FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #5

[eyes4crime]

Thank you! I totally agree! Even the 1 on 1 counseling turns into a catch-22: the pedophile can talk about his urges all he wants, can outline fantasies, and unless he specifically points out a specific child - or one that can be reasonably identified ("my nextdoor neighbor"), the therapist can't go to the police.

I think the depo shot for chemical castration is the best way for them to get over their "urges."

We can only wish a treatment would be so easy. Research I'm familiar with - a shot of depo does NOT work..the urges and fantasies continue.

 

[Shutterfly]

:laugh:

I wonder where he gets his hair done???? lol Wonder if he admires p. spector? lol

:floorlaugh:

 

[eyes4crime]

Bad thanks but now can't get page to load to put info in. before I could put info in (name etc.) but would only sit and think... Its ok I am sure its not good charges..

The first time I tried the links they worked - now I get an error message. Perhaps at a certain time they close?

 

[joeskidbeck]

Mothers against predators is the group that is wearing purple and being at the checkpoints

I think in theory that this is an excellent idea; however, they need something a little more official than just wearing the color purple. Purple will only give the predators another tool with which to capture the children. If we teach them it's ok to go to an adult wearing purple for help, we may be sending them straight to harm's way. Wearing purple at the check points would be great, but there has to be a more official way to do it.

 

[Rhyme & Reason]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/special/somer/news-article.aspx?storyid=147128&catid=338#

http://www.amberalertgps.com

Handy little device except did anyone notice under the different types of alerts the Temperature Alert? They make it sound as though leaving children in a hot car is a normal thing!

"Set the hot and cold temperature thresholds for your AAGPS device easily from your computer. Receive a notification when your AAGPS temperature surpasses or drops below these thresholds. This feature is very critical when children are left in hot cars."

 

[MommaD]

I don't know if this is the right thread for what I want to say. If not, if another Somer T thread would be better, someone please direct me there....

First off, let me say, I feel like I going to sound like a bad person for this post, but I can't help myself.....

Somer's mom reminds me of Susan S.

In many other cases, much is made of the parents reactions (as IF there is such a thing as a "normal" reaction). And the first thing that seems to be pointed out is "crying/sobbing without benefit of real tears" Does it bother anyone else than Somer's Mom cries and sobs, yet never produces tears? She doesn't even try to fake it, by wiping her eyes, or blowing her nose....Anyone? And is the amount of time she spends in front of the news cameras bother anyone else???????

That's all I'll say about it for now. But can anyone relate to my uneasy feeling about Somer's Mom? If it's just me, then point it out, like I said, I feel bad for even mentioning it, but I can't help the uneasy way I feel....

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Ripley ... I have seen this mentioned a few times last couple days.. I understand where you all could see this.. I was like I don't see any tears .. but I said well look at her face swelled up from crying before she came out.. I don't know if you get cried out and just no tears anymore or if maybe from crying so much your tear ducks swell up just like her face was.. so I thought I would give her benefit of doubt.. I do know maybe she is at the angry stage now of grief.. so much emotions when things like this happen.. its up and down.. I know when I lost my mother couple years ago I walked in a cloud of haze.. I planned the funeral and all but I had so much to do I didn't have time to sit and just cry.. I don't even remember going to the viewing ....

I think DT is a strong woman.. has had to be strong .. I see her exhusband to be as kinda the wimpy type.. she was the one who held the family together and made all arrangements in that marriage.. jmo... So she is a take hold kinda woman and gets er done..

just my 2 cents as I questioned this too.. but then I thought of my mother and grand-daughters funerals and I see where ppl come from in grief..

I have had to be a strong person since I was 13yrs old. raised my 2 brothers and then started a family.. I pay our bills decide almost everything in our marriage for the last 34 yrs unless he wants a new toy and he is able to figure out how to get that dang toy. lol

ok enough of chit chat. but its nice .. burn out on these forums are not a good thing...

 

[MommaD]

Have we found the offender who has a white van who lives on Bay Circle, which is RIGHT BEHIND (.01 mile) the 1080 Gano address? I know we don't know they're specifically looking for one, but I heard that the other RSO was driving one and a white van was mentioned on the news yesterday. If we've seen this and I'm having a brain fart just kick me.

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=66005

I think in theory that this is an excellent idea; however, they need something a little more official than just wearing the color purple. Purple will only give the predators another tool with which to capture the children. If we teach them it's ok to go to an adult wearing purple for help, we may be sending them straight to harm's way. Wearing purple at the check points would be great, but there has to be a more official way to do it.

Some type of vest .. like the crossing guards. i haven't read article yet . I will but just wearing purple sounds dangerous...

 

[MommaD]

sorry ..... I am the double quote Queen by accident .. I am truly sorry.. that was for joeskidbeck about the purple color mad group..

 

[amysmom]

First Coast News is still the only news source reporting that GV is being questioned in the case and it's been 7 hours since they first reported that.

In video sis says bro told her he would find beer cans inside in the am so there had to be homeless person/teens in there..We dont know when this was but it sure looks like he was setting up his defense should he ever need it!

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/special/somer/news-article.aspx?storyid=147122&catid=338

 

[Hippy Chick]

I don't know if this is the right thread for what I want to say. If not, if another Somer T thread would be better, someone please direct me there....

First off, let me say, I feel like I going to sound like a bad person for this post, but I can't help myself.....

Somer's mom reminds me of Susan S.

In many other cases, much is made of the parents reactions (as IF there is such a thing as a "normal" reaction). And the first thing that seems to be pointed out is "crying/sobbing without benefit of real tears" Does it bother anyone else than Somer's Mom cries and sobs, yet never produces tears? She doesn't even try to fake it, by wiping her eyes, or blowing her nose....Anyone? And is the amount of time she spends in front of the news cameras bother anyone else???????

That's all I'll say about it for now. But can anyone relate to my uneasy feeling about Somer's Mom? If it's just me, then point it out, like I said, I feel bad for even mentioning it, but I can't help the uneasy way I feel....

I don't get amy vibe from her other than a grieving, heartbroke mom that has just found out her 7 y/o baby was in a garbage dump like trash. I think she has conducted herself with dignity and grace.

 

[CHICANA]

I wondered why there were so many sex offenders. Maybe they have them miscategorized. Being 19 and dating a 16 year old makes him a sex offender??? Good Lord, that's ridiculous to stick him with sex offender status fo the rest of his life.

Don't they have levels or classes of sex offenders?

They're all on the sex offender registry. Some are listed as predators. All I care to know about are the child molesters and violent offenders.
I was checking out the offenders in my area and one guy was on there for what appeared to be "mooning" an older lady. While this guy is obviously an idiot, being on the list of RSO's seems awfully harsh and IMO, misleading.

I want to know who to fear.

 

[not_my_kids]

Uniform directories are a great idea, but they would have to stop giving out plea deals, so the offenders are listed under the crime they committed, not the (usually) much lesser charge they pled guilty to.

 

[amysmom]

Have we found the offender who has a white van who lives on Bay Circle, which is RIGHT BEHIND (.01 mile) the 1080 Gano address? I know we don't know they're specifically looking for one, but I heard that the other RSO was driving one and a white van was mentioned on the news yesterday. If we've seen this and I'm having a brain fart just kick me.

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=66005

Scary!! But????

Adult Engaging In Sex With A Minor Over Age 15

 

[Ripley007]

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Ripley ... I have seen this mentioned a few times last couple days.. I understand where you all could see this.. I was like I don't see any tears .. but I said well look at her face swelled up from crying before she came out.. I don't know if you get cried out and just no tears anymore or if maybe from crying so much your tear ducks swell up just like her face was.. so I thought I would give her benefit of doubt.. I do know maybe she is at the angry stage now of grief.. so much emotions when things like this happen.. its up and down.. I know when I lost my mother couple years ago I walked in a cloud of haze.. I planned the funeral and all but I had so much to do I didn't have time to sit and just cry.. I don't even remember going to the viewing ....




I think DT is a strong woman.. has had to be strong .. I see her exhusband to be as kinda the wimpy type.. she was the one who held the family together and made all arrangements in that marriage.. jmo... So she is a take hold kinda woman and gets er done..

just my 2 cents as I questioned this too.. but then I thought of my mother and grand-daughters funerals and I see where ppl come from in grief..

I have had to be a strong person since I was 13yrs old. raised my 2 brothers and then started a family.. I pay our bills decide almost everything in our marriage for the last 34 yrs unless he wants a new toy and he is able to figure out how to get that dang toy. lol

ok enough of chit chat. but its nice .. burn out on these forums are not a good thing...

Thank You so much for your responce!! You mention that in the past few days others have mentioned this? This "case" is only 5 days old and on this thread alone it's up to page 20! Haven't read all, but in the bits I have went through, I haven't found another posters thread that mentioned Somer T's Mom making them feel uneasy. If you know where I might find more like-minded posts can you help direct me there? Earlier threads on this post, or another thread?

Wow, you had alot placed on your shoulders at a young age! It made you strong and you can relate better than someone like me with no frame of reference.

Maybe she went on camera after being cried out like you suggest. Maybe her shock affects her tears. I personally don't know. I just know that whenever she comes onto the TV screen, I HAVE to change the channel, because she angers me in a deep place, and makes me very uneasy and uncomfortable. I also see a slight smirk on her face at all times (maybe just a misperception on my part!!!!!!) I feel very bad for saying that, but the TRUTH is I do, and that's what I see. I hope I am way off base.....

But, you know how peeps are...IF my uneasy feelings turn out to have a basis of fact behind them, you know at that very moment that EVERYONE finds out, they will come out of the woodwork and say, "Yeah, didn't it bug the Heck out of you how she sobbed without producing tears????"

Anyway, I sure hope I am wrong in this case. I don't often say that, if ever, but this time, I really mean it.

 

[not_my_kids]

Somer's mom is nothing like Susan Smith.
Look at the early videos, she genuinely seems to be denial that someone could have taken her baby, we have all seen the true grief that came after that. Now we are seeing a woman conducting herself with honor and grace through the anger stage of real loss and grief.
I have always sworn to myself that no matter what it takes, if one of my children is taken or killed, I will not cry for the cameras. That is what the offender wants to see and I would never give it to them. I would show my rage and my resolve, but would do my best to hold back the tears. Somer's mom is a woman with great empathy and the ability to accept the circumstances and do whatever she can to make them better. I commend her and view her as a role model.

 

[MommaD]

They're all on the sex offender registry. Some are listed as predators. All I care to know about are the child molesters and violent offenders.
I was checking out the offenders in my area and one guy was on there for what appeared to be "mooning" an older lady. While this guy is obviously an idiot, being on the list of RSO's seems awfully harsh and IMO, misleading.

I want to know who to fear.

Yes Chicana I so agree.. and the ones in a custody dispute if can't prove one or the other really did something should be listed as such also in a class of its own..

My son and I get into some heated discussions on this topic.. He had a good friend ... who's ex wife tired to get him for so on her .. she hated him and wanted revenge... was wife at time tho..

But really there needs to be different levels.. If this law is to work at federal level all the loop holes have to be covered and have to make a firm list what will work to keep these monsters off the streets... and away from our children... or anyone really.. elderly get raped too.. I just can't see what a male would find so interesting about a child or elderly person sexually.. I just can't imagine someones brain so messed up they desire this...

 

[Amster]

Ex-husband a wimp?? He's an Iraq war veteran...has he said or done something to deserve being called a "wimp"? Maybe I missed something....he just lost his daughter. Mom doesn't have an exclusive on grief.

 

[MommaD]

Ex-husband a wimp?? He's an Iraq war veteran...has he said or done something to deserve being called a "wimp"? Maybe I missed something....he just lost his daughter. Mom doesn't have an exclusive on grief.

Ok I am woman enough to admit I am wrong.. well used wrong word.. I love my dh.. but he sure wimps out on doing major tasks to ease the stress and burden on me .. And my dh was Viet Nam vet. my father was prisoner of war in Korea for 1 1/2 yrs... So I honor the vets and respect them for what they have done for us. Also. I wonder how many RSO or SO are vets also.. I know 2 personally...

 

[CHICANA]

I don't know if this is the right thread for what I want to say. If not, if another Somer T thread would be better, someone please direct me there....

First off, let me say, I feel like I going to sound like a bad person for this post, but I can't help myself.....

Somer's mom reminds me of Susan S.

In many other cases, much is made of the parents reactions (as IF there is such a thing as a "normal" reaction). And the first thing that seems to be pointed out is "crying/sobbing without benefit of real tears" Does it bother anyone else than Somer's Mom cries and sobs, yet never produces tears? She doesn't even try to fake it, by wiping her eyes, or blowing her nose....Anyone? And is the amount of time she spends in front of the news cameras bother anyone else???????

That's all I'll say about it for now. But can anyone relate to my uneasy feeling about Somer's Mom? If it's just me, then point it out, like I said, I feel bad for even mentioning it, but I can't help the uneasy way I feel....

I don't think mom had anything to do with it, but I noticed the lack of tears too.
If I were in her shoes (God forbid), I'd need drugs. Valium,zanax, whatever they'd give me to keep me from a total breakdown.
She's either cried out or taking something that makes it difficult to produce tears. I know I've heard of that side effect with certain meds, but I don't remember which ones.
I don't know if I'm as strong as she is, I can't imaging living without them.
And knowing they suffered would be more than I could bear.
I hope I could be like her. Since she can no longer live for Somer, she's living to make sure Somer didn't die in vain and that her death doesn't go unpunished.
I think she might be out 'in public' because she's afraid to be alone.
She's trying to keep herself going for Somer.

Or, I don't know what I'm talking about and should stop psycho-analyzing total strangers.

 

[txsvicki]

Some type of vest .. like the crossing guards. i haven't read article yet . I will but just wearing purple sounds dangerous...

I don't like the idea of strangers, old folks, or anyone volunteering to escort kids. The nuttiest person I've ever met and wouldn't trust at all is a crossing guard at a school. I say people should demand free after school care or a special bus to take kids home who are forced to walk, but that could open up being turned in to CPS because kids under a certain age aren't supposed to be left home alone either.