GUILTY FL – Jordan Belliveau, 2, Largo, 1 SEP 2018 #2 *mother arrested*

[cuffem]

A raffle and selling tshirts and ribbons.Certain people did not attend, in my opinion, because media would be asking questions.

 

[Bravo]

Vigil was bizarre. I watched all cuz I expected a weanie wagon to roll in. Heartbreaking case. He had a chance in life with his Foster Family who were the real Parents who loved and cared for this little man. They must be beyond devastated. Senseless!!!!

 

[MsPooh]

A raffle and selling tshirts and ribbons.Certain people did not attend, in my opinion, because media would be asking questions.

This is exactly what I was talking about earlier, I am sure all funds will be funneled directly to those who shall not be named....I had a hard time not looking at all the kids there and wondering what any of them may be going through themselves.

 

[cuffem]

This is exactly what I was talking about earlier, I am sure all funds will be funneled directly to those who shall not be named....I had a hard time not looking at all the kids there and wondering what any of them may be going through themselves.

The money collected is coming from people who can not afford to be giving it away.I thought I read the funeral was being offered for free from a funeral home.

 

[Stunned]

I felt sorry for the father even while I watched him driving around smoking a blunt. Now the only ones I feel sorry for are the foster\real family and Jordan. NO ONE ELSE. Give the new baby to them.

 

[haven71]

I felt sorry for the father even while I watched him driving around smoking a blunt. Now the only ones I feel sorry for are the foster\real family and Jordan. NO ONE ELSE. Give the new baby to them.

Same here!!!

 

[Jo in Calif]

The money collected is coming from people who can not afford to be giving it away.I thought I read the funeral was being offered for free from a funeral home.

I believe it is.
My guess is the family is so distraught they can’t go out and look for work.

 

[cuffem]

I felt sorry for the father even while I watched him driving around smoking a blunt. Now the only ones I feel sorry for are the foster\real family and Jordan. NO ONE ELSE. Give the new baby to them.

I think LE will be watching this group and their activities.Reminds me so much of Haleigh Cummings family and look where they are now.

 

[SeesSeas]

A 3rd charge has been added - FLSE INFO TO LAW ENFORC DURING INVESTIGATION - FELONY - 1ST DEGREE

Unfortunately, the court docket is no longer accessible online - Access to this case is limited.
I don't know the reason for the limited access, but am guessing it is because Charisse is pregnant and there will be docket entries regarding her pregnancy and the unborn child that would be deemed confidential.
I had dealt with similar limited access in another Pinellas County case. Documents which aren't confidential can be accessed by citizens in person at the courthouse.

https://ccmspa.pinellascounty.org/PublicAccess/default.aspx
STATE OF FLORIDA vs. STINSON, CHARISSE
Charges: STINSON, CHARISSE Statute Level Date
1. AGGRAVATED CHILD ABUSE 827.03(3) FELONY - 2ND DEGREE 09/02/2018
2. MURDER IN THE 1ST DEG (CAPITAL FELONY) 782.04(1)(A)(2) FELONY - CAPITAL 09/02/2018
3. FLSE INFO TO LAW ENFORC DURING INVESTIGATION 999999 FELONY - 1ST DEGREE 09/02/2018
Access to this case is limited.

 

[SeesSeas]

Guardian objected to Largo boy being reunited with mother
Published: September 6, 2018
Updated: September 6, 2018 at 09:05 PM
LARGO — Five months before Jordan Belliveau was found dead, the person tasked with advocating for his best interests told a magistrate that the toddler should not be returned to his mother.

Her objection was overruled.
[...]
The more details emerge about the boy’s short life, the clearer his extensive involvement with the complex child welfare system becomes, raising questions about why he was returned to his parents and how he fell through the cracks. Even as Jordan’s guardian ad litem fought against his return to his mother out of foster care, records show, a case manager for a state contractor pushed for the boy to be given back to Stinson.
[...]
In April, almost a year and a half into foster care, a court considered whether Jordan should be returned to Stinson.

According to court records, child welfare workers inspected and approved Stinson’s home.

But the child’s guardian ad litem raised another concern: there was no documentation Stinson had been going to counseling. While Stinson testified that she had been going since November 2017, neither the guardian nor child welfare workers obtained the records. Still, the guardian’s objection about the process was overruled by a magistrate overseeing the case. The magistrate’s name was not listed in the report beyond an indecipherable signature.

Mother and son were reunited on May 31, and father and son not long after on June 11.

"No evidence was presented to show that the circumstances that caused the out-of-home placement have not been remedied to the extent that the return of the child to the mother’s care with an in-home safety plan ... will not be detrimental to the child’s safety," the court order says.
[...]

 

[Alethea]

I'm glad the prosecutor added a felony charge for lying to LE. It wastes time and resources sending them on wild goose chases. You can decline to cooperate without providing false information.

 

[MsMarple]

CS' attorney will probably suggest that LE interrogation was improper and that she was forced into a confession, or something along those lines

At least in this case all the evidence points directly at mom. In cases where a boyfriend/father was in the house it can get complicated when trying to prove who did what.

And those reports!! I do understand that there are people less fortunate than me and my family, those who must live in rough neighborhoods and have to go through life with crime and violence being everyday occurrences but this particular family made choices that created a dangerous, toxic environment for little Jordan.

With so many people living under one roof Jordan should have been safe and protected; instead he was treated as having no value to the selfish adults in the home. MOO.

http://mediaassets.abcactionnews.co...93.1123261311.1536210046-607030794.1535851400
http://mediaassets.abcactionnews.co...60.1123261311.1536210046-607030794.1535851400
http://mediaassets.abcactionnews.co...21.1123261311.1536210046-607030794.1535851400

 

[MsMarple]

[Foster care advocate] Going believes the system favors reunification because it's the easiest way to achieve permanent placement goals.

The federal government says children in the foster care system should be placed permanently within 24 months.

“There is a number that needs to be met for that in order for a state to be receiving federal funds,” Going said.
...
Authorities took Jordan away from his parents shortly after his birth in 2016 over drugs, gang activity and domestic violence in his home.

But on July 16 of this year, a Pinellas circuit court judge signed a permanent custody order returning Jordan to his parents at the recommendation of child welfare agencies.

That order was signed two days after his father was arrested for allegedly battering his mother in Jordan's presence.

More at the link. So the state receives funds for permanently placing a child within 24 hours and family reunification is the easiest way to achieve that goal. FWIW, the more cases I follow here the more I believe that in the majority of them reunification is the worst option. JMOO.
Foster care advocate says agencies made errors in returning 2-year-old Largo boy to unstable parents

 

[PommyMommy]

I can’t believe I watched that entire thing. I’m still wondering what I watched. What in tarnation was that?

I don't know, @imstilla.grandma but it sure is good to see you. I hope you are well.

 

[Stunned]

I believe it is.
My guess is the family is so distraught they can’t go out and look for work.

Yeah.. that’s it!

 

[Stunned]

I think LE will be watching this group and their activities.Reminds me so much of Haleigh Cummings family and look where they are now.

Yes it does.

 

[Stunned]

I believe it is.
My guess is the family is so distraught they can’t go out and look for work.

Yeah, I hate that for them. When my husband died, I had maybe 2 minutes to think ahead to his children.

 

[Alethea]

More at the link. So the state receives funds for permanently placing a child within 24 hours and family reunification is the easiest way to achieve that goal. FWIW, the more cases I follow here the more I believe that in the majority of them reunification is the worst option. JMOO.
Foster care advocate says agencies made errors in returning 2-year-old Largo boy to unstable parents

Permanent placement is the best option...with a stable, loving, crime-free, drug-free family that wants and can comfortably support a baby. The foster care horror stories are always 10 year olds with RAD who have never known a day of love and safety in their life who have a very hard time adjusting to a foster family and act out repeatedly. Allowing infants and toddlers to stay in abusive situations until they're nearly irreparably scarred and then dumping them on foster families without support or training is the worst of all situations.

 

[Jo in Calif]

Guardian objected to Largo boy being reunited with mother
Published: September 6, 2018
Updated: September 6, 2018 at 09:05 PM
LARGO — Five months before Jordan Belliveau was found dead, the person tasked with advocating for his best interests told a magistrate that the toddler should not be returned to his mother.

Her objection was overruled.
[...]
The more details emerge about the boy’s short life, the clearer his extensive involvement with the complex child welfare system becomes, raising questions about why he was returned to his parents and how he fell through the cracks. Even as Jordan’s guardian ad litem fought against his return to his mother out of foster care, records show, a case manager for a state contractor pushed for the boy to be given back to Stinson.
[...]
In April, almost a year and a half into foster care, a court considered whether Jordan should be returned to Stinson.

According to court records, child welfare workers inspected and approved Stinson’s home.

But the child’s guardian ad litem raised another concern: there was no documentation Stinson had been going to counseling. While Stinson testified that she had been going since November 2017, neither the guardian nor child welfare workers obtained the records. Still, the guardian’s objection about the process was overruled by a magistrate overseeing the case. The magistrate’s name was not listed in the report beyond an indecipherable signature.

Mother and son were reunited on May 31, and father and son not long after on June 11.

"No evidence was presented to show that the circumstances that caused the out-of-home placement have not been remedied to the extent that the return of the child to the mother’s care with an in-home safety plan ... will not be detrimental to the child’s safety," the court order says.
[...]

So now that I have seen the reports that made them rip that baby out of that loving home and returned him to that cesspool I think I am going to puke in my trash can.

 

[Jo in Calif]

I can't figure how the case manager saw Jordan on the Fri before he was murdered if he was asleep, how does he know what condition that baby was in? Was he just worried about the bawling mother?

According to the Sheriff’s Office records, Stinson’s case manager with Directions said he last saw Jordan on Friday, and Stinson "was crying and upset because the father to the child is not helping her out and she is in the process of being evicted from her apartment." The case manager said he spoke to her for an hour and a half, and after, Stinson "appeared to be much calmer."

Jordan was asleep, the manager said, according to the note. The case manager said he was visiting the family twice a week.

Guardian objected to Largo boy being reunited with mother