Media keeps doing this!
Using word "explosion.
Decompression is an explosion.
Decompression as result of fire , is a decompression.
A small bomb results in a decompression.
Metal fatigue results in decompression.
The only question imo is
what caused the decompression.
They were dealing with a decompression of the jetliner, but why?
That is the answer imo
It is with much regret that I must share that a company has offered the airlines totally free real time monitoring since 2014.
April 17, 2014 10:24 a.m. ET
LONDON—Satellite communications company Inmarsat PLC plans to offer basic tracking services free of charge to airlines, its chairman said, in the strongest sign yet of the aerospace industry's intentions to enhance monitoring abilities for commercial jets after the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.
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Thank you for this - I was wrong about it being Greece ATC as it was really Egypt ATC. I haven't read anything that the decent was related to the plane invading another's airspace. Cariis, is that your interpretation or did you actually get that from somewhere? Or are you thinking of a scenario in which a passenger plane might be shot down intentionally without it actually being terrorism?
Hi Jersey!
The ACARS spun me around! A plane blown up by a bomb at 37000 cant transmit ACARS, its in pieces falling to the ground.
And the ACARS was perfect for explosive for sudden rapid decompression - small bomb, or metal faitgue.
My take is media being blowm away (sorry for word choice) that there was no distress call, which leads them directly to terrorism is just not a fair conclusion.
Rarely is there a for lack of a word I hate in jetliner age, a distress call. If we go with there was dialog with traffic control telling them , for whatever reason , that they were in the middle of a rapid descent, that is what they must do. They could have gotten it under control , and if they did not tell ATC they were diving crashed into another aircraft and been dead.
My thing is ATC I have to descend thats it.
QUOTE=gregjrichards;12582184]What motive do these people have to lie about this? I am very suspicious of the Egyptian governments 360 degree turns from infomration that is being released.
Thanks everyone for all your posts with news updates and discussion it is interesting to read all the information and your different points of view.[/QUOTE]
I so agree greg , enough, sounds rough, you insurance will pay for whatever - quit this bull - , and yes (MO) if you killed all these people for running your machine into the ground, while not doing metal fatigue testing , then ya all caught and pay for it --enough.
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The only thing I can think of is that Egypt has been hit really hard recently and this disaster could pose a catastrophic hit to their tourism industry. They make millions upon millions during the sunniest season due to the tourism industry. I thought I read yesterday that their economy has suffered greatly from the last most recent incident. Is it possible that maybe Egypt is trying to bide time to investigate and put together a plan for caturing those responsible? Or maybe there are other threats to come so they could be investigating so as not to alert the responsible parties.
Spin it into confusion - media goes away ........all is well...............
It just doesn't seem right to
cast doubt on the pilots when in fact it initially appeared that they were in distress and attempting to rectify the situation. It just looks like their families are going through hell right now and nothing points to them being terrorists or uber political prior to this disaster. If they are innocent of any and all wrongdoing, then speculation surrounding them only victimizes their families more. I just can't help but feel sad for them.
http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-egyptair-funeral-20160522-snap-story.html
'Mohamed was a good pilot,' father of EgyptAir captain says. 'And he knows God'
MAY 22, 2016, 3:42 PM / REPORTING FROM CAIRO
Shashank Bengali
Agree unless ACARS is an internet fraud, these folks were dealing with some stuff. My deal is the notion of the fire sensers going off - when in fact it was explosive decompression as a result of metal fatigue.
A "fire" in the avionics bay and forward lav, would not cause, at that point in time, cockpit windows to "do" anything. Explossive demompression , however, would moo
I mean, I can track my husband with his phone to know when he's cheating on his diet. Buuuut.... the military cannot find a black box.
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Brillant post - just for us - how bad is he cheating - double whopper or just a whopper!!
Ahh cannot find a black box. lets just forget this they could find an A320 or a triple 7 MAL .............its a jokeamd IMO its al cause the media does not ask real questions - they get away with it
Exactly! Furthermore, with all the spying every nation in the world is involved in right now, and considering all the satellites pinpointed towards the Middle East, how in the hell does NOBODY have the EXACT (not approximate) location of these blackboxes? Plus, with the Mediterranean Sea having incidents of pirating, how could the surrounding governments not have drone footage of this plane? Isn't Crete right there nearby?
IMO they do --its all geopolitical cra*
Thinking that if they can identify the human remains, of that particular passenger, they will also be able to pinpoint where the ( potential ) explosion took place, maybe even who ( if applicable ) is responsible, imo.
rbbm.
http://cnews.canoe.com/CNEWS/World/2016/05/24/22636006.html
Ah ha, but was that a bomb explosion, or a sudden decompression. Earlier post , on human remains no sign of bomb residue. Thus far none. Explsion yes, bomb no..............
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www.cnn.com/2016/05/24/middleeast/egyptair-flight-804-main/index.html
EgyptAir Flight 804: Conflicting reports over final moments
By Michael Pearson, CNN
Updated 9:56 AM ET, Tue May 24, 2016
The 360 turn is BS. Swept back jetliners can not do that - peroid- it is a pysics impossiblity, they would stall before half of the turn is done , and start going down. The 360 nonsense, is the start of s spiral stall
I wish i could come up with a visual I shall try! Pretend we are a satellite looking
down on the plane. When it stalls and starts to spiral down from
above it looks like a 360. In reality it is a spiral, so the turns are actually at lower altudes - but from above it looks like a turn when it is a spiral DOWN
I do not know if I described it right - the key deal is those conclusions (360 turn) are from above the aircraft. If we had a camera, at level, we would see the plane changing direction (circles) but as it goes down- not a 360 - she is spiraling down, which are circles,but going down , from above it looks like 360's moo