You're right that Katie deserved to be able to go to that park at 1am without getting murdered, but the very fact that she was there during that hour might have played a role in her being murdered, at least if it was random. It was dark, with far less people than during the day, and that just makes the timing more favorable for an attacker. It's the pit bull part that blows my mind. 1 am or 1 pm, most people aren't going to be messed with when they have a pittie by their side. Jmo.
GA - Katherine Janness, 40, fatally stabbed and dog killed, Piedmont Park, Atlanta, 28 Jul 2021 #4
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The more I think about it, Katie almost certainly was targeted. LE released surveillance of 5 other individuals leaving the park before/during the murder (not including ‘headlamp jogger’). How many other people were in the park after midnight—including people who may have been recorded on camera but not released to the public?? Considering the lack of working cameras, there were probably a couple dozen people in the park at that time— potential victims for the murderer to target. Why would the killer choose Katie and Bowie, and why at the Charles Allen gate entrance?? I believe she was either lured there or had planned to meet someone there.
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People often mention the fact that a pit bull would normally keep a lot of people away. But, that's not my experience. My sister had a pit bull (a gentle giant) but you would be amazed at how many people (adults and children) made a beeline for him, reaching to touch him without ever asking if they could or should. All while my sister's other dog, a very cute, smiley mutt stood right beside him. They ofen ignored the cute friendly looking dog in favor of the pit bull. Now, he was gentle and maybe exuded that energy, but I have seen that there are many people who have zero qualms about approaching an unfamiliar pit bull.
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A police friend once told me that my two German Shepherds gave me a false sense of security on walks. He said a guy with a knife could handle them without a problem.
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Agree 100%. A fit man is more than a match for a single dog, especially if armed with a knife.
Just re-posting an interview which had a lot of information, hopefully as a handy link for those new to the thread or simply to 'refresh' some details for posters familiar with the case, fwiw.
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Thank you for that! It was a good refresher….
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Got it!
This was in my local news today....a woman stabbed while walking her dog in an urban park.
www.wcvb.com
I'm not at all suggesting that this crime is connected to the murder of KJ, but it is another example of someone intent on committing an assault with a knife and not being deterred by the presence of a dog (we don't yet know what type of dog the Boston victim had, though). I will be interested to hear more details, such as whether police think this was random or not, and I'm glad that this victim is expected to survive her wounds. It is interesting to watch the news report at the link and see how LE were investigating with K-9s etc.
Edit to add: it looks like the victim was elderly, she was stabbed numerous times, and police believe it was a random attack. I-Team: Elderly woman stabbed in Franklin Park may have been randomly targeted
91-year-old civil rights pioneer stabbed while walking dog in Boston's Franklin Park, sources say
A Massachusetts civil rights pioneer and education activist was stabbed multiple times while walking a dog in Boston's Franklin Park on Tuesday night, sources tell 5 Investigates.
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I'm not at all suggesting that this crime is connected to the murder of KJ, but it is another example of someone intent on committing an assault with a knife and not being deterred by the presence of a dog (we don't yet know what type of dog the Boston victim had, though). I will be interested to hear more details, such as whether police think this was random or not, and I'm glad that this victim is expected to survive her wounds. It is interesting to watch the news report at the link and see how LE were investigating with K-9s etc.
Edit to add: it looks like the victim was elderly, she was stabbed numerous times, and police believe it was a random attack. I-Team: Elderly woman stabbed in Franklin Park may have been randomly targeted
Is this some new weird practice? Unrelated recent case, unusual enough to note here, imo, speculation, fwiw..
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Last image of girl, 12, before she was found dead in suitcase
Lola Daviet was tied up inside the plastic suitcase near her home with the numbers '1' and '0' imprinted on her lifeless body, and then left in the inner courtyard of a building in Paris.www.dailymail.co.uk
- ''Victim discovered with her feet and wrists bound and several cuts to her throat
- Numbers found on body - not written or cut but 'placed' on her by a 'device'''
France, Paris - "Lola", 12, Missing after school, Body bound in suitcase, Numbers 1 & 0 put on corpse with 'device', Oct. 2022 *Female suspect arrest*
https://www.foxnews.com/world/missing-paris-girl-12-found-dead-suitcase-numbers-placed-body-device-report
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I just watched a YT video about this still unsolved case from 1993. Stephanie Coyle, age 74, was found nude, throat was cut, she had been slashed a dozen times then raped and molested. Also, there was a symbol carved on her back.
From a 2011 news report.
Forensic Pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht performed the autopsy. He told Target 11 Investigator Rick Earle that he's done thousands of autopsies and this is one of the most brutal he's ever seen.
Stephanie Coyle was found on the floor or her bedroom in her Arnold apartment in July of 1993. After she failed to show for her volunteer job, her landlord went to check on her and discovered her body.
"This is truly one of the most brutal killings I've ever experienced in my role as a forensic pathologist," Wecht said.
On the victim's back, Wecht discovered a strange carving that he suspects was done with a knife after Coyle had been killed.
"It suggests some kind of symbol. This was the final message. It could even be some kind of initiation ritual," said Wecht.
Investigators won't release any photos of the carving, but according to Wecht it was an oval about 21 inches by 14 inches with a vertical line 25 inches long through the middle of the circle. The carving was about a quarter inch deep.
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From a 2011 news report.
Forensic Pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht performed the autopsy. He told Target 11 Investigator Rick Earle that he's done thousands of autopsies and this is one of the most brutal he's ever seen.
Stephanie Coyle was found on the floor or her bedroom in her Arnold apartment in July of 1993. After she failed to show for her volunteer job, her landlord went to check on her and discovered her body.
"This is truly one of the most brutal killings I've ever experienced in my role as a forensic pathologist," Wecht said.
On the victim's back, Wecht discovered a strange carving that he suspects was done with a knife after Coyle had been killed.
"It suggests some kind of symbol. This was the final message. It could even be some kind of initiation ritual," said Wecht.
Investigators won't release any photos of the carving, but according to Wecht it was an oval about 21 inches by 14 inches with a vertical line 25 inches long through the middle of the circle. The carving was about a quarter inch deep.
Target 11 Reopens Case File Of Unsolved Murder
It was a shocking crime in a quiet neighborhood. An elderly woman found brutally stabbed to death with a strange carving on her back.
Thanks for mentioning this case, unless i missed it, i could not find a thread so got this one started, the carving is interesting to note..I just watched a YT video about this still unsolved case from 1993. Stephanie Coyle, age 74, was found nude, throat was cut, she had been slashed a dozen times then raped and molested. Also, there was a symbol carved on her back.
From a 2011 news report.
Forensic Pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht performed the autopsy. He told Target 11 Investigator Rick Earle that he's done thousands of autopsies and this is one of the most brutal he's ever seen.
Stephanie Coyle was found on the floor or her bedroom in her Arnold apartment in July of 1993. After she failed to show for her volunteer job, her landlord went to check on her and discovered her body.
"This is truly one of the most brutal killings I've ever experienced in my role as a forensic pathologist," Wecht said.
On the victim's back, Wecht discovered a strange carving that he suspects was done with a knife after Coyle had been killed.
"It suggests some kind of symbol. This was the final message. It could even be some kind of initiation ritual," said Wecht.
Investigators won't release any photos of the carving, but according to Wecht it was an oval about 21 inches by 14 inches with a vertical line 25 inches long through the middle of the circle. The carving was about a quarter inch deep.
Target 11 Reopens Case File Of Unsolved Murder
It was a shocking crime in a quiet neighborhood. An elderly woman found brutally stabbed to death with a strange carving on her back.
PA - PA- ''Stephanie Coyle, 74, Throat cut, Raped and Molested after death & Design carved into her back, July 1993
https://www.wtae.com/article/family-of-woman-killed-in-1993-frustrated-by-district-attorneys-refusal-to-meet-with-investigator/29429618 2011 rbbm. https://www.wpxi.com/news/target-11-reopens-case-file-of-unsolved-murder_nd3fz/201473430/ ''PITTSBURGH,None — It was a shocking crime in a quiet...
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Thank you for bringing this here, fred&edna and dotr. What a sad, awful case. Maybe WS can give it some traction.
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Is this some new weird practice? Unrelated recent case, unusual enough to note here, imo, speculation, fwiw..
Last image of girl, 12, before she was found dead in suitcase
Lola Daviet was tied up inside the plastic suitcase near her home with the numbers '1' and '0' imprinted on her lifeless body, and then left in the inner courtyard of a building in Paris.- ''Victim discovered with her feet and wrists bound and several cuts to her throat
- Numbers found on body - not written or cut but 'placed' on her by a 'device'''
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No, I think it has nothing to do with the murder of Kat. J. In Paris we have rivalries and the victim had been very brilliant in gymnasticsIs this some new weird practice? Unrelated recent case, unusual enough to note here, imo, speculation, fwiw..
Last image of girl, 12, before she was found dead in suitcase
Lola Daviet was tied up inside the plastic suitcase near her home with the numbers '1' and '0' imprinted on her lifeless body, and then left in the inner courtyard of a building in Paris.- ''Victim discovered with her feet and wrists bound and several cuts to her throat
- Numbers found on body - not written or cut but 'placed' on her by a 'device'''
France, Paris - "Lola", 12, Missing after school, Body bound in suitcase, Numbers 1 & 0 put on corpse with 'device', Oct. 2022 *Female suspect arrest*
https://www.foxnews.com/world/missing-paris-girl-12-found-dead-suitcase-numbers-placed-body-device-report
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One year and three months. I miss you, girl, and your loyal dog.
There must be a person who knows something that can help catch their killer-please, please speak up.
There must be a person who knows something that can help catch their killer-please, please speak up.
First, we see a gay woman and her dog on a LBTQ rainbow crosswalk, then - a large sign stating that pets must be leashed and finally a memorial to said woman (and dog) who were viciously brutalized shortly after the images were captured.
Coincidence or by design?
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Coincidence or by design?
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Autopsy report for mutilated Atlanta woman released
The autopsy report for Atlanta woman Katherine 'Katie' Janness, 40, was released on Friday after she was found mutilated with her dog at a park in July
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The way Katie’s walking with Bowie certainly looks as if he’s on leash. She was a responsible dog owner in all ways.
I wonder if in walking Bowie, she stayed mostly outside, on the perimeter of the park. Perhaps the killer pulled her inside where she was found.
I wonder if in walking Bowie, she stayed mostly outside, on the perimeter of the park. Perhaps the killer pulled her inside where she was found.
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