Agree. Did he research time as well as temperature?
Yes, he did.
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Agree. Did he research time as well as temperature?
Exactly. Notice he didn't drive to the nearest ER. There must be a hospital somewhere nearby. He also made sure he wasn't the one who made the 911 call, which is obviously recorded, and will likely be played in court.
We aren't bunnies, and we don't live in Sub-Saharan Africa. Laws reflect society. We don't have to walk miles to get clean water, we aren't fuzzy and eat our babies, and we can't negligently leave a child to die and get away with.
Agree. Did he research time as well as temperature?
Well, people aren't like deer, or bunnies. Not in the least bit. Not even related in any meaningful way. Comparing us to other primates would be a lot more relevant. Gorillas and chimps (our closest ancestors) take care to keep their babies cared for and safe. They carry them around, keep them close, or leave them with "babysitters" and older siblings in the group to care for if they need to venture far.
http://www.parents.com/baby/safety/car/danger-of-hot-car-for-children/
" Edwards brought Jenna back to the van and strapped her into her rear-facing car seat. "I was talking and singing to her," she recalls. "Five minutes into the drive Jenna started to sing in this little voice she uses when she's sleepy. I had a child-safety mirror, and when I looked in it I could see that she was going to fall asleep." Edwards thought about how much she wanted Jenna to stay asleep and finish her morning nap once she got to the babysitter's. "In a very detailed way, I visualized getting there, walking around to the backseat door, unbuckling her straps, getting her out very gingerly, and covering her ears so the babysitter's door wouldn't wake her. I pictured myself saying to the babysitter, 'Jenna's sleeping. Can I lay her in the crib?'"
For the next 15 minutes, Edwards drove toward the babysitter's. But instead of driving past her workplace and traveling another half block to the sitter's house on the next street, she pulled into her office parking lot. "I parked my car," she recalls. "My bags were in the front seat. I walked around and I got them out, and I went in to work" -- leaving Jenna in the car on a 92°F day for the next seven hours."
It is just not as crazy as it seems. It happens. It just happens. Tragically.
Here's the Georgia statute for cruelty to children with second degree bolded.
If I'm understanding things correctly, in order for felony murder to apply, the state must show "criminal negligence" on JRH's part for second degree child cruelty. If not, than involuntary manslaughter would be a possible charge.
http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/gacode/
Act of criminal negligence, not an intentional act. Lindsey v. State, 262 Ga. 665 (1993). Criminal negligence necessarily implies, not only knowledge of probable consequences which may result from the use of a given instrumentality, but also willful or wanton disregard of the probable effects of such instrumentality upon others likely to be affected thereby. Criminal negligence is something more than ordinary negligence. Criminal negligence is the reckless disregard of consequences, or a heedless indifference to the rights and safety of others, and a reasonable foresight that injury would probably result. Bohannon v. State, 230 Ga. App. 829 (1998).
He is being held with no bond, right? That is pretty impressive for a guy who seems to have strong ties to the community regarding a case that some people feel is an accidental death with no direct evidence of a crime.
You don't choose who you believe. You choose a verdict based on what the evidence causes you to believe.
Seriously do these people expect anyone to believe that they never heard of a child dying from being left in a car? Especially living in the hot south. This isn't something you need to google, it's comon sense that if you leave a child in a car for even an hr or 2 or 7 hrs. they will die, or have a devastating injury. The fact that the mother admitted she also searched the same thing(the LE would have caught it) just gives me the chills.
And who are these people that gives a person charged with felony murder of his 22 month old son who calls into the funeral a standing ovation? Me being shocked is an understatement.:banghead: I didn't read everything he said. Did he mention Cooper at all?
And waited until the hottest day to do it.
We are still waiting on confirmation he didn't park in his usual covered spot, instead the other side if the building in full sun.
IMO
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This woman was on a 25 min drive and her child fell asleep 5 min into the ride.
RH forgot about his kid one minute after pulling out of the Chikfilla. That is what I have a hard time believing.
Male primates sometimes kill their young or the young of others.
Mothers tend instead to abandon..
Still, point is lost on me.
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I understand where you're coming from but have to disagree to an extent - how many trials do we hear discussed that cover "credibility of the witness"?
I think it carries quite a bit more weight.
Criminal negligence in Georgia.
So the state will have to show "willful or wanton disregard" on the child cruelty charge if they want to proceed with felony murder if I'm reading this correctly.
http://www.avvo.com/legal-guides/ugc/the-crime-of-reckless-conduct-in-georgia
WAIT a minute. He KNEW by that time that his child was sitting in that heatbox for 7 hrs. So why would he think he was blue from 'choking'?
Willful and wanton conduct means “acting consciously in disregard of or acting with a reckless indifference to the consequences, when the Defendant is aware of her conduct and is also aware, from her knowledge of existing circumstances and conditions, that her conduct would probably result in injury.” [Duncan v. Duncan (In re Duncan), 448 F.3d 725, 729 (4th Cir. Va. 2006)]
That was 15 minutes. This was a less than 3 min. drive- just down the block after he had physically put him into his car seat!!!:snooty: And after the research on temps of kids dying in hot cars. Not buying that it was an accident!http://www.parents.com/baby/safety/car/danger-of-hot-car-for-children/
" Edwards brought Jenna back to the van and strapped her into her rear-facing car seat. "I was talking and singing to her," she recalls. "Five minutes into the drive Jenna started to sing in this little voice she uses when she's sleepy. I had a child-safety mirror, and when I looked in it I could see that she was going to fall asleep." Edwards thought about how much she wanted Jenna to stay asleep and finish her morning nap once she got to the babysitter's. "In a very detailed way, I visualized getting there, walking around to the backseat door, unbuckling her straps, getting her out very gingerly, and covering her ears so the babysitter's door wouldn't wake her. I pictured myself saying to the babysitter, 'Jenna's sleeping. Can I lay her in the crib?'"
For the next 15 minutes, Edwards drove toward the babysitter's. But instead of driving past her workplace and traveling another half block to the sitter's house on the next street, she pulled into her office parking lot. "I parked my car," she recalls. "My bags were in the front seat. I walked around and I got them out, and I went in to work" -- leaving Jenna in the car on a 92°F day for the next seven hours."
It is just not as crazy as it seems. It happens. It just happens. Tragically.