Ebola outbreak - general thread #6

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Over there -They spend less than $100 per year per person on health care

Six African countries have already banned or suspended flights from Liberia, Guinea, and Sierra Leone, and others have instituted other travel restrictions

travel bans are appealing because they make people feel safe. But she argued that safety could be an illusion.

"It gives us the false assurance that we can ignore the problems that are happening in Africa," she said. "At the end of the day, we can't. And our own safety depends on our getting it right there, not on building the walls."

Many public health experts who oppose the travel ban argue that it's simply not practica

doesn't support a travel ban right now because people with financial means can travel to an intermediate country before entering the United States. West Africa's many porous borders make such travel even easier, he said.

A ban could also encourage people to lie about where they have been,

international volunteers who go into West Africa to help treat Ebola patients need to know that they can get back out... travel restrictions might make volunteers think twice,

77 people have been blocked from leaving the affected countries since this summer

None of them tested positive for Ebola, he said, adding that they most likely had malaria, a mosquito-borne disease that shares early symptoms with Ebola.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141007-ebola-travel-ban-restrictions-health-world/
What about a 21 day quarantine by the volunteers when they come back? I know it would be a hassle for them, but it would be worth it to avoid risking lives here.

I suppose instead of travel ban on everyone from Liberia, you could also impose a 21 day quarantine on them also. Just throwing that out there. I'm sure it's already been said before in this thread.
 
This is so confusing to me. Maybe to keep the EBV cases centralized? Maybe to decontaminate completely Presby? Idk, hypothetical.

They don't want to risk losing her....bad PR. JMO
 
CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) -- Three people were removed from an incoming plane at Yeager Airport very early Thursday morning after a passenger feared they may have been exposed to Ebola

Those officials determined there was no credible threat of Ebola exposure.

http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/...ane-At-Yeager-After-Ebola-Fear-279387812.html

I'm glad now I don't fly. moo

The anxiety for the people that found out they were on the same flight as nurse #2 is also a health concern IMO. Some people don't take anxiety too well and the anxiety alone could cause additional health problems.

Hopefully nobody had chest pains or anything of that sort.

I'm not sure if the seat# was released by the media or not. Imagine if you found out you were on the same seat in the flight following right after her flight. I think I read where there was quite a few flights after she got off that plane.

Some people take it better than others and can brush it off. Not me though. I admit I am a nervous nelly when it comes to this sort of thing.

Even before this Ebola outbreak, whenever I have to fly, I immediately reach up to turn off that little air nozzle that blows out re-circulated air throughout the plane. When I was little, I would love to turn that on to get some air going. Now, I turn it off whenever I am on flights as I dont want to catch any colds or flus. If I was on the same flight as the nurse or even the following flights, I would be very nervous and upset over it to the point it would make me ill in a sort of way. I would probably end up going to a doctor to try to get some medicine just to calm my nerves. It makes me wonder how many people on those followon flights did the same with their doctors.
 
My local NBC news just announced that the Today show will have an interview with a nurse from Texas Health Presbyterian. The nurse is not one of those who cared for any of the Ebola patients, but she is supposedly going to 'spill the beans' about conditions at the hospital.

I have been trying to edit this because of my poor English usage.
 
Cute Bentley in bath photo is NOT Bentley. Regardless I see it as a very GOOD mistake, Bentley is becoming well known and adored which ensures that nothing bad can happen to him without causing a PR nightmare. I hope he is in responsible hands, the video of him in his quarantine crate shows he was wearing a choke and leash, no sensible person would crate a dog with a choke and leash on! They could strangle to death.

Dog in Ebola Quarantine Isn’t Adorable Dog in Bath Photo, Remains Cute Nonetheless

The bath photo had also been circulating on Pinterest, and Pham pinned it to her board, along with other snapshots of anonymous Cavalier King Charles Spaniels.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_t...oto_of_bentley_the_dog_being_quarantined.html

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CDC considers adding names of health workers monitored for Ebola to no-fly list

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...es-people-monitored-for-ebola-to-no-fly-list/

"Considering" ? How about just do it.
It seems to me that the CDC and the whole Ebola response continues to not error on the side of safety. I honestly don't think they fully understood the severity of this disease at first or how easy it is to catch it. The 1 CDC person on the news that I saw from the beginning just seemed to not have the right attitiude on this from the very beginning. It seems instead of always erroring on side of safety, it was just the opposite and doing as little as possible to not inconvenience anyone like forced travel bans or necessary quaranteens or real hands-on monitoring.

I think a requirement for the CDC chief should be to go to Africa and visit a clinic and watch how the disease attacks people so quickly and results in death within a week for roughly 1/2 or more of its patients. Perhaps if he was able to witness its devastation, he would start to error on side of safety instead of other way around.
 
Oh I hear ya Hatfield, delay delay delay, stall, stall stall, why I do not know, maybe they think it will just go away by itself. jmo idk
 
This is my opinion only, but it appears to me that a certain amount of transmission is being sought in order to test our response readiness. Lack of true quarantines and inadequate protective gear as well as removal protocols point to this, because I refuse to believe that those tasked with determining best practices could be so idiotic.

Who would seek such transmission? It's far more likely that people have failed to obey best practices. No one (other than someone who is criminally insane) would seek to deliberately introduce this disease into our society.
 
True! But no matter how much cleaning is done, I think it will always be known as the "Ebola Plane" LOL

I would not doubt if they end up changing the flight numbers too so people wont know which plane it was. I am going to take a bet that the flight# she was on gets retired never to be used again.
 
Eric King @EricKingNBC5 · 38m38 minutes ago

Dallas Nurse from TX health Presby says- We never talked about #ebola and probably should have.We had an optional seminar

TX presby nurse Brianna Aguirre- There was no special gear. we did not know what to do with #duncan's lab specimens

Brianna Aguirre did not treat #thomasericduncan. has worked for TX presby for 3yrs. loves job.

Brianna Aguirre- wore suits that exposed neck. "I threw a fit."

the #dallasebola interview that changes everything. TX Nurse speaks out on treatment of #Duncan -report coming now..

Brianna Aguirre- I'm very concerned about losing my job. it's the best job i've ever had.

Dallas Nurse says:We never talked about #ebola before #thomasericduncan - http://www.today.com/health/dallas-nurse-we-never-talked-about-ebola-thomas-eric-duncan-2D80220579 …

Nurse at @texashealth says she can no longer defend #Dallas hospital over #Ebola response http://www.today.com/video/today/56243958 …

The interview w/TX Health Pres nurse Brianna Aguirre is #EXCLUSIVE to #NBC @TODAYshow @NBCDFW Watch Here http://www.today.com/health/dallas-nurse-we-never-talked-about-ebola-thomas-eric-duncan-2D80220579 …

 
The REALLY scary thing is the guys in suits KNEW better and still didn't tell the man to keep his distance! Was that one of the hospital staff? Or airline management?

I don't know who he is, but it appears by his belt buckle that he has been to a rodeo or two. jmo idk
 
Eric King @EricKingNBC5 · 38m38 minutes ago

Dallas Nurse from TX health Presby says- We never talked about #ebola and probably should have.We had an optional seminar

TX presby nurse Brianna Aguirre- There was no special gear. we did not know what to do with #duncan's lab specimens

Brianna Aguirre did not treat #thomasericduncan. has worked for TX presby for 3yrs. loves job.

Brianna Aguirre- wore suits that exposed neck. "I threw a fit."

the #dallasebola interview that changes everything. TX Nurse speaks out on treatment of #Duncan -report coming now..

Brianna Aguirre- I'm very concerned about losing my job. it's the best job i've ever had.

Dallas Nurse says:We never talked about #ebola before #thomasericduncan - http://www.today.com/health/dallas-nurse-we-never-talked-about-ebola-thomas-eric-duncan-2D80220579 …

Nurse at @texashealth says she can no longer defend #Dallas hospital over #Ebola response http://www.today.com/video/today/56243958 …

The interview w/TX Health Pres nurse Brianna Aguirre is #EXCLUSIVE to #NBC @TODAYshow @NBCDFW Watch Here http://www.today.com/health/dallas-nurse-we-never-talked-about-ebola-thomas-eric-duncan-2D80220579 …


I commend her for telling it like it is. If the hospital officials would just be honest with folks instead of putting their own spin on things, I honestly feel that nobody (like this nurse) would have had to come out to give the "real story".

Why cant the hospital officials just be honest and open with people that they screwed up, apologize, and say they are making huge changes to do it correctly if there is ever another case. If they would have done that from the beginning, then I almost guarantee there would not be a need for nurses like this to give the real story.

Dont they realize when they are putting out their spin that all the employees are listening and realizing its a bunch of BS, and they get angry about it, and finally someone is going to give the real story. Again, just no common sense for a lot of the officials I have seen in the news.

When are they going to learn that people can handle the truth and people are generally very forgiving if they are just told the truth about things.
 
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