://www.myerleepharmacy.com/pharmacists-and-owners/

There's huge money in compounding and there are some bad apples in the compounding pharmacy business. Pharmacists have always compounded it's not anything new and its not bad.

But some compounding pharmacists have tried to usurp the authority of doctors in an attempt to profit. For example, the compounding pharmacy will run a patient's labs and then sends a prescription to the doctor telling him/her that patient XYZ needs compounded formulation ABC and asks the doctor to sign the Rx. That typically doesn't fly with most doctors. But some docs are more than happy to sign off on an Rx for a patient they haven't examined for a cut.

Some compounding pharmacies get into trouble for making false claims. One of TS's areas of focus was BHRT.
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm049311.htm

As then there are cases like these.
http://www.ibtimes.com/us-military-...tors-investigate-claims-false-billing-2175459

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/04/24/inside-one-most-murderous-corporate-crimes-us-history-322665.html

The medical/pharma industry is big money and there are bad apples at every level

I have no idea if there's a relationship between MS/TS and a shady compounding pharmacy. IMO, if there was/is an FDA investigation into the Sievers it's not linked to the supplements they were peddling.

 

[irishchook]

There's huge money in compounding and there are some bad apples in the compounding pharmacy business. Pharmacists have always compounded it's not anything new and its not bad.

But some compounding pharmacists have tried to usurp the authority of doctors in an attempt to profit. For example, the compounding pharmacy will run a patient's labs and then sends a prescription to the doctor telling him/her that patient XYZ needs compounded formulation ABC and asks the doctor to sign the Rx. That typically doesn't fly with most doctors. But some docs are more than happy to sign off on an Rx for a patient they haven't examined for a cut.

Some compounding pharmacies get into trouble for making false claims. One of TS's areas of focus was BHRT.
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm049311.htm

As then there are cases like these.
http://www.ibtimes.com/us-military-...tors-investigate-claims-false-billing-2175459

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/04/24/inside-one-most-murderous-corporate-crimes-us-history-322665.html

The medical/pharma industry is big money and there are bad apples at every level

I have no idea if there's a relationship between MS/TS and a shady compounding pharmacy. IMO, if there was/is an FDA investigation into the Sievers it's not linked to the supplements they were peddling.

Thank you, SO much, for this insight!!!

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[Helper9693]

Prior to TS death CWW was the criminal...as far as we know. MS's criminal career apparently began with tax evasion. If CWW was true to form he got MS involved in something illegal...He has dragged all his friends into his crimes. For some reason...I don't think MS just killed TS for the money...I think she must have caught them doing something illegal and was going to turn them both in...just a theory. JMO
Thanks for the info on compounding pharmacy's!...

 

[howonkee]

Maybe it's been mentioned..I don't know...I find it fascinating that MS was throwing out office equipment just prior to sending patients a letter talking about finding a new Doctor for the practice.

Yes, that and how would he possibly print out patients medical records without a printer, as he led the patients to believe those would be provided at some point.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

IMO, it's unlikely that MS was somehow running a pill mill or was connected to a pill mill pharmacy. The DEA would have busted him eons ago. He's just not that clever. I also think it's impossible based upon what TS's verified patients have stated and the limited hours her practice was open. It's really difficult to fly under the radar if you're involved in that kind of stuff. Someone would have leaked something by now.

 

[RemingtonSteele]

Maybe it's been mentioned..I don't know...I find it fascinating that MS was throwing out office equipment just prior to sending patients a letter talking about finding a new Doctor for the practice.

Our office backs up our computers offsite. I would think that most offices do. If you backup onsite and the office burnt down, there goes your backup. I wonder if CWW was backing up the computers somewhere else, since he is portrsuch a computer expert.

My point is, shouldn't there a backup somewhere so it wouldn't matter if MS tossed the computers?

 

[mariahc]

There's huge money in compounding and there are some bad apples in the compounding pharmacy business. Pharmacists have always compounded it's not anything new and its not bad.

But some compounding pharmacists have tried to usurp the authority of doctors in an attempt to profit. For example, the compounding pharmacy will run a patient's labs and then sends a prescription to the doctor telling him/her that patient XYZ needs compounded formulation ABC and asks the doctor to sign the Rx. That typically doesn't fly with most doctors. But some docs are more than happy to sign off on an Rx for a patient they haven't examined for a cut.

Some compounding pharmacies get into trouble for making false claims. One of TS's areas of focus was BHRT.
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm049311.htm

As then there are cases like these.
http://www.ibtimes.com/us-military-...tors-investigate-claims-false-billing-2175459

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/04/24/inside-one-most-murderous-corporate-crimes-us-history-322665.html

The medical/pharma industry is big money and there are bad apples at every level

I have no idea if there's a relationship between MS/TS and a shady compounding pharmacy. IMO, if there was/is an FDA investigation into the Sievers it's not linked to the supplements they were peddling.

Since we are going down this path and some of you have some expertise here, I will share my experience. I went to TS for HRT. I was prescribed something compounded from Myerly Pharmacy, it was delivered direct to my door. I used it and within a few days knew there was a problem with it - the dosage, formula, or whatever. It was a huge dosage, and I started having pain. Anyway, I threw it out and moved on, not trusting something about the whole experience. Part of it was a feeling when I was sitting in the waiting room. A gut instinct that something wasn't on the up and up about the place. All of this is my experience only and it doesn't prove a thing, just sharing an experience I had with this practice. I probably paid $100 directly to the pharmacy for the prescription and about $400 or so for the consultation. I thought it was a pretty expensive fail /bad decision on my part. After all this came down within a few months I'm just scratching my head.

 

[Helper9693]

...... Part of it was a feeling when I was sitting in the waiting room. A gut instinct that something wasn't on the up and up about the place. All of this is my experience only and it doesn't prove a thing, just sharing an experience I had with this practice. I probably paid $100 directly to the pharmacy for the prescription and about $400 or so for the consultation. I thought it was a pretty expensive fail /bad decision on my part. After all this came down within a few months I'm just scratching my head.

I saw TS for 2 years then left about a year before she was murdered. We worked together on my health. She did a lot of testing which was very helpful...none of my other Doctors did or do this (unless I request). The reason I left...she continued to suggest I eat foods that my other Doctor told me to avoid. After the the third time this happened I thought well she is either not reading my chart or there is some other issue. I moved on.

 

[irishchook]

I saw TS for 2 years then left about a year before she was murdered. We worked together on my health. She did a lot of testing which was very helpful...none of my other Doctors did or do this (unless I request). The reason I left...she continued to suggest I eat foods that my other Doctor told me to avoid. After the the third time this happened I thought well she is either not reading my chart or there is some other issue. I moved on.

Forgive me as I don't know the details of your health. Was your other doctor a conventional doctor whom you trusted? I ask only because TS was a doctor with an alternative approach. I guess I'm wondering why you didn't trust HER advice on food choices?

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[Helper9693]

Forgive me as I don't know the details of your health. Was your other doctor a conventional doctor whom you trusted? I ask only because TS was a doctor with an alternative approach. I guess I'm wondering why you didn't trust HER advice on food choices?

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I'm hesitant to talk about my specific issues...yes it was conventional doctor...a specialist. When I reminded her I can't eat those foods and why...she would say "oh that's right" and move on to some other option.

 

[Lilibet]

I'm hesitant to talk about my specific issues...yes it was conventional doctor...a specialist. When I reminded her I can't eat those foods and why...she would say "oh that's right" and move on to some other option.

As an illustration and not trying to get more information out of you but if someone has an allergy to tree nuts, for example, and a doctor forgets and repeatedly suggests eating them as part of a healthful diet, I would be uncomfortable with that. I don't expect a doctor to remember every little thing about me, but it's disconcerting when it happens over again about the same subject. I get it.
JMO

 

[FightTheOstrich]

Not all compounding pharmacies and their products are bad. But there are bad apples out there.

These articles touch on a few of the issues.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/01/sports/othersports/01polo.html?_r=0
https://www.avma.org/News/JAVMANews/Pages/090615r.aspx

I don't want to go off topic but in my experience the best internal medicine/family practice doctors refer patients out to the appropriate specialties. It's impossible for an IM/FP doc to stay current on everything. So if you're a woman, see an OB/GYN. If you have heart problems, find an excellent cardiologist.

I have no idea if MS somehow linked TS with a bad pharmacy. I just think it's more probable that MS found a way to profit from a relationship with a compounding pharmacy than say writing narcotics without her knowledge. Boutique/alternative medicine docs tend to use compounding pharmacies more than traditional docs.

 

[Matlacha]

All kinds of doctors (conventional and otherwise) give advice that may be wrong. A past family doc of mine, very conventional, told me I was “crazy” to think I was feeling an abdominal aneurysm. After I insisted on a CT scan, the coward had his nurse call to tell me I had not one but two aneurysms, one with blood already flowing within the artery wall, and that I needed to see a surgeon immediately. There are also great docs, of course, including the incredible surgeon who did my grafts.

But if you read Drugging Data, by Malcolm Kendrick, MD, or view the 15-minute Youtube video “Drug Benefits vs Harms: The Impact of Conflict of Interest” by Beatrice Golomb, MD, PhD, you’ll find that much of the research published in peer-reviewed journals is bought-and-paid-for propaganda. So how is a busy family doc of any persuasion to make good decisions, on diet or anything else, when much of a doctor’s education is provided, one way or another, by drug manufacturers? Opinions vary tremendously (from veganism to extreme low-carb in terms on diet) among highly trained physicians.

My daughter-in-law, a great MD, warned my wife and I about Vioxx in 2000. In 2004, after it had killed 60,000 people, Vioxx was withdrawn from the market. Despite e-mails showing that Merck officials had known about Vioxx deaths for years, no individual was ever charged with a crime. After fines and lawsuits, the drug was probably still did a moneymaker for Merck.

Every year there are in excess of 100,000 deaths in the U.S. attributed to adverse reactions to prescription drugs, taken as prescribed, in hospitals (with much higher death tolls outside hospitals):

http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/Developmen.../ucm110632.htm#ADRs: Prevalence and Incidence

On the other hand, in an average year, no one dies from vitamin and mineral supplements according to the annual reports of the American Association of Poison Control Centers. This is a different data series, of course, than the FDA numbers. For 2014, 620 people are reported by the AAPCC to have died in emergency rooms from prescription drugs, but no one from vitamins or mineral supplements (see the final pages of table 22B–the two deaths from mineral salts are not from supplements but from ingestion of bath and industrial salts):

https://aapcc.s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs/annual_reports/2014_AAPCC_NPDS_Annual_Report.pdf

Not only does the data fail to support any serious risk from vitamins and supplements, but Sheriff Scott is on record as saying Dr. Sievers did nothing to bring on her murder (with the exception that he would not rule out affairs). So he appears to have cleared her behavior in the practice, whether supplements, advertising, paid speeches, or payment-for-service (wrongly described by some as cash-only, though surely most patients paid with checks or credit cards). Whether future documents will show that Mark was guilty of wrongdoing in the practice remains to be seen, but speculation with regard to Teresa seems misplaced.

 

[dmac55]

All kinds of doctors (conventional and otherwise) give advice that may be wrong. A past family doc of mine, very conventional, told me I was “crazy” to think I was feeling an abdominal aneurysm. After I insisted on a CT scan, the coward had his nurse call to tell me I had not one but two aneurysms, one with blood already flowing within the artery wall, and that I needed to see a surgeon immediately. There are also great docs, of course, including the incredible surgeon who did my grafts.

But if you read Drugging Data, by Malcolm Kendrick, MD, or view the 15-minute Youtube video “Drug Benefits vs Harms: The Impact of Conflict of Interest” by Beatrice Golomb, MD, PhD, you’ll find that much of the research published in peer-reviewed journals is bought-and-paid-for propaganda. So how is a busy family doc of any persuasion to make good decisions, on diet or anything else, when much of a doctor’s education is provided, one way or another, by drug manufacturers? Opinions vary tremendously (from veganism to extreme low-carb in terms on diet) among highly trained physicians.

My daughter-in-law, a great MD, warned my wife and I about Vioxx in 2000. In 2004, after it had killed 60,000 people, Vioxx was withdrawn from the market. Despite e-mails showing that Merck officials had known about Vioxx deaths for years, no individual was ever charged with a crime. After fines and lawsuits, the drug was probably still did a moneymaker for Merck.

Every year there are in excess of 100,000 deaths in the U.S. attributed to adverse reactions to prescription drugs, taken as prescribed, in hospitals (with much higher death tolls outside hospitals):

http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/Developmen.../ucm110632.htm#ADRs: Prevalence and Incidence

On the other hand, in an average year, no one dies from vitamin and mineral supplements according to the annual reports of the American Association of Poison Control Centers. This is a different data series, of course, than the FDA numbers. For 2014, 620 people are reported by the AAPCC to have died in emergency rooms from prescription drugs, but no one from vitamins or mineral supplements (see the final pages of table 22B–the two deaths from mineral salts are not from supplements but from ingestion of bath and industrial salts):

https://aapcc.s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs/annual_reports/2014_AAPCC_NPDS_Annual_Report.pdf

Not only does the data fail to support any serious risk from vitamins and supplements, but Sheriff Scott is on record as saying Dr. Sievers did nothing to bring on her murder (with the exception that he would not rule out affairs). So he appears to have cleared her behavior in the practice, whether supplements, advertising, paid speeches, or payment-for-service (wrongly described by some as cash-only, though surely most patients paid with checks or credit cards). Whether future documents will show that Mark was guilty of wrongdoing in the practice remains to be seen, but speculation with regard to Teresa seems misplaced.

from my view, most of the discussion about those topics have been related to the ethics, not the legality
jmo

 

[FightTheOstrich]

I don't think anyone is suggesting that TS did anything wrong. Instead we are looking into areas where MS may have been able to profit via his role as office manager.

Every prescription drug has side effects. It's up to the individual doc and patient to weigh the risks and benefits. No one would take Aspirin if they read the warning label. Warfarin is rat poison. The nutraceutical/supplement market is like the Wild West (check out the high levels of mercury and lead in some of those "safe" products"). Ultimately, there's not one product (supplement or prescription) that is safe for everyone. That's why we see physicians like TS, it sounds like TS was a pretty good one too.

 

[creepingskills]

Any update on MS releasing medical records?

 

[dmac55]

via Dr. Sievers' website, the office had regular yearly closures, one around Christmas, and one in July
as of March, that was still the schedule

Teresa's sister states the June 26th vacation plan, with Teresa returning home 2 days earlier than MS and the children, was planned a month in advance.
MS's phone download showed evidence of the burner phones since the beginning of May

MS used Teresa's grandmother's 75th birthday as the ruse for the unscheduled vacation.
jmo
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Policies & Fees - Dr Teresa Sievers
http://www.drteresasievers.com/fees.pdf

TERESA SIEVERS, MD, MSMS, FAARM, ABAARM
RESTORATIVE HEALTH & HEALING CENTER
POLICIES, FEE SCHEDULES, & OFFICE HOURS
MARCH 2015

HOURS/CLOSURES

YEARLY CLOSURES:
• THE WEEK BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEARS.
• THE FOURTH WEEK OF JULY:

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page 4
In an interview with M. Sievers, he stated the decedent and their two children went on vacation to New York and Connecticut on June 26, 2015 for the decedent's grandmother's 75th birthday celebration.

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Sievers' family friend sheds new light on home's security system
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/30013123...w-light-on-homes-security-system#.VmwWako76rW

The Sievers family was on vacation in Connecticut before Teresa's death. The doctor returned to the home alone, earlier than the rest of the family.

It caused some to speculate if that was planned. Teresa's sister confirms it was planned at least a month in advance.

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page54
Mark Sievers' phone download showed evidence of using secondary "burner" type phones between himself and Curtis Wright since the beginning of May 2015

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[CeaElle]

Any update on MS releasing medical records?

As of today's date, I have not received mine!

 

[relay]

Quoted by CeaElle: As of today's date, I have not received mine!

I believe that MS threw out computers, including the hard drives to destroy evidence, and now I wonder if patient records were somehow falsified. For example, is it possible that MS may have written prescriptions using patient information but that he stole and/or sold said medications to others for a nice profit? I think there is likely more evidence on those hard drives that were VERY important and troublesome for poor old Marky, but he must have known that not getting patient records Dr. Teresa's patients would in time be a problem. Yet, he hasn't done it making me really wonder why not.

 

[dmac55]

As of today's date, I have not received mine!

i am sorry for you and the rest of Dr. Sievers' patients - this is another reflection of who MS is as a person

irregardless of what else is going on in this case or in MS's life, that is not acceptable -
being the custodian of patient records is a very serious, important duty and not something he can do whenever he feels like it - there are laws governing this issue.

i think MS just doesn't care
if he cared, but didn't have access to the records, like he claimed in one of the emails to Dr. Sievers' patients, then there is protocol to handle that
jmo

this article is from 2 months ago, but i thought worth reposting:

Oct6
Sievers' husband tells patients he's working on records
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/30199924...-patients-hes-working-on-records#.VnBAU0orK70


Mark Sievers is asking patients to mail records requests and says he will process them as soon as possible. And if that doesn't yield timely satisfaction, attorney Scot Goldberg suggests further action.

"At the end of the day this is not a novel thing," Goldberg said. "The health department should be able to get in there and get those records. If they can't, go to Tallahassee, call your Congressman, call somebody to get that help."


"The records are essentially yours," Goldberg said. "They have to give you copies of anything you ask for."