GA - Suspicion over heat death of Cooper, 22 mo., Cobb County, June 2014, #10

[jjenny]

Read the article and you will see how it happened to you.

And the defense will show examples just like you did to show how it could have happened to RH.

Night :wave:

What exactly happened to me? What are you implying here?

 

[Karmady]

Possibly an adult may have a higher heat tolerance than a toddler. Also do we know how Cooper was dressed that day? Was he wearing a coat in the morning? Where the video was done may also have different humidity than where in Georgia Cooper died. All factors to consider.

My daughter who is 13 is extremely heat sensitive. She's almost passed out at the county fair a couple of times from the heat.

grr...just lost my post. Yes, we don't know and I think we'll have to wait for forensics. However, the video made me wonder whether the one hour time line is realistic or whether the talking head was just talking out of his butt.

 

[sourgrapes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff6SR0oHFQ8

at 20:40 of this video, they are talking about when Leanna was first interviewed at the TreeHouse location.

Det Stoddard states that Leanna was informed of Coopers' death by 2 detectives. Det Stockinger & Det Raicci.

The Little Apron employee that went with Leanna was a male employee named TJ, first name Terrell

I was just thinking about how odd it was for an employee of the Little Apron to escort Leanna to the TreeHouse location and thinking how it may be tied to JRH's 6 minute phone call and I just thought of something.

I remember the earlier discussions mentioning JRH talking with someone of the phone and repeating that he had killed his son and many of the same statements that he was making when he removed Cooper from the SUV. Is it possible that it was during that 6 minute call to the daycare center that JRH was heard yelling into the phone that he had killed his kid? Perhaps, the daycare personnel have some sort of (documented, or undocumented) policy on how to handle emergencies like this one and they did not tell Leanna about her son when she arrived at the daycare. Instead, they sent an employee (a male employee = less emotional?) to accompany her to the TreeHouse where the two detectives did the official notification of death?

That could explain the 6 minute phone call. JRH was freaking out (part of his plan) at the daycare workers and they were contacting local police at the same time and were then notified of what was unfolding and was told not to say anything to Leanna, but to direct her to her the TreeHouse? Or, perhaps the same scenario, but the police may not have told the daycare workers what happened, but still had them send the mother to the TreeHouse?

 

[gngr~snap]

Do you have a link for that. Or even who said it. I'm assuming you're saying Stoddard said it. So I just looked at his testimony and am not seeing that. TIA :seeya:

A Mr. Borne?
"Well, probable cause is a relatively low threshold and the court is persuaded that at the very minimum, there's reckless disregard for the safety of others in the conduct of Mr. Harris, in that the moments or seconds that he lapsed between the time he placed the child in the car seat until he got to his workplace, which is a matter of moments, he allegedly forgot the child. And then for him to enter the car later that day, after 4:00 in the afternoon, when the child had been dead and rigor mortis had set in, that the testimony is the stench in the car was overwhelming at that point in time, that he in spite of that he got in the car and drove it for some distance before he took any action to check on the welfare of his child"

http://edition.cnn.hu/TRANSCRIPTS/1407/03/cg.01.html

 

[Melanie]

Can you believe it? Another one!

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/n...-265948161.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_LABrand

The St. Petersburg Police report 32-year-old Natasha Graver left the child in the back of her car and went to attend a funeral Saturday for three women killed in a hit-and-run crash.

She's very lucky she's not prepping for another funeral - her own child's.

Carry on --

Mel

 

[Karmady]

A Mr. Borne?
"Well, probable cause is a relatively low threshold and the court is persuaded that at the very minimum, there's reckless disregard for the safety of others in the conduct of Mr. Harris, in that the moments or seconds that he lapsed between the time he placed the child in the car seat until he got to his workplace, which is a matter of moments, he allegedly forgot the child. And then for him to enter the car later that day, after 4:00 in the afternoon, when the child had been dead and rigor mortis had set in, that the testimony is the stench in the car was overwhelming at that point in time, that he in spite of that he got in the car and drove it for some distance before he took any action to check on the welfare of his child"

http://edition.cnn.hu/TRANSCRIPTS/1407/03/cg.01.html

no..that's the judge talking right there. If I knew where he got that from, I'd have my answer, I think. Thank you

 

[DeDee]

engagement picture of future murderers…jmo

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20060521/NEWS/605210377

No church wedding for this couple.

 

[fruity]

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/nati...ics-key-in-hot-car-child-death-case/12275663/

Computer forensics key in hot car child death case

ATLANTA — As a website developer, the Georgia man charged with murder in the hot car death of his 22-month-old son, knows his way around a computer.

The police do, too, and that's how they uncovered Justin Ross Harris' apparent double life of sexting and his penchant for videos about death.

...

"We talked a little bit about these computers; have you guys done examinations on these computers?" asked Cobb County prosecutor Chuck Boring of Stoddard.
"We have," Stoddard responded.
"Are you finished with your examination of these computers?"
"We've only scratched the surface," Stoddard answered.
Harris had access to at least three computers. And police said it's clear he was covering his tracks on all of them.

 

[cluciano63]

But didn't he lie about the 6 minute call? Why do that?

 

[momrids6]

Can you fake out an audiogram?

yes. They buzz the sound into your ear- you press a button "if/when" you hear it- just don't have to push the button

 

[human]

I think there are better tests than that

http://www.asha.org/public/hearing/Types-of-Tests-Used-to-Evaluate-Hearing/

 

[LinasK]

yes. They buzz the sound into your ear- you press a button "if/when" you hear it- just don't have to push the button

We never had people press a button, they had to raise their hand when they heard a tone.

 

[gngr~snap]

The hearing tests used today can evaluate if a newborn can hear or not. They do not need the cooperation of the person being tested at all.


Otoacoustic Emissions (OAE)

This test is used to screen the hearing of an infant or any child who cannot or will not cooperate during behavioral testing.

http://www.chla.org/site/c.ipINKTOAJsG/b.6067857/k.B68B/Audiology_Testing.htm

 

[PigPong]

That's what I said about Jodi Arias, I was very wrong. Never underestimate the sheer arrogance of a narcissistic psychopath. IMO


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I think we will see RH on the stand, against hi defense's strong objection. His arrogance reminds me of a Ted Bundy or Wayne Williams. Especially Wayne with that unbelievable resume RH has....

 

[RainCheck]

IMO, the sexting establishes RH has no conscious, literally since he told one of the girls he has no conscious, or morality and is a selfish man who finds lying natural and easy!

 

[PigPong]

The hearing tests used today can evaluate if a newborn can hear or not. They do not need the cooperation of the person being tested at all.


Otoacoustic Emissions (OAE)

This test is used to screen the hearing of an infant or any child who cannot or will not cooperate during behavioral testing.

http://www.chla.org/site/c.ipINKTOAJsG/b.6067857/k.B68B/Audiology_Testing.htm

It is pretty cool to watch, too....

 

[MissJ]

Again, hearing poorly and loss of smell does not cause a person to be unable to see a child's head sticking out of the top of his car seat when that "poor of smell and hearing" parent looks to their right when in the driver's seat of their car. Especially when the child's car seat is BESIDE their right arm!!!!

MOO

Precisely!

 

[PigPong]

yes. They buzz the sound into your ear- you press a button "if/when" you hear it- just don't have to push the button

That's old school. I remember doing that. I think they still use it at time but the are other tests as well now...

 

[PigPong]

I think he has lied in the past which is why I said we don't know if the child was in the seat.

We don't even now how much truth is in the morning routine for that day. Wake up, watch cartoonsvwith daddy the get ready to leave.

 

[Oblio]

Well, I don't know what poster did or didn't do, but it doesn't look like Cooper could get anything out. And it certainly looks like he tried. He had many scratches on him.

The point I'm trying to make is that straps being in the lowest slot did not make it harder for him to get out. There's a good chance he was able to wiggle his arms free because the straps were in the lowest slot. I just don't think that there was anything deliberately sinister about the choice or method of car seat use. Maybe the rear facing part, but just maybe. Sure he didn't fit the seat, but it's use is more a demonstration of ignorance or laziness than anything else, IMHO.