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The GPS/Ankle Bracelet link provided was informative.
Many would definitely be interested in the differences between the two.

I think that would be a popular subject out on the Main Forum.

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salvarenga said:
Ankle monitoring for house arrest is not the same as GPS monitoring for sex offenders. It's two different processes and tracking systems.
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Sorry to go off topic but here are the different types of monitoring that are offered by the contractor for FL Dept of Correction:

http://www.ptm.com/default.asp?PageID=3

Active, Passive and RF are the most commonly known offender tracking terms describing supervision levels. Pro Tech’s SMART®Ware System now features a fourth mode: the SMART® Alert level. Pro Tech also offers the SMART®ONE - Wearable giving you a body- worn, one-piece option for your offenders.

SMART®RF – the base unit calls the Surveillance Data Center (SDC) every six hours, or upon violation, to report when your offender arrives at and leaves the home.

SMART®Passive – the tracking unit calls the SDC when placed in the base unit, and every six hours while docked, to report daily location and violation information.

SMART®Alert – the tracking unit calls the SDC twice per day under normal conditions to report location; a violation condition turns the unit to active mode and it calls immediately so that the officer is notified in real-time.

SMART®Active – the tracking unit calls the SDC every hour, or at a “ping” from the officer to report location, and the unit calls immediately upon violation in order to provide real-time information.

SMART®ONE-Wearable - Complements our two-piece tracking device by offering one-piece convenience in a common user interface.

Keep in mind, this would also depend on what type of parameters are set up for the individual wearing the device.

Let's take one of the SO's that live close to Haleigh for example, let's say there restriction was not to be within "X" amount of miles/feet from a school. Then an alarm would not necessarily be sent if they were near Haleigh's home unless it was in the "out of bounds" area.

All that being said, FL is in a budget crisis just like many other states and I know for a fact there have been cuts in LE related items budget. So if I were to make a guess, I would bet they are using the most cost effective (nice wording for cheap) version of this.
 
Thanks for the electronic info, salvarenga. I did read the article at the link given earlier but I think I was distracted before I read it's entirety. Your post could be extremely helpful in detecting the events of Haleigh's disappearance and who could be involved.

I've done about as much sleuthing I can for the private eye's place of birth. I've passed on to Soulscape, Kat, and Fifth what I've found with their help. Soulscape may make her own decision which locale to use for the chart. I'll do more searching later tonight if needed. Back later........ My head is spinning. :crosseyed:
 
Does anyone else find it interesting that the PI in the Anthony case was also a former construction worker? Mere coincidence? I'm sure it is, but it's interesting.

Salem
 
Sorry to keep bringing up the GPS BUT I have been looking into how the monitoring works. I am reading that these bracelets need to be charged for 30 minutes daily.

So my question is from the last known time that Haleigh was seen up until the 911 call was placed. Is there a 30 minute time frame that looks to be more likely as to when a crime may have occured. And if so does this time frame connect to any of the top SO's charts for that same 30 minute period?

Is that even possible to look at astrology wise?
 
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lolipop said:
Hello Everybody I am very new to this I just joined today... I have been reading what everybody has written and I am so impressed by what you can learn from the planets and stars.
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Welcome to the Astro Forum Lolipop!! Glad to have you with us! :blowkiss:
 
The info at the link provided by athy got me to thinking...as did the Gemini influence in the charts which could point to two perps. Here's something to think about....what if the cousin took Chelsea's van and abducted Haleigh because he was upset with Ronald over the gun incident from the previous weekend (the weekend Housemouse was concerned with). The family (including him I would assume) knows and/or is related to Snod and/or Sapp. Everyone in that (or exposed to that) small town knows who the pedophiles are, and giving Haleigh to one of them would be the ultimate revenge against Ronald -- and it provides the opportunity for the perp to get rid of his abductee. Just a theory/opinion
 
beckaroozie said:
The info at the link provided by athy got me to thinking...as did the Gemini influence in the charts which could point to two perps. Here's something to think about....what if the cousin took Chelsea's van and abducted Haleigh because he was upset with Ronald over the gun incident from the previous weekend (the weekend Housemouse was concerned with). The family (including him I would assume) knows and/or is related to Snod and/or Sapp. Everyone in that (or exposed to that) small town knows who the pedophiles are, and giving Haleigh to one of them would be the ultimate revenge against Ronald -- and it provides the opportunity for the perp to get rid of his abductee. Just a theory/opinion
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hmmm, interesting~

The possibility of 2 people being involved was given consideration and discussed by SOULSCAPE in post#373.

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yes, the 911 Call chart could support a theory of two perps. This is because Gemini, a double-bodied sign, is on the 7th House of Thieves. Lord 7 is MERCURY in Capricorn, in mutual reception with, and trine, SATURN in Virgo ---- a younger man (MERCURY) and an older man (SATURN), possibly a younger man who brings the child to an older man. I have discussed this previously in 911 Call Chart discussions. You may want to go to post #1 on this Thread and review those discussions.
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beck not just that but it was because of crystal's family he was in jail to begin with....
 
from what i heard ds was staying with misty's brother at least the night that haleigh was taken.
 
There are 2 different SO's with the initials DS. Charts have been done on both. Have a look back through the 2nd thread where you'll find some of the discussions.

The other person with the intitials JO was visiting from TN and is a cousin. His chart was worked on earlier as well.
If you read the last part of the article, there's a statement from LE:
Police said they have tracked that man down and questioned him.

Since both DS people live in the area, LE wouldn't have to 'track' them down.
 
salvarenga said:
Sorry to keep bringing up the GPS BUT I have been looking into how the monitoring works. I am reading that these bracelets need to be charged for 30 minutes daily.

So my question is from the last known time that Haleigh was seen up until the 911 call was placed. Is there a 30 minute time frame that looks to be more likely as to when a crime may have occured. And if so does this time frame connect to any of the top SO's charts for that same 30 minute period?

Is that even possible to look at astrology wise?
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Hello Salvarenga,

Both Kaitland and I, independent of each other, postulated a speculative time of kidnapping of 12:39 - 12:40 am on 2/10/09. The time was based on planetary positions, specifically, the time SUN crossed 4th House cusp (the Home) into the 3rd House (Near Neighborhood). Interestingly, at this same time, MOON entered the sign Virgo.

Here is the speculative chart:

SpeculatedTimeofKidnapping.gif



This evening after reading your question, I thought to compare with Haleigh's natal chart. After doing so, I am leaning heavily toward this being the time frame, because SPECULATIVE MIDHEAVEN at 21:27 Leo is exactly conjunct Haleigh's natal ASCENDANT, with SPECULATIVE ASCENDANT 16:27 Scorpio close conjunct Haleigh's natal IC (4th House cusp). These alignments are hardly coincidence:



Bi-WheelHaleighNATAL-SpeculatedTime.gif




I compared several RSO/ SO charts to this bi-wheel and saw connections ranging from mild to moderate to strong. I need to spend more time examining them so I won't take this discussion any further tonight.

Thanks,
Soulscape
 
FifthEssence said:
hmmm, interesting~

The possibility of 2 people being involved was given consideration and discussed by SOULSCAPE in post#373.
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Could this also be how the 'mysterious missing blanket' got into that van? I'd be interested if LE got the clothes the cousin was wearing that night and tested them, and what they found in the van. If Haleigh was known to wet the bed, maybe she had that night and his clothes and the van would have traces of her urine on them...or some other trace evidence.
 
Soulscape said:
Hello Salvarenga,

Both Kaitland and I, independent of each other, postulated a speculative time of kidnapping of 12:39 - 12:40 am on 2/10/09. The time was based on planetary positions, specifically, the time SUN crossed 4th House cusp (the Home) into the 3rd House (Near Neighborhood). Interestingly, at this same time, MOON entered the sign Virgo.

Here is the speculative chart:

SpeculatedTimeofKidnapping.gif



This evening after reading your question, I thought to compare with Haleigh's natal chart. After doing so, I am leaning heavily toward this being the time frame, because SPECULATIVE MIDHEAVEN at 21:27 Leo is exactly conjunct Haleigh's natal ASCENDANT, with SPECULATIVE ASCENDANT 16:27 Scorpio close conjunct Haleigh's natal IC (4th House cusp). These alignments are hardly coincidence:



Bi-WheelHaleighNATAL-SpeculatedTime.gif




I compared several RSO/ SO charts to this bi-wheel and saw connections ranging from mild to moderate to strong. I need to spend more time examining them so I won't take this discussion any further tonight.

Thanks,
Soulscape
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Thank you Soul ;-) Bold is mine. Has Misty been compared to JO? (not sure if we even had a chart for JO yet) but it is a short walk thru the woods to where the van was parked at Chelsea's. I could see the van having been used by either Misty alone or Misty with an accomplice. There are some back roads into the woods from that area where a scratch could have happened to the side of the van.

Your timing of the possible abduction is very very interesting and would have allowed time for use of the van and Misty to return to the home. Remember when she said...."I saw three" but could not recall the minutes when she states she got up to use the bathroom? Could she have seen "3" when she arrived back home after possibly parking the van back at Chelsea's?

Also...another point of interest... Chelsea gets the call at four am about Haleigh and goes outside to find the van parked in a way that she had not left it the night before. She then drove it over to Haleigh's. Later that evening Misty asks her how she scratched the van and Chelsea has no idea of a scratch.

fwiw...
 
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THE VAN
Misty has 2 brothers. One is named Tommy and married to Lindsay. They live in the neighborhood. The other is Timmy and he's married to Chelsea, they reside in Daytona.

There seems to be some confusion about which van is which.
We know Tommy came over w/the kids around 5pm-same time as the AC man on 2/9.
Misty said 'the blanket' was in "the van that they took."
We heard a 'van' was confiscated by LE.
We don't know if this is the same van Tommy drove over in or if this van had nothing to do w/that visit. But we do know, the 'cousin' had stayed at Chelsea's in Daytona and also had spent time in Satsuma. Did he use the Van?

Here's a link to the story about the scratch & the conversation between Chesea & Misty.
VIDEO coverage: http://www.cbs47.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=30465@video.cbs47.com&navCatId=5
News article:http://www.cbs47.com/content/topsto...ce-In-The-Haleigh/1k5Lp9GD2E2M74ZPyUJb7g.cspx

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There's a thread out on the Main Forum that discusses this. Seems everybody is just as confused.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81646

There's also a thread out there discussing GPS/Ankle Bracelets
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3477109#post3477109

Let's go back to ASTROLOGY and leave figuring out the van and who drove what and where out on the Main Forum.
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Could the Gemini signify the actual perp, and then someone like Ron "the younger man" knowing??? In other words does it technically have to be two perps, or could it be the perp and someone else knowing. Also do we know that two possable people would both be male, could one be Misty and she either allowed the perp to take Haliegh and just did nothing to stop it?
 
butterfly1978 said:
Could the Gemini signify the actual perp, and then someone like Ron "the younger man" knowing??? In other words does it technically have to be two perps, or could it be the perp and someone else knowing. Also do we know that two possable people would both be male, could one be Misty and she either allowed the perp to take Haliegh and just did nothing to stop it?
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Butterfly, I think you may be mixing up some astro principles.

Gemini is a double-bodied sign, often symbolizing two of something. Since Gemini is on the 7th House of Thieves cusp, it may symbolize the involvement of two people in the kidnapping, the operative word being may...

The ruler of Gemini is MERCURY, often symbolizing a younger person (typically male but not always; depends which planet(s) MERCURY is hanging out with).

In the 911 Call Chart, MERCURY (younger man) is in trine (easy aspect) and in mutual reception (in each other's sign) with SATURN which typically symbolizes an older man.

I have repeatedly stated I do not believe Misty was directly involved. The charts simply do not support Misty "giving" Haleigh to some perp. This was an abduction.

Thanks,
Soulscape
 
I honestly believe that Misty knows who took Haleigh I think that she is partly scared and partly protecting someone that's where I start feeling like family has something to do with this. I really think that unfortunately this poor little baby is gone now and buried I keep seeing trees and a picnic bench, water. Is it possible to tell by a chart where the baby is? Maybe Dunns Creek Park or Gold Head Park? I know I said that before but my heart is so far in this
 
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