GA - Suspicion over heat death of Cooper, 22 mo., Cobb County, June 2014, #4

[Chewy]

That fortune 50 obviously has been a sticking point for him for a LONG time.

I have to say, (not in his defense) but these comments remind me of a friend of mine who worked at Barnes and Nobel in the main headquarters. Whenever people asked where she worked, people would assume she worked in one of the stores. I can see why he would say "IT in a fortune 50 company" because it would get annoying to keep having to correct people who assumed that he worked in one of the stores at Home Depot if he said "I work in the IT department at Home Depot" (oh I didn't know they sold computers etc etc) Anyway, it shows that he thought higher of himself and didn't like it when people assumed.


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[Sonya610]

I can see why he would say "IT in a fortune 50 company" because it would get annoying to keep having to correct people who assumed that he worked in one of the stores at Home Depot if he said "I work in the IT department at Home Depot" (oh I didn't know they sold computers etc etc) Anyway, it shows that he thought higher of himself and didn't like it when people assumed.

I would think it would be more natural to say "I work at Home Depot Corporate".

Just throwing the word "Corporate" in would tell most folks that he was not at a store. Course in my line of work we frequently deal with businesses that have stores as well as a corporate headquarters, so differentiating is common.

 

[gngr~snap]

"First of all Ross, I love you and I'm doing this for you, OK?" she said.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/28/us/georgia-toddler-funeral/index.html

This.
It is gnawing my craw!
A: it sounds like she needs validation from him.
B: There is no mistake. She says she's doing it for him.

NOT US. (meaning she and him) -not the public.

C: Is she putting her husband's "needs" above her own?

 

[Chewy]

I would think it would be more natural to say "I work at Home Depot Corporate".

Just throwing the word "Corporate" in would tell most folks that he was not at a store. Course in my line of work we frequently deal with businesses that have stores as well as a corporate headquarters, so differentiating is common.

Just saying, the girl would do this all the time and no one paid it any attention. It's just something I've seen with people who work in the corporate offices of companies that are also known for less than impressive jobs. I also had a boss who was the corporate buyer for Avon in another job. She used to say that every time she said she worked for Avon people thought she was an Avon lady and it drove her crazy. He just finished school with a BA etc and wants to get an MBA by habit he probably shifted the way he talked about it. I don't think it's necessarily something omnious but it does show that he thought highly of himself and wanted people to take him seriously.

 

[Sonya610]

C: Is she putting her husband's "needs" above her own?

Or is she setting up a future defense? He was the "leader", she was the supportive wife, she was brainwashed into thinking he is such a great guy etc...

So far it does seem like she was a bit brighter and more successful than he was, he appears to be a [modsnip] low level IT guy (hate to stereotype but most of us are aware of that type, they are typically not considered to be suave charasmatic personas that manage to manipulate the ladies with their machismo and sex appeal).

I can't help but wonder who wore the pants in that family.

 

[Chewy]

"First of all*Ross, I love you and I'm doing this for you,*OK?" she said.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/28/us/georgia-toddler-funeral/index.html

This.
It is gnawing my craw!
A: it sounds like she needs validation from him.
B: There is no mistake. She says she's doing it for him.

NOT US.

C: Is she putting her husband's "needs" above her own?

I think people are reading too much into this statement. He's supposed to be the leader and the one running the funeral. But he can't be there, so she's doing it for him. That's how I took the statement from the mother.

 

[gngr~snap]

I think people are reading too much into this statement. He's supposed to be the leader and the one running the funeral. But he can't be there, so she's doing it for him. That's how I took the statement from the mother.

Jmo- she sounds more like a terminally mental/verbally abused wife, that is scared to death that the system is going to fail her and let that killer out to come after her.

ok?

I do not like the tone of it. moo

 

[Sonya610]

Jmo- she sounds more like a terminally mental/verbally abused wife, that is scared to death that the system is going to fail her and ket that killer out to come after her.

ok?

I do not like the tone of it. moo

Exactly...possibly the groundwork for a defense strategy and the jury might gobble it up (should it come to that).

 

[believe09]

All I can figure out about the standing ovation is that it must be indicating that they don't think he should be in jail. And they are 'supporting' him.

But I don't understand the urgent need to do so during COOPER"S TIME. I doubt that Cooper would be giving his Daddy a thumb's up or a high five right now.

Tragic accidents happen every day. But this one was totally avoidable. Especially since he had his 'premonition' a few days earlier. :facepalm:

Piggy backing off of the funeral questions. When did the new warrant info come out confirming the hot car searches? Wasn't it the morning of the funeral? I can see the possibility of the people attending being unaware, including Mom. I cant imagine LE is giving her much info at this point until they rule her completely out. Which doesn't mean she is guilty of anything other than loving her baby and loving her husband and being crushed by grief so that she is holding on to the one who is still alive. JMHO.

 

[stmarysmead]

If the daycare was Home Depot sponsored, I am betting that it was his routine to drop the child off every day. He is the one going to work right in the vicinity every day. This is another issue for me and I'll tell you why.

I take my granddaughter to nursery school in town three days a week. I follow the same route into town, turning off at the side street that leads to her school. Recently, on a day that she was NOT with me, I turned into that side street unnecessarily. Why? Because I was "distracted"....I did what is my most frequent routine. I was on auto-pilot.

So, if after just 5 minutes, after actually handling and interacting with his child, Dad was so very terribly distracted , why wasn't he on auto-pilot too? Why didn't he get off or turn where he always turns on that highway?

How come he was alert enough to decide to go a different way? Going a different way requires a certain level of concentration. We all understand that difference.

I want to know how often HE drops off the child. If it's every morning, then a distracted Dad would not be "with it" enough to deliberately bypass the daycare.

 

[Chewy]

If the daycare was Home Depot sponsored, I am betting that it was his routine to drop the child off every day. He is the one going to work right in the vicinity every day. This is another issue for me and I'll tell you why.

I take my granddaughter to nursery school in town three days a week. I follow the same route into town, turning off at the side street that leads to her school. Recently, on a day that she was NOT with me, I turned into that side street unnecessarily. Why? Because I was "distracted"....I did what is my most frequent routine. I was on auto-pilot.

So, if after just 5 minutes, after actually handling and interacting with his child, Dad was so very terribly distracted , why wasn't he on auto-pilot too? Why didn't he get off or turn where he always turns on that highway?

How come he was alert enough to decide to go a different way? Going a different way requires a certain level of concentration. We all understand that difference.

I want to know how often HE drops off the child. If it's every morning, then a distracted Dad would not be "with it" enough to deliberately bypass the daycare.

This is such a good observation and I think something that hasn't been examined enough. He's trying to play the "I forgot card" too many times IMO. IOW if he "thought" he dropped him at day care, then why didn't he instinctively go to daycare right after work??

It's especially hard to believe since the daycare is right on the same grounds as his job.

I'd also be interested in knowing when he made his plans to meet his friends. Because if that's his "alibi" that he had plans with friends, it doesn't add up either. If he made the plans with his friends PRIOR to that day, then he'd have considered Cooper and his needs for pick up and drop off.

I'd also like to know more about when the mom picked him up from daycare.

 

[Melanie]

"First of all Ross, I love you and I'm doing this for you, OK?" she said.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/28/us/georgia-toddler-funeral/index.html

This.
It is gnawing my craw!
A: it sounds like she needs validation from him.
B: There is no mistake. She says she's doing it for him.

NOT US. (meaning she and him) -not the public.

C: Is she putting her husband's "needs" above her own?

BBM - I still don't get what that means "she's doing this for him". Doing what? Having a funeral for their dead child? Supporting him?

It just sounds so bizarre.

MOO

Mel

 

[Melanie]

I think people are reading too much into this statement. He's supposed to be the leader and the one running the funeral. But he can't be there, so she's doing it for him. That's how I took the statement from the mother.

But what is she expected to do? Pull a Casey Anthony and wait to have a memorial service until after he is acquitted? Scott Peterson wanted the same thing. If he's supposed to be the leader of the family, he failed miserably. Now would be the time for her and her support team to take over.

IMHO, I think the "I'm doing this for you" has a different meaning, but I can't put my finger on it.

Of course this is my opinion only. I certainly value your opinion too.

MOO

Mel

 

[NancyA]

I'm very interested to read what's coming out about RH's personality especially about what is becoming clear about his over-developed sense of self-importance. Thing is Little Man syndrome is not necessarily about physical stature it's about perceived inner stature and it's not just a male phenomenon either. Many people hate that they are not seen as being as significant as they think they should be hence they 'big up' their professional/economic/social status. What are actually perfectly respectable jobs don't sound 'good' enough so their titles and responsibilities and how vital they are to the day to day running of a company are enhanced. RH can't just explain he's in IT at Home Depot corporate he has to emphasise he's working for a Fortune 500 company.

Where I work we acquired another smaller company in the same industry, the previous owners had given everyone there, who work doing the exact same jobs as the employees at the site where I work, very important-sounding titles so where we have machinists and inspectors they have CNC Professionals and Directors of Quality, we have buyers they had Procurement and Acquisition Specialists. I'm the office manager at our site but our sister company has a far more prestigious-sounding Executive of Administration. She told me at a company social that she's always told people she's an office manager because if she said Exec. Admin. there'd follow a whole q & a about what that is and she'd end up saying "well, it's basically office management." My boss joked early on in the acquisition process that she felt intimidated by the very grandeur of her prospective employees' titles being a mere owner and all and was tempted to make an order that we must all refer to her going forward as the Supreme Overlady.

 

[believe09]

I think there is a possibility that she was referring to participating in the call on speaker phone at her son's funeral. Perhaps this is her very last moment of participating in a charade of this kind. I hope, anyway. She wanted Cooper so much. This little man lay in bed with his mother and his killer hours before he was murdered. (I see it as a murder.) His mother drank in his beauty and then the father of her son murdered her son with extreme cruelty.

 

[Violet1820]

Exactly...possibly the groundwork for a defense strategy and the jury might gobble it up (should it come to that).

Interesting that she won't speak to the media directly, but used her son's funeral as a platform to do exactly that. IMO this was done because given the arena the media could not ask questions back. For just having lost her only child, she is holding togther quite well. I also think this she should have been doing this for Cooper and not Ross. To each their own, but I can't stop thinking about how if this were me, even if this were a horrible accident, I would not be able to forgive my husband so quickly. Let alone speak to him, hear his voice, or request a round of applause for him while standing next to my child's casket. Just as a disclaimer, I am not bashing the mother, just saying I can't understand it.


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[stmarysmead]

BBM - I still don't get what that means "she's doing this for him". Doing what? Having a funeral for their dead child? Supporting him?

It just sounds so bizarre.

MOO

Mel

Everything about that funeral tells me that her husband is her priority at the moment. Maybe she feels that it is too late to save her child but she is going to pull out all the stops to save him.

This is not a criticism but an observation. She is sending a clear message. I would also add...a defiant message as well. She certainly saw to it that her husband was "present" and involved in that funeral, despite the authorities refusing to let him be there. Symbolically, talking to him on the phone all the way out of the church...well, that was a defiant message to the authorities. "You cannot keep him away! We went around you!"

As I have said before...she hasn't had time yet to process the reality of the situation.

 

[Sonya610]

Looks like the Home Depot Corporate Child Care center is operated by Bright Horizons

The website says:

All of our early education and preschool centers include:

• Well planned spaces with rounded corners and soft surfaces
• Secure areas that keep children constantly within sight, indoors and out
• Careful Transition Tracking procedure for moving children from place to place
• Computerized front-desk check-in to ensure security
• Strict hand-washing, sanitary and Staying Healthy policies to prevent the spread of germs

http://www.brighthorizons.com/child-health-safety

Since they have "computerized check in" and since there are numerous automated services that will send text or recorded messages to alert parents that kids were not dropped off etc.... I would bet this center had that option too!

Especially if Dad was so worried about leaving his kid in the car, did he inquire about getting notified by the center if he "forgot" the baby on the way to work? Did he get notified and not respond? Did he tell the center the child would NOT be in that day? LE probably knows the answer to all of those questions.

 

[BrownRice]

from Ross reddit
no way in hell my "groom's cake" is having anything Auburn on it. It's the "groom's cake". Not the "our cake". The groom's cake is the one and only thing at the wedding that is only*his.

o boo boo!
really?

Nothing sinister. It's a southern thing. A smaller cake is made for the groom that has a hobby of his (fishing, golf, favorite sports team, etc.) I had never heard of it before we lived in NC. Very common. As is a man having a "fancy" wedding ring and an everyday one. You learn things everyday living in the South.

 

[BrownRice]

Another damning tidbit....when dad left work that afternoon (supposedly thinking he had left the baby at daycare and not in the car) he did NOT HEAD TOWARD THE DAYCARE to pick him up!

He went in another direction and then stopped and "discovered" the body!

I thought he already said he was going out with friends after work? If so, then it would make sense he was not going towards day care.