FL - Dr Teresa Sievers, 46, murdered in home, Bonita Springs, June 2015 #3

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Oh you can absolutely sell your patient list. Just like any business can sell their email list. Happens all the time. I know quite a few doctors and other health care practitioners who have moved or retired and sold their practice/patient list. Doesn't mean anyone is required to stay as a patient.
I would say there is still some value with TS practice.
Of course I guess I am basing that on the Canadian health care system where doctors are really hard to come by. Does anyone know how difficult it is to get a new Doctor in Florida?

A Doctor cannot sell their Patient list, wrong!!! They can hire another Doctor to come in and take over but it is ultimately the patient who makes the decision to use a Doctor. And, Canada is way different than US. Doctors are easy to find but could be hard to find someone like Dr. Sievers as portrayed by her patients.
 
Darned if i know.. but if a doctor sells his practice and there is no patient list.. what is he selling? Space?

What happens if a clinic hires a new doctor to the team? Is he not allowed to look at medical information?

My doctor took last summer off, a doctor not attached to the clinic took over her patients, she had access to everything
 
Heres a thought. Could Dr Sievers sister be coming in to take over the practice?
 
Darned if i know.. but if a doctor sells his practice and there is no patient list.. what is he selling? Space?

Some of the patients will use the new doctor but some will not. Yes, the new Doctor is coming in with intentions to serve new patients and is NOT buying a Practice with the patients.
 
Helper9693 if you had to go back now would you go back there to Dr Sievers replacement or would you shop around for a new one?
I wasn't a current patient when she died. She taught me a lot, taught me what tests to insist on for my issues, helped me discover some underlying issues I had (my Vitamin D was 12..ouch!), offered supplements that didn't have Gluten, Soy, Corn and other ingredients that sent my Immune system into overdrive. That said. I found a Doctor who orders the tests I need. My needs from a Doctor these days are very few thanks to working with her. Many of those "clean" supplements she offered are now available online. She won't be an easy person to replace. That Doctor would have big shoes to fill...Not sure what people are doing. I think many are shopping for a new Doctor...because they will need prescriptions filled.
 
Keep in mind the patients not only lost their beloved Dr but also her assistant that they seemed like as well.
 
I have to reiterate that I know ZERO. I have seen websites that say, "We do not sell your information to others," or something close to that.

I would feel like a piece of furniture if I thought my doctor could sell his patient list. My doc did quit a few years ago, and I went and got my own different doctor. There was no recommendation.

Yikes, the thought of a doctor selling my information even to another doctor - IMMORAL, UNETHICAL and if it's not illegal it should be illegal! Even if my information wasn't sold, just my name, it could be enough for anyone else to make assumptions about my medical condition if I had one. If a doctor is a specialist or it's known they treat predominantly XYZ patients, that's pretty durned close to violating HIPPA if you ask me. :/
 
Yikes, the thought of a doctor selling my information even to another doctor - IMMORAL, UNETHICAL and if it's not illegal it should be illegal! Even if my information wasn't sold, just my name, it could be enough for anyone else to make assumptions about my medical condition if I had one. If a doctor is a specialist or it's known they treat predominantly XYZ patients, that's pretty durned close to violating HIPPA if you ask me. :/

It is not your information they are selling. It is the business. Which includes the patient list. Doesn't mean you have no choice in matter. You get to choose if you remain a patient to the new doctor.
 
Once again, the patient makes the decision to stay or go. Value that!!!

Yes. That is what I said in my original post that you were so quick to point out was wrong.
 
I would think that computer data would be backed up. That MS , as office Manager, would have access to those records. Now whether he has the legal right to distribute them to patients I don't know. He is a licensed LPN...so there's that. Not sure that makes a difference.

I didn't know he was an LPN, great for him! I don't know about FL, but in some states, Physicians Assistants and Nurse Practioners can write prescriptions provided it's under the umbrella of a Dr. In some practices, the doctor part of overseeing prescriptions is solely via telephone consult between doctor and the PA or NP. I haven't seen an MD in many years, just PAs and NPs. Cost effective for them, I'm guessing.
 
I honestly don't see how any Dr could come in and replace Dr Sievers. She seemed to have a very powerful connection with her clients that only she could have.

I agree. Also, aside from most likely not being able to "duplicate" that same strong and caring connection, how does bringing in another doctor help financially? I'm sure the bulk of the profits for the Sievers family were from Dr Sievers herself. Do we know if LS and others in the practice were paid directly by the patient or did they work for Dr Sievers and receive a salary or commission for their services?
 
Truly, I know zero about this, but why would a doctor want to buy the practice ?What does a doctor get that s/he could not get just by opening up his/her practice in the same leased space?

LOL, I now zero about it, too, but I can speculate up the wazoo.

It's like moving into a furnished home, but better because the staff is already trained (you may have to retrain if you see differently) and at least for the business part of it, it's a well-oiled machine that's been in business for several years. The doctoring part would be something he/she could focus on while gradually learning about the other working part: the administrative part of it.

Walking into a pre-existing practice even without patients: no staff hiring and training, advertising for staff and interviewing or hiring through an agency most likely and that cost at least a third on top of staffer wages. In this case since it's cash only, there's no billing patients or submitting paperwork to insurance to worry about (and pay staff for).

I thin about the super simple basic stuff, too. Office equipment and supplies are there, paper, pens, paper clips, computer and software, coffee machine. Yeah, I'm a basic kinda gal.

A downside I could see is that if you don't like someone or their work ethic it's really tough to fire someone. I mean emotionally, not legally. Even if it's totally warranted and necessary and you're the boss, it can be pretty awful.

The doctor-related items are in place, stethoscope, etc. without stress of having to make a list or look for someplace that sells a kit like "Doctor's Office in a Box" (hey, that's a cool idea for any type of business!) like the existing Bed in a Bag, or Kitchen in a Box for dorm or first apartments. :D

Some people would love walking into a preexisting situation, others (like me) would relish the thought of planning and setting up shop themselves.

The space already exists, no hunting real estate.

Basically, the staff will run itself at least for a while :D Awesome!
 
Yes. That is what I said in my original post that you were so quick to point out was wrong.

My point to you is this -- when a Doctor leaves a practice (dies, retires, etc.) there are strict laws that protect the patient in the United States that must be followed. If a Doctor sells his or her practice, a patient can choose to transfer their records to a new doctor elsewhere or stay with the practice and the Doctor that bought it.

The new Doctor does not get the Patient List automatically unless each patient has decided to stay. And, there is also a timeframe of thirty (30) days for the transfer of records that must be done. My apologies if I was too quick in pointing out the correct information.
 
Bottom line... health info is protected
Its up to the patient whether he or she chooses to stay or go
If he or she stays.. they sign to give access to all of their personal health information
 
So back to TS's practice

MS thinks its worth something. He is trying to keep it running, trying to or has hired another doctor
Does that mean he , MS, is still owner and the new doctor works for him or does he become an employee?
 
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