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Mr Antwine was a FEDERAL parole officer. That means he would have worked with Garrido sometime between what? 1988 and 1998? So, maybe twenty two years ago? He is about 70 now, he would have been about 50 at that time, who knows how many cases he might have handled prior to that?

With all of that said, it would seem that Katie Callaway says that he was the parole officer she met with when Garrido was first paroled.

http://katiecallawayhall.bravejournal.com/entry/45788/
 
my bad.
so he was his parole officer around the time he kidnapped jaycee then.
 
i.b.nora said:
With all of that said, it would seem that Katie Callaway says that he was the parole officer she met with when Garrido was first paroled.

http://katiecallawayhall.bravejournal.com/entry/45788/
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Well, that answers any questions I had about how "responsible this person was". IMO, he is almost solely responsible because he is the one that should have put PG back in prison for violating before JC was even kidnapped. PG VIOLATED his parole by approaching KCH and Houston Antwine didn't even bother to investigate the validity of her complaint. If what KCH says is true and I really don't have any reason to doubt her.

He failed Katie, JC, JC's girls, JC's loved ones and we many never know how many others. How many other parolees were able to commit horrible crimes under his 'supervision'? How convenient that he 'can't recall'. Katie should sue him right along with JC & family for the years of mental anguish from not knowing when/if PG would approach her again. He should have revoked PG's parole and sent him back to serve the remainder of his sentence. All this guy had to do was look over the CCTV that I'm quite positive all casinos had, even "back then". But, instead, he did absolutely nothing to protect anyone from this violent criminal. In other words, he didn't do his JOB.

Seems to be the common excuse in this case, so maybe, Mr. Antwine caught the dementia 'bug', too. It's possible, but I doubt it. Didn't it at least jog his memory a bit when KCH came forward very early on with this story? How does one forget his parolee's victim calling to say that her attacker approached her while she was at work in a casino and they did nothing about it??

And then he sat back in his chair and very callously said "I can't believe that you're still worried about this guy."​
Real nice, Mr. Antwine. Real nice.
 
Tizzle said:
Well, that answers any questions I had about how "responsible this person was". IMO, he is almost solely responsible because he is the one that should have put PG back in prison for violating before JC was even kidnapped. PG VIOLATED his parole by approaching KCH and Houston Antwine didn't even bother to investigate the validity of her complaint. If what KCH says is true and I really don't have any reason to doubt her.

He failed Katie, JC, JC's girls, JC's loved ones and we many never know how many others. How many other parolees were able to commit horrible crimes under his 'supervision'? How convenient that he 'can't recall'. Katie should sue him right along with JC & family for the years of mental anguish from not knowing when/if PG would approach her again. He should have revoked PG's parole and sent him back to serve the remainder of his sentence. All this guy had to do was look over the CCTV that I'm quite positive all casinos had, even "back then". But, instead, he did absolutely nothing to protect anyone from this violent criminal. In other words, he didn't do his JOB.

Seems to be the common excuse in this case, so maybe, Mr. Antwine caught the dementia 'bug', too. It's possible, but I doubt it. Didn't it at least jog his memory a bit when KCH came forward very early on with this story? How does one forget his parolee's victim calling to say that her attacker approached her while she was at work in a casino and they did nothing about it??

And then he sat back in his chair and very callously said "I can't believe that you're still worried about this guy."​
Real nice, Mr. Antwine. Real nice.
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this post deserved so much more then 'thanks'.
great post tizz :dance:
 
Judge says state may have to release some Garrido parole documents in Jaycee Lee Dugard case
Published: Thursday, Feb. 4, 2010 - 3:56 pm

A Sacramento judge today issued a tentative ruling that would require state corrections officials to turn over certain parole documents on Phillip Garrido to The Bee and two other news organizations, and to provide other documents to him for review of whether they also can be released.

The ruling from Superior Court Judge Patrick Marlette stems from a lawsuit seeking access to the documents that was filed in December by The Bee, KCRA-TV (Channel 3) and the San Francisco Chronicle.

Corrections officials responded to the tentative ruling by asking for a hearing on the matter that will be held Friday afternoon.

The Bee has been seeking parole documents on Garrido since August, when he was arrested and charged in the 1991 kidnap of Jaycee Lee Dugard when she was 11. Dugard was found alive after 18 years in captivity and Garrido and his wife, Nancy, face charges that could send them to prison for life. Both have pleaded not guilty.

http://www.sacbee.com/latest/story/2514388.html
 
Tizzle said:
Well, that answers any questions I had about how "responsible this person was". IMO, he is almost solely responsible because he is the one that should have put PG back in prison for violating before JC was even kidnapped. PG VIOLATED his parole by approaching KCH and Houston Antwine didn't even bother to investigate the validity of her complaint. If what KCH says is true and I really don't have any reason to doubt her.

He failed Katie, JC, JC's girls, JC's loved ones and we many never know how many others. How many other parolees were able to commit horrible crimes under his 'supervision'? How convenient that he 'can't recall'. Katie should sue him right along with JC & family for the years of mental anguish from not knowing when/if PG would approach her again. He should have revoked PG's parole and sent him back to serve the remainder of his sentence. All this guy had to do was look over the CCTV that I'm quite positive all casinos had, even "back then". But, instead, he did absolutely nothing to protect anyone from this violent criminal. In other words, he didn't do his JOB.

Seems to be the common excuse in this case, so maybe, Mr. Antwine caught the dementia 'bug', too. It's possible, but I doubt it. Didn't it at least jog his memory a bit when KCH came forward very early on with this story? How does one forget his parolee's victim calling to say that her attacker approached her while she was at work in a casino and they did nothing about it??

And then he sat back in his chair and very callously said "I can't believe that you're still worried about this guy."​
Real nice, Mr. Antwine. Real nice.
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An aweful lot of assumptions there.

Firstly, we don't know what he did or didn't do about the report Katie made. If she is being truthfull and actually went and met him, there should be some sort of record to corroborate that, and as yet we have not seen any. Further, I don't think the PO is sole arbiter of whether parole gets revoked or not, there is likely some sort of process and some sort of evidentiary requirement for that to happen. How long was the interval between PG showing up at the casino and her reporting it and whatever investigation took place? By the time all that happened there quite likely was no evidence that parole had been breached, and it would take more than one allegation by Katie to change that. The parole office is not a victim support group, I doubt they are trained to be sensitive to those aspects when one comes visiting, and when they do an investigation it likely isn't in their mandate to keep the victims apprised of their findings. Remember, are tough cynical people who routinely deal with the worst of society, they are no pussycats, so it isn't surprising that she wasn't treated quite how she expected to be treated.

There may well have been an investigation of some sort that she was unaware of. However, we will likely never know since she obviously doesn't and the federals won't release the full case reports.

Secondly, there is the issue of how accurately Katie remembers that encounter at a personal level. She would have been frightened, angry and frustrated, emotions that are not noted for making accurate recollections of conversations. For example, in her blog she writes "Conveniently enough, Houston Antwine doesn't even remember ever handling a sex offender caseload.", but, in the interview he never said that, what he said was that he didn't remember having Garrido on his casefile. If she can't remember accurately stuff she heard a few days ago how much faith can you put in her recollection of a conversation 22 years prior to that given the emotions she would have been experiencing at the time and since then?
 
A parole officer can solely revoke one's parole. The parolee can appeal it. But if the parolee messes up, the parole officer can lock them back up. It is the purpose of their position.

Like I said, I have no reason to doubt KCH. You can't justify it, he didn't do his job. Period. If he had, JC probably wouldn't have been abducted, we wouldn't know who she is and thus wouldn't be having this conversation.

If there had been an investigation, I think KCH would have known and you would think Mr. Antwine would remember it also. Seems like nothing was done about PG's parole violation, to me. I don't care about their sensitivity level, when your parolee's victim tells you she has been contacted by her attacker...YOU DO SOMETHING!
 
They wouldn't revoke it simply on the basis of one allegation if there was nothing to corroborate it. Like I said, we don't know what they did or didn't do about the report. An example of how they would operate in that sort of situation are the events that played out immediately prior to Garido's arrest, where there were a series of progressive actions a few days prior to that, as spelled in the parole review report. If the PO made a few calls, spoke to Garrido, and was unable to get any further information, it would have been noted in his record and dropped. But unless we get to see that record we won't know what happened. It is unfair to say that Antwine did nothing when you don't know that for sure.

Hmm...thought of something else...let me check
 
I have a pretty good idea of "what he did or didn't do about the report", NOTHING. If he had, he would have looked over video from the casino to see if it was or wasn't PG. He didn't. If he had investigated and found that KCH had made a mistake, you would think he would have followed up with her and let her know. Yet, she says nothing about this. If he had investigated and found that it was, in fact, PG that was at her casino, why wasn't he arrested? Either way, Antwine didn't do his JOB.

She says he did nothing. I'm going with her account, a person that was there, over what you think 'might or might not' have happened since you weren't. Sorry.

How would they find anything to corroborate an allegation if they didn't even investigate said allegation?
 
But she wasn't there. They didn't contact her so she has no way of knowing what they did or didn't do. She is making the assumption that they did nothing.

Oh, I expect those tapes get recorded over periodically like most CCTV systems, so there may not have been anything to find. That is why the interval between the various timepoints is important. Plus, since it wasn't on PG's residence, they would have needed a warrant to get them.
 
Oh, what I was looking up. From the Inspector General's special report:

"in July 2008, a regional sex offender taskforce searched Garrido’s residence during a sweep of known sex offenders living in Antioch."

Just prior to that the report also records numerous queries into the law enforcement database about Garrido. But in 2006 the report about people living in tents in the back yard was entered into the same database, so why didn't the task force go looking for the tents (since they had obviously been researching Garrido prior to the raid)?
 
I wonder if Antwine is also the Federal Parole Agent identified in I.G. Shaw's report as the one that inspected the sound proof shed?
 
kbl8201 said:
cant recall. how convienent.
maybe its cause he was getting high with garrido?
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:waitasec: something to ponder. LOL
With a head of police who was a sex deviant - I can certainly believe this for sure.
 
Tizzle said:
Well, that answers any questions I had about how "responsible this person was". IMO, he is almost solely responsible because he is the one that should have put PG back in prison for violating before JC was even kidnapped. PG VIOLATED his parole by approaching KCH and Houston Antwine didn't even bother to investigate the validity of her complaint. If what KCH says is true and I really don't have any reason to doubt her.

He failed Katie, JC, JC's girls, JC's loved ones and we many never know how many others. How many other parolees were able to commit horrible crimes under his 'supervision'? How convenient that he 'can't recall'. Katie should sue him right along with JC & family for the years of mental anguish from not knowing when/if PG would approach her again. He should have revoked PG's parole and sent him back to serve the remainder of his sentence. All this guy had to do was look over the CCTV that I'm quite positive all casinos had, even "back then". But, instead, he did absolutely nothing to protect anyone from this violent criminal. In other words, he didn't do his JOB.

Seems to be the common excuse in this case, so maybe, Mr. Antwine caught the dementia 'bug', too. It's possible, but I doubt it. Didn't it at least jog his memory a bit when KCH came forward very early on with this story? How does one forget his parolee's victim calling to say that her attacker approached her while she was at work in a casino and they did nothing about it??

And then he sat back in his chair and very callously said "I can't believe that you're still worried about this guy."​
Real nice, Mr. Antwine. Real nice.
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GOOD POST :clap: :clap:
 
Natal said:
Oh, what I was looking up. From the Inspector General's special report:

"in July 2008, a regional sex offender taskforce searched Garrido’s residence during a sweep of known sex offenders living in Antioch."

Just prior to that the report also records numerous queries into the law enforcement database about Garrido. But in 2006 the report about people living in tents in the back yard was entered into the same database, so why didn't the task force go looking for the tents (since they had obviously been researching Garrido prior to the raid)?
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Natal it is clear now that much of the LE force at CCC was corrupt and the head of them was
a sexual deviant who abused his power, I think he was a rapist too. It is not a secret.
what they filed, did not file, reported, did not report it's All BS to cover their own back,
they have no ethics, morals, or responsibility to the public...
That is not to say they don't have A hand full of decent people in CCC LE.
Corruption was ramped from the top on down......

For you to stand up for any of them on any level at all baffles me.
I do not get it, :waitasec: WHO would stand up for any of them? and why?

The police have said they failed JC, because they could not Begin to cover their tracks,
If they could have covered up they sure would have. The PO has also apologized for failing JC.
Why do you keep on standing up for any of the losers :loser: :waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec:
CCC is known to be one of the worst.
 
songline said:
Natal it is clear now that much of the LE force at CCC was corrupt and the head of them was
a sexual deviant who abused his power, I think he was a rapist too. It is not a secret.
what they filed, did not file, reported, did not report it's All BS to cover their own back,
they have no ethics, morals, or responsibility to the public...
That is not to say they don't have A hand full of decent people in CCC LE.
Corruption was ramped from the top on down......

For you to stand up for any of them on any level at all baffles me.
I do not get it, :waitasec: WHO would stand up for any of them? and why?

The police have said they failed JC, because they could not Begin to cover their tracks,
If they could have covered up they sure would have. The PO has also apologized for failing JC.
Why do you keep on standing up for any of the losers :loser: :waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec:
CCC is known to be one of the worst.
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Not sure who you think I was "standing up for", since I was asking the question about why the joint task force didn't look into something they obviously should have picked up in their search of the records.

As far as you allegation of corruption is concerned (do you have anything to that back up in the specific case or are you just making that up?) the task force is a multi angency one, so if there was corruption involved it would have to require a widespread conspiracy across the entire civil service to protect one low life nobody. Sorry if I sound unconvinced in the absence of any evidence. Really, I'm sorry. Really.:innocent:
 
Natal said:
Not sure who you think I was "standing up for", since I was asking the question about why the joint task force didn't look into something they obviously should have picked up in their search of the records.

As far as you allegation of corruption is concerned (do you have anything to that back up in the specific case or are you just making that up?) the task force is a multi angency one, so if there was corruption involved it would have to require a widespread conspiracy across the entire civil service to protect one low life nobody. Sorry if I sound unconvinced in the absence of any evidence. Really, I'm sorry. Really.:innocent:
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I think you did read the CCCounty thread and that the head of the police dept was a perp himself...
There are many threads there. It is here somewhere. :innocent:
I was following your conversation with Tizzel. I did agree with her/him.
Review what you said and take it from there, and I am not here to argue, but I can only be
on one side of this fence. ALL JC's side. I have no allegation...The CCC LE sucks. their head
was stripped of his badge, and is in jail.
 
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