sorrell skye
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Not anymore. Many schools are dropping it from the curriculum
This is, IMO, an example of why it may not be a good idea to stop teaching it.
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Not anymore. Many schools are dropping it from the curriculum
Not anymore. Many schools are dropping it from the curriculum
He is trying to use her bad use of the english language against her to make her seem like a liar. Is that fair? NOPE. MO
He is trying to use her bad use of the english language against her to make her seem like a liar. Is that fair? NOPE. MO
Why? I know you already have your mind made up, but I don't. In my opinion, as stated before, I honestly think that West is repeated the same questions just to make sure she understands the questions he has asked. He is also trying to understand her answers.
He is also trying to impeach her, which requires West to ask questions again, in order to hear her answers.
Not anymore. Many schools are dropping it from the curriculum
You can believe whatever you want. Seems you feel it was okay that GZ was being viciously attacked (eyes blacken, nose broken, repeated getting his head slammed against the concrete). Yeah, he had no right to defend himself!! And since TM had him pinned down on the ground, George did not have the option of running away. You make it sound like TM was shot merely because he was walking home minding his own business. Not so. This incident never would have happened if TM didnt physically attack GZ.
Let's hear the recording. Although it may not be clear no matter how many times it is heard....
C'mon now, you can't present a lawyer with variously worded answers and not expect him to try to pin them down or exploit their differences.
Why? I know you already have your mind made up, but I don't. In my opinion, as stated before, I honestly think that West is repeating the same questions just to make sure she understands the questions he has asked. He is also trying to understand her answers.
He is also trying to impeach her, which requires West to ask questions again, in order to hear her answers.
Why isn't the judge admonishing her? Shouldn't she? OMG - this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever watched! I mean I get the judge is pro prosecution but give me a break with the girl's attitude. She's not making any friends and the jury can't be ok with this. It's SO hard to listen to.
This case has been deeply troubling to me from the beginning for a variety of reasons, beginning with the Martin family's and their attorney's efforts to mislead the public and manipulate public opinion by offering photographs of Trayvon Martin that were at least five years old. The blatant attempt to make TM look more vulnerable to the public than the 6'0 160 17 year old that GZ encountered that night is a shameful misrepresentation on the part of the Martin family that continues to be kicked under the carpet.
To that, I will add that I was deeply disturbed by the tacit support the Martin family lawyer lent to the New Black Panther Party putting a "dead or alive" bounty out on George Zimmerman prior to his arrest. TNBBP is an organization that has been rejected by the original BBP and is characterized by the The Southern Poverty Law Center as "a virulently racist and anti-Semitic organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites, Jews and law enforcement officers..."
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...-party-offers-10k-bounty-for-george-zimmerman
Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. This is mine: the Facebook and Twitter content of TM is absolutely relevant to understanding the person that GZ encountered that night. Far from being the sweet faced 12 year old depicted in the photos provided by the family and their lawyer to the media, he was a recreational drug user and underage drinker who, by his own admission, was involved in multiple assaults of others and who was in the process of trying to illegally obtain a weapon. If I'm not mistaken, THC was found in his system at autopsy. He had been expelled from school and kicked out of his mother's home and sent to live with his father when she could no longer control him.
I find it interesting that we have had so many conversations about the value and accuracy of our personal intuition in so many other cases yet no one is prepared to give GZ the benefit of his intuition.
Finally, I'm just confounded by the talking heads (and some members here) who are willing to bend over backward to justify the deplorable courtroom behavior of yesterday's 'star witness' and the justifications offered here for the racial slurs used by TM. I can only speculate as to the reasons for that so I won't go into any detail. Her Twitter account was recently scrubbed of her references to getting drunk, stoned and driving under the influence and I believe that all of that goes to her credibility:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/zimmerman-witness-gets-twitter-scrub-748092
At this point, I have seen nothing from the Prosecution that would allow me, in good conscience, to convict GZ of anything. Then again, the case hasn't been fully presented or defended yet so I'm reserving judgment until then.
Dear Posters,
Please, I AM BEGGING YOU, stop insulting the witness. WE DON'T NEED THAT TYPE OF POSTING.
Yes, post that you can't understand her
Yes, post that you don't believe her
Yes post that she is disrespectful in your opinion
But PLEASE STOP with the 3rd grade references and insults.
Here is what you do, If what you post is an insult don't post it.
If what you post is an opinion on what she is saying or what she is doing and it does not insult her as a human being the post it.
We will start timing people out.
PLEASE?????
Thank you,
Tricia
Except you seem to be discounting that TM could have been the one defending himself!
Even if TM did all that you said, which I am not in that camp but for argument let's go with it, how do you know that it wasn't TM defending himself from someone following him and trying to detain him...unlawful detainment since he has NO AUTHORITY to do that...then GZ can't be defending himself from someone defending themselves.
It doesn't work that way.
GZ did not say - then or now - that he identified himself as Neighborhood Watch or anything else. So to TM, he literally was some creepy guy following him.
TM had NO IDEA what GZ's intentions were. If GZ didn't tell him, that's on GZ.
And I cannot in anyway excuse him for doing what he did that night that his actions lead to the death of Trayvon Martin.
That's what this case is about for me. His actions lead to the death of another person.