GA - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 10 counts in 2020 election interference, violation of RICO Act, 14 Aug 2023 #2

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SouthAussie said:
They are not "protected".


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I doubt the jury will agree with you.

JMO
 
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In my opinion, if anything authentically problematic happened during the election, it should be (and probably has been) addressed.

However, I am beyond confident that if any irregularity had ANY significant effect on the outcome of the election, it would have been addressed in one of those 60-ish lawsuits brought after the election.
 
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Auntie Cipation said:
In my opinion, if anything authentically problematic happened during the election, it should be (and probably has been) addressed.

However, I am beyond confident that if any irregularity had ANY significant effect on the outcome of the election, it would have been addressed in one of those 60-ish lawsuits brought after the election.
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Or found during one of the recounts.

The "rigging" was Trump and his gang trying to steal the election through fake electors.

jmo
 
Sillybilly said:
IMO it's another take at incitement when you consider Churchill's famous Never Surrender, "we shall fight" speech ... in part:

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God’s good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.
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Greatest speech ever made.
 
whitelilac said:
" Donald Trump's team had discussed the former president's mug shot prior to him taking it at the Fulton County jail Thursday evening, two sources familiar with the discussions told CNN.

Trump ultimately decided he wanted to appear "defiant" in the shot, and purposefully chose not to smile, the sources said. "

I think they tried to copy Winston Churchill's look.
BIG fail, bigly !
What a narcissist !

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Trump surrenders to Fulton County authorities in Georgia 2020 election case

Donald Trump turned himself in Thursday at the Fulton County jail on more than a dozen charges stemming from his efforts to reverse Georgia's 2020 election results, marking the fourth time this year the former president has faced criminal charges.
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The only resemblance is the jowls.
 
MyBelle said:
Or maybe the crowd recognized her as the former Mayor who landed in hot water? She looks nothing like DA Willis.
JMO

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Campaign Finance Commission fines Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms $37,000

Ethics Commission fines Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms $37,000
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In 2017 we reported then city councilwoman Keisha Lance Bottoms charged taxpayers $40,000 for her end of the year city council district flyer. But, she mailed it outside her district and all across the city. It included 80 pictures of her in action.

Our report lead to a 2018 campaign finance complaint when Keisha Lance Bottoms ran for Mayor. Log Cabin Republicans wanted Bottoms investigated for the flyer and other campaign disclosure issues.
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I don't think she looks anything like DA Willis.
 
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Reasonable & Just said:
All due respect, but ABSOLUTELY NOT! First of all, Sam is way more attractive, and the former guy looks like he’s about to burst into tears, not inform us of anything useful. But more importantly, Sam the Eagle would never mess with democracy and the American Way!
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Nor would he brag about being able to grab the hens by their vent because he's a star.
 
MyBelle said:
I doubt the jury will agree with you.

JMO
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Have you followed any court cases/trials lately? Text messages and tweets are entered into evidence all the time, as long as they were obtained according to the rules of evidence. For example, Lori Vallow and Leticia Stauch were two recent very public cases, who, BTW, were both found guilty by a jury.
 
Well - I still have a few that have not surrendered - I have bold them in scarlet. And some more notes added.

Friday, August 25th:
*Surrender Date (for rest) (by 12pm ET) – State of Georgia vs. Donald John Trump (77) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count (1) of violation of the Georgia RICO (Racketeer Influenced & corrupt organizations) Act (there are 161 acts listed), 4 counts (5, 9, 28, 38) of solicitation of violation of oath by public officer, 2 counts (13 & 19) conspiracy to commit false statements & writings, 1 count (15) conspiracy to commit filing false documents, 2 counts (11 & 17) conspiracy to commit forgery in the 1st degree, 1 count (27) filing false documents & 2 counts (29 & 39) of false statements & writings. (total 13 counts). Bond $200K. Surrendered 8/24/23.
vs. Rudolph William Louis Giuliani (79) (Trump lawyer) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 3 counts (2, 6 & 9) of conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer. 2 counts (3 & 7) false statements & writings, 2 counts (11 & 17) conspiracy to commit forgery in the 1st degree, 2 counts (13 & 19) conspiracy to commit false statements & writings, 1 count (15) conspiracy to commit filing false documents, 1 count (23) solicitation of violation of oath by public officer & 1 count (24) false statements & writings. (total 13 counts). Bond $150K. Surrendered 8/23/23.
vs. John Charles Eastman (63) (White House Chief of Staff) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 1 count of solicitation of violation of oath by public officer (2), 1 count of conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer (9), 2 counts of conspiracy to commit forgery in the 1st degree (11 & 17), 2 counts of conspiracy to commit false statements & writings (13 & 19), 1 count of conspiracy to commit filing false documents (15) & 1 count of filing false documents. (total 9 counts). Bond $100K. Surrendered on 8/22/23. Attorney Harvey Silverglate.
vs. Mark Randall Meadows (64) (Trump lawyer) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count of violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1) & 1 count of solicitation of violation of oath by public officer (28). (total 2 counts). Surety Bond at $100K. Surrendered 8/24/23.
vs. Kenneth John Chesebro (61) (Trump lawyer) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count of violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 1 count of conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer (9), 2 counts of conspiracy to commit forgery in the 1st degree (11 & 17), 2 counts of conspiracy to commit false statements & writings (13 & 19) & 1 count of conspiracy to commit filing false documents (15). (total 7 counts). Bond $100K. Surrendered 8/23/23.
vs. Jeffrey Bossert Clark (56) (pro-Trump lawyer) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1) & 1 count criminal attempt to commit false statements & writings (22). (total 2 counts). Bond $100K. Surrendered 8/23/23.
vs. Jenna Lynn Ellis (39) (top Justice Dept. official) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with count violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1) & 1 count of solicitation of violation of oath by public officer (2). (total 2 counts). Bond $100K. Surrendered 8/23/23.
vs. Ray Stallings Smith III (60) (Coffee County election supervisor) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 2 counts of solicitation of violation of oath by public officer (2 & 6), 3 counts of false statements & writings (4, 13 & 19), 1 count conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer (9), 2 counts of conspiracy to commit forgery in the 1st degree (11 & 17), 1 count conspiracy to commit filing false documents (15), 1 count criminal attempt to commit false statements & writings (23) & 1 count of false statements & writings (25). (total 12 counts). Bond $50K. Surrendered 8/23/23.
vs. Robert David Cheeley (Trump campaign lawyer) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count of violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 1 count of conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer (9), 2 counts of conspiracy to commit forgery in the 1st degree (11 & 17), 2 counts of conspiracy to commit false statements & writings (13 & 19), 1 count of conspiracy to commit filing false documents (15), 1 count of solicitation of violation of oath by public officer (23), 1 count false statements & writings (26) & 1 count of perjury (41). (total 10 counts). Bond $50K.
vs. Michael A. Roman (51) (lawyer) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count of violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 1 count of conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer (9), 2 counts of conspiracy to commit forgery in the 1st degree (11 & 17), 2 counts of conspiracy to commit false statements & writings (13 & 19) & 1 count of filing false documents (15). (total 7 counts). Bond #50K.
vs. David James Shafer (58) (Trump campaign official) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 1 count of impersonating a public office (8), 1 count of forgery in the 1st degree (10), 2 counts of false statements & writings (12 & 40), 2 counts of criminal attempt to commit false documents (14 & 18), 1 count of forgery in the 1st degree (16) & (total 8 counts). Bond $75K. Surrendered 8/23/23.
vs. Shawn Micah Tresher Still (50 or 51) (Georgia GOP chair & fake elector) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count of violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 1 count of impersonating a public office (8), 1 count of forgery in the 1st degree (10), 1 count of false statements & writings (12), 2 counts of criminal attempt to commit false documents (14 & 18), 1 count of forgery in the 1st degree (16). (total 7 counts). Bond $10K.
vs. Stephen Cliffgard Lee (71) (Fake GOP elector) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count violation of the Georgia RICO Ac6t (1), 2 counts criminal attempt to commit influencing witnesses (20 & 21), 1 count of criminal attempt to commit false statements & writings (22), 2 counts solicitation of violation of oath by public officer(23 & 28), 4 counts of False statements & writings (24, 25, 26 & 29), 1 count of filing false documents (27), 1 count conspiracy to commit solicitation of false statements & writings (30), 1 count of influencing witnesses (31) & 1 count of conspiracy to commit election fraud (32). (total 14 counts). Bond $75K.
vs. Harrison William Prescott Floyd aka Willie Lewis Floyd III (36?) (pastor tied to intimidation of election workers) indicted & charged (8/14/23 with 1 count violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 1 count of conspiracy to commit solicitation of false statements & writings (30) & 1 count of influencing witnesses (31). (total 3 counts). Surrendered 8/24/23 & will remain in jail without bond.
vs. Trevian C. Kutti (53) (leader of Black Voices for Trump) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count of violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 1 count of conspiracy to commit solicitation of false statements & writings (30) & 1 count of influencing witnesses (31). (total 3 counts). Bond $75K.
vs. Sidney Katherine Powell (68) (publicist tied to intimidation of election workers) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count of violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 2 counts of conspiracy to commit election fraud (32 & 33), 1 count of conspiracy to commit computer theft (34), 1 count conspiracy to commit computer trespass (35), 1 count conspiracy to commit computer invasion of privacy (36) & 1 count conspiracy to defraud the State. (total 7 counts). Bond $100K. Surrendered 8/23/23.
vs. Cathleen Alston Latham (Trump campaign lawyer) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 1 count of impersonating a public officer (8), 1 count of forgery in the 1st degree (10), 1 count of false statements & writings (12), 1 count of criminal attempt to commit false documents (14), 2 counts conspiracy to commit election fraud (32 & 33), 1 count conspiracy to commit computer theft (34), 1 count conspiracy to commit computer trespass (35), 1 count of conspiracy to commit computer invasion of privacy (36) & 1 count conspiracy to defraud the State (37). (total 11 counts). Bond $75K. Surrendered on 8/23/23.
vs. Scott Graham Hall (fake GOP elector tied to Coffee County breach) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 2 counts conspiracy to commit election fraud (32 & 33), 1 count conspiracy to commit computer theft (34), 1 count conspiracy to commit computer trespass (35), 1 count of conspiracy to commit computer invasion of privacy (36) & 1 count conspiracy to defraud the State (37). (total 7 counts). Bond $10K. Surrendered on 8/22/23 & posted Surety bond ($4K for RICO & $1K for 6 other charges). Bond $10K. Surrendered 8/23/23.
vs. Misty Hampton aka Emily Misty Hayes (tied to Coffee County election system breach) indicted & charged (8/14/23) with 1 count of violation of the Georgia RICO Act (1), 2 counts conspiracy to commit election fraud (32 & 33), 1 count conspiracy to commit computer theft (34), 1 count conspiracy to commit computer trespass (35), 1 count of conspiracy to commit computer invasion of privacy (36) & 1 count conspiracy to defraud the State (37). (total 7 counts). Signature Bond @ $10K. Fulton County, Georgia Criminal Election Influence Investigation. Prosecuting Office: Fulton County, GA District Attorney’ Fani Willis’ Office. Case #23SC188947
Officials with the Fulton county court handed the indictment to judge Robert McBurney.
Proposed trial date on 3/4/24. Judge Scott McAfee presiding. Though McAfee was assigned the case soon after the indictment was handed up on Monday evening, it could be transferred to a different judge later in the process.
8/17/23 Update from CNN: Fulton County’s sweeping indictment against Trump & 18 additional co-defendants also includes details involving 30 “unindicted co-conspirators” – people who Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis alleges took part in the criminal conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election. Some of the co-conspirators are key Trump advisers, like Boris Epshteyn, while several others are likely Georgia officials who were the state’s fake electors for Trump. One of the unindicted co-conspirators who appears multiple times in the indictment is Georgia’s Republican Lt. Gov. Burt Jones. Willis was barred by a state judge from investigating Jones after she hosted a fundraiser last year for Jones’ Democratic opponent when he was a state senator running for lieutenant governor. The 98-page document alleges the 30 unindicted co-conspirators, who are not named, “constituted a criminal organization whose members & associates engaged in various related criminal activities” across the 41 charges laid out in the indictment. Unindicted co-conspirators per CNN: Co-conspirator 1 is Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch, Co-conspirator 3 is Boris Epshteyn, Trump political adviser, Co-conspirator 4 is Robert Sinners, Trump’s Georgia election day operations lead, Co-conspirator 5 is Bernie Kerik, former NYPD Commissioner, Co-conspirator 6 is GOP operative Phil Waldron, Co-conspirator 8 is Georgia Lt. Gov. Burt Jones, Co-conspirators 9 is former Georgia Republican Party Treasurer Joseph Brannan, Co-conspirators 10 & 11 are Georgia GOP officials Carolyn Fisher & Vikki Consiglio, Co-conspirators 2 & 8-19 are the fake electors, Co-conspirator 20 is unclear-The indictment says Individual 20 was part of a meeting at the White House on December 18, 2020, with Trump, Giuliani & Powell, known to have discussed the possibility of seizing voting machines. Co-conspirators 21 & 22 are Conan Hayes & Todd Sanders, Co-conspirators 23-30 are related to Coffee County voting machines, Co-conspirator 25 & 29 are a Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan & analyst Jeffrey Lenberg, Co-conspirator 28 is Jim Penrose.
Case & court info from 2/10/21 thru 8/13/23 reference post #64 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...ation-of-rico-act-14-aug-2023-2.688728/page-4
8/24/23: Page 15 of GA indictment says there are 30 un-indicted co-conspirators. “I am giving the defendants the opportunity to voluntarily surrender no later than Friday 8/25/23 at noon” says Fulton County DA Fani Willis. She will be proposing a trial date within the next six months. Former Trump White House chief of staff Mark Meadows is seeking to move the Fulton County, Georgia, prosecution against him to federal court so that he can try to get the case dismissed under federal law. On Wednesday, a federal judge scheduled an 8/28/23 hearing for Meadows & others to present evidence about whether to move the case. The judge noted the state court case can proceed at this time. In the filing, Judge Jones said the notice of removal & the attached indictment “do not clearly indicate that summary remand of this matter is required,” meaning there is no need for a higher court to send the case back to a lower court for further action. Judge Jones also ordered Meadows to give Fulton County DA Fani Willis a copy of the notice of removal & the order for the hearing. Once Willis receives the documents, she is allowed to submit a written response by Aug. 23. Fulton County DA Fani Willis has asked a judge to set a trial date of 3/4/24 for Trump & his 18 co-defendants. Willis’ proposed schedule also requests arraignments for Trump & his allies the week of 9/5/23. She hasn’t changed her Aug. 25 deadline for them to surrender at the Fulton County Jail.
8/23/23 Update: Chesebro filed "Demand for Speedy Trial". Filed by Scott R. Grubman. 8/24/23 Update: Drew Findling, the lawyer who has led Trump’s defense in Georgia, is being replaced by Steven Sadow, an Atlanta-based attorney. Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has been told he will be subpoenaed to provide testimony at a court hearing in which former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows will argue the Fulton County case against him should be removed to federal court.
8/24/23 Update: State's Motion to Specially set Trial filed. Fulton County DA Fani Willis asks court to commence trial for all 19 defendants on 10/23/23. The move follows a demand for a speedy trial by one of Trump's co-defendants, Kenneth Chesebro. Under Georgia law, defendants who make a speedy trial demand in Fulton County are supposed to go to trial within roughly 4 months -- if not, that could be grounds for dismissal.
8/24/23 Update: Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows surrendered to authorities at the Fulton County, Ga., jail Thursday afternoon, according to jail records. Meadows agreed to a $100,000 bond earlier Thursday — the same amount as several Trump lawyers charged in the case. He paid the bond via a surety bond, or a loan to post bail.
8/24/23 Update: Trump also alerts the Court that he will be filing a timely motion to sever his case from that of co-defendant Chesebro, who has filed a demand for speedy trial, or any other co-defendant who files such a demand. Trump files a motion opposing Fani Willis’ request for an October 23 trial date for all 19 co-defendants listed in the indictment. 8:44 p.m. The Fulton County Sheriff’s Office released this statement to the media: “This evening, defendant Trump surrendered to authorities at the Fulton County Jail (GA.). Trump’s bond order & stipulations are the result of negotiations between the DA’s office & his attorneys. It is expected that the remaining 7 defendants, named in the Georgia election interference indictment, will surrender by Friday, August 25, 2023.
8/24/23 Update: Fulton County deputies confirm Harrison Floyd surrendered on Thursday but will remain in jail without bond.
8/24/23 Update: Willis filed a motion in Fulton County Superior Court to move all 19 co-defendants’ trial to Oct. 23. Late Thursday afternoon, Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee approved a motion from co-defendant Kenneth Chesebro for a speedy trial, agreeing to an Oct. 23 trial date. Earlier in the day, Willis also filed a motion in the same court, requesting an Oct. 23 trial date for all 19 co-defendants, including the nation’s 45th president himself. Newly hired Trump attorney Steven Sadow immediately filed an objection. 8/25/23 Update: Mark Meadows is seeking to move the Fulton County, Georgia, prosecution against him to federal court so that he can try to get the case dismissed under federal law. On Wednesday, a federal judge scheduled an 8/28/23 hearing for Meadows & others to present evidence about whether to move the case.
 
Having come of age in the ‘60’s and having been a big fan of early Bob Dylan, I’ve been known to drop an apropos line from one of his songs into a thread now and then. Over the years several have come from his masterpiece “It’s Alright Ma (I’m Only Bleeding).” I can’t let this day end without posting these lines that I suspect Dylan himself may have thought about tonight:

“But even the president of the United States
Sometimes must have to stand naked”

If you have 7.5 minutes, give a listen to these brilliant lyrics expressing anger at hypocrisy:

Or read them (annotated):
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Bob Dylan – It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)

With tight internal rhymes and surrealist imagery, “It’s Alright Ma” is the kind of talking blues Dylan made famous with the same album’s “Subterranean Homesick Blues”. The epic
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