Archangel7
Verified Law Enforcement
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LLPH vs POGG
In a "free" and "democratic society" with a Constitution/Charter etc. one has not only the expectation, but the right to go uninterrupted in daily life by the "State's Agents." To interfere, and demand "papers comrade" is a violation.
A brief, casual stop by authorities while on foot to simply inquire and quickly investigate is not illegal. Neither is a traffic stop for cause, then finding burglary tools and making notes of it(208).
Any difference in the actual physical enactment of the use of 208 type cards is likely due to a difference in philosophy about words like citizen/subject, individual rights vs. societal rights, Life Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness, Peace Order and Good Government.
If a "208" is used properly it is useful especially with gangbangers, burglars, etc. yet has a HUGE potential for misuse and things like quotas.
I've filled out many but never heard the word "required" or the word "quotas" mentioned.
Very odd that TPS metrics demanded it.
It would be very interesting to know the circumstances behind and the backstory of the actual obtaining of DM's 208.
In a "free" and "democratic society" with a Constitution/Charter etc. one has not only the expectation, but the right to go uninterrupted in daily life by the "State's Agents." To interfere, and demand "papers comrade" is a violation.
A brief, casual stop by authorities while on foot to simply inquire and quickly investigate is not illegal. Neither is a traffic stop for cause, then finding burglary tools and making notes of it(208).
Any difference in the actual physical enactment of the use of 208 type cards is likely due to a difference in philosophy about words like citizen/subject, individual rights vs. societal rights, Life Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness, Peace Order and Good Government.
If a "208" is used properly it is useful especially with gangbangers, burglars, etc. yet has a HUGE potential for misuse and things like quotas.
I've filled out many but never heard the word "required" or the word "quotas" mentioned.
Very odd that TPS metrics demanded it.
It would be very interesting to know the circumstances behind and the backstory of the actual obtaining of DM's 208.