I don't know if she did commit the murder by herself and it would be a coin toss right now because I'm assuming no one, not even the police, know if she did or didn't. I'm assuming the police don't know because if they did know for certain, I would think someone else would be at the Orient Hotel with her right now. The gun belongs to Dorice. She had the gun, the murder weapon, long after the murder was committed, way into January 2010 when she gave it to the police informant. She knew where the body was buried and it was buried on land her company purchased by American Medical Professionals (unsure if it was LLC or the PEO, don't know if that was mentioned, and not sure if Dorice or Shar owned the company at that time. Property was in Shar's name.). She bought the machine to dig the hole where Abraham was buried. She hired her husband to dig the hole. She had the motive to kill him - his assets wound up in her possession. She had removed money from his bank account without telling him and told Judith Haggins not to let him go to the bank so he would not find out. She never paid him for the house or the assignments, which eventually he would figure out and want to know where his money was. Most of his assets seem to all go back to or through her. If someone else was involved, I would think some of the assets would have made it their way or else why would they have murdered him? What would their motive have been? Shoot him with Dorice's gun, give her back the gun, and then leave without any payoff? How likely is that? She alone was on the video tape with Abraham that suggests she was attempting to make it seem he wanted to "disappear", it certainly appears self-serving in hind-signt and she even said she made the video tape "to protect herself". I'm assuming she needed to protect herself from a murder charge at a later date. She was the one running around trying to prove he was still alive and paying people to make false sitings. She was the one who was going to pay someone to move the body and take the fall for it. NO ONE ELSE has been that involved in this murder. The only thing the police have proof of seems to be who dug the hole and covered it, who made calls and delivered cards to Abraham's mother after the fact for money (paid by Dorice), and good old Howie with his false siting report to the police in October 2009 which he was so sure was Abraham at the time and now he thinks he just could have been wrong. Howard, I can't see how anyone would ever use you as their attorney again given your role in this murder. When I read in the paper that you spoke to him Oct. 2009 and he was fine, I had some hope that Abraham had been alive until that point because I figured a lawyer, an officer of the court, would not lie to the police about something like that, would not lie about his client. And you didn't even protect your client's interests when you transferred the property to Dorice by making sure that Abraham got the money for that property. I do hope the ethics board takes a good hard look at your actions and I hope the police can find a way to bring you to justice for your part in this as well.
She is a CNA and CNAs move people who are dead weight all the time:
https://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASINDI.ASP?LicId=288170&ProfNBR=4401
That license expires at the end of this year and oddly enough it is under Deedee E Donegan. It is amazing to me that she can just use the name Deedee when her maiden name is Dorice Emma Donegan as per her marriage certificate and I can find no legal change of name from Dorice to Deedee. Since she obviously does not like the name Dorice and since I obviously don't like her, I continue to use her correct name, Dorice, when I refer to her as it would appear she would not like it and I'd rather she not like me as much as I don't like her. So without a legal name change, how does she get away using her made up name on licenses and documents you would assume the state requires ID verification before the state hands out thoses licenses and issues those documents? So can anyone just use whatever name they want to get a CNA license? Get charged with elder abuse as a CNA, change your name, get a new license? I wonder what name she has on her driver's license.
Anyway, I digress. Point I am making is I do not know if Dorice committed this murder solo or not. But I 100% do believe that she could and that she would. Dorice loved money enough to kill for it. I don't think she would want to share that money or risk being blackmailed for it at a later date. It would seem from something that I read along the way that he was put in plastic and then wrapped in a rug. She had to move him next door to bury him if he was murdered in the red house, not that far, and not impossible. I believe that someone said one of the cars was sold right after that concrete went in and I hope the police are tracing down that car to luminol it. It can be traced through VIN #s to the current owner.
She has not blamed her ex-husband at all for this. In fact she went out of her way defending him on this site. And even when she was pointing fingers at her own son, she never blamed her ex-husband and you would think if he dug the hole he would have been the first one she implicated. Oddly enough, she did not. She blamed Cedric, his cousin; Howard Stitzel, his lawyer; her son; some unnamed drug dealers; and herself in self-defense. I believe if someone else was involved, she would not take the rap for this charge by herself. She would be implicating that person and providing evidence to police to take the heat off herself. This makes me somewhat more inclined to believe that she acted alone since she is not providing any evidence that anyone else committed this crime and why would she cover up a crime and have him buried if she did not commit the crime herself? Drug dealers or anyone else kills someone on my property, I'm calling 911 immediately and letting the police deal with it. I'm certainly not goiing to hide the crime. And if someone else killed him, how come she has the murder weapon? If she was so afraid of that person, then why would they give her the gun back? Yep, she could do it by herself.
I believe someone else could be involved in the murder, but I also believe that she could have done the whole thing by herself (with the exception of actually digging and filling the hole which she paid her husband to do). I'm just not at all willing to point fingers at anyone for murder if there is not some kind of evidence that they did it, and so far, the police don't even seem to be able to find evidence of that.
The financial crimes, I would think they have plenty of evidence to start arresting on those charges and I hope they don't go by the time limit they have to charge on that. I don't know what it is in FL.
Everyone is going to have an opinion on this, but can anyone else point to any evidence that would suggest anyone else pulled the trigger or participated in the actual murder?
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