George's testimony at trial

[atthelake]

It seems clear today that the defense is trying to show the denial by ALL of the Anthony family. JB pushed and pushed George as to his denial for the smell. With GA and CA and LA etc in denial looking back, they will say that KC did the same thing. They will use the fact that GA and CA etc supported her against the witnesses, and supporting their theory. I want to reach out to them and tell them to state on the stand the "yep, we perhaps thought something was "hinky", but as in this court, she was innocent until proven guilty. " They IMO are perhaps so scared of perjury, but I notice the words under sworn are very carefully chosen by George...."I believed" etc. He won't get nailed on perjury for that.........no one can question what he believed.

 

[roseofsharon]

Lots more information in this interview -- hmmm -- did anyone else hear that GA had had a mini stroke?

 

[LancelotLink]

I am just going back over GA testimony and grabbed some of SB testimony first. Odd that JB made a point of asking SB about GA telling him the car had been had been at Amscot.

One of his last questions.

SB said yeah, he said that.

Hmmm.

 

[GiantPickle]

You know? I felt so odd when JB was mocking George. It was too much, almost as if he were overacting.
This whole testimony from GA has left me stunned. This whole trial so far has.

I heard a few things today that raised a red flag. Silly things. Things you would not lie about, and yet.

George told the jury that he called Amscot after he got to work, after he picked up the car. Why would he say that? SB said he told him at the tow yard he had talked to Amscot and they had told him the car had been there three days.

Why lie about this? He had every right to call about his car. And yet...

He told the jury he didn't ask SB to accompany him to the trunk. He did. In every interview he discusses the tow yard, he made certain he said SB was with him. Why lie about this? Something so innocuous and you lie about it.


This is starting to stink. :banghead:

Its three years later - things are bound to change. I also think there are fluid movements that are being picked apart second by second that seem A LOT larger actions than they are....follow me? Like the two of them are staring at each other both silently acknowledging what they are smelling, a small comment is made, one takes a step toward the trunk, raises an eyebrow and the other follows. Its a two second exchange but when asked about it - it would be "Did you ask SB to accompany you to the trunk" well the answer is "kinda" ....so it is completely normal to me that the answer could be either or. Also...it's three years later....who remembers those little details. All of the answers could be "I might have."

What George needs to do is tell it like it is.....

"We did call 911 that day."
"We called 911 THREE times that day"
"My wife even drove to the station THAT DAY"

also -

"I can only tell you that I sit here as a man who wanted so badly to believe the reason my daughter was MIA and not responding to my wife's request to bring the baby home was just angst...something that was going to blow over. Denial set in in that moment and ate me alive for the next year..."

 

[lib's mom]

That's just not true. He told the truth in LE interviews. Rewatch them if you do not believe me.

No, I believe you! I've watched them alot and you're correct. I should have said so about the LE interviews. And he did tell the truth. Until it got to tough for him (I guess cause Cindy got ahold of him.) And then GA did what was easiest and that was to go along with party line. I think he would still be going along with the party line if he wasn't being called a child rapist.

 

[whiteangora]

To me, when someone says 'surprise, surprise', it means 'figure the odds' or 'go figure' or 'what else is new?' as in that would be an obvious conclusion for peeps to make and/or, surprise, surprise they're saying what really happened.

Whether or not only GA and KC knew that Caylee drowned at that time (if true) and not CA, one can only guess. CA could be acting too for all I know or she could have
been in the dark until later on.

My hubby saw that clip last night (surprise-surprise) and he saw it as an admittance, IOW, "yep, that's what happened!"

 

[twall]

Lots more information in this interview -- hmmm -- did anyone else hear that GA had had a mini stroke?

That was a lie ICA told a Amy H. so she could get out of taking her to pick up her new car as she had told her earlier she would do.

 

[Kimster]

I'm going to start pasting posts regarding GA on the stand today - 5/27/2011

GA on Stand w/JA . . certified letter @ post office found note on front door on Sunday . . .from Johnson . . .GA didn't recognize name . . . GA couldn't get letter on Monday just got new job . . .on Tues he went to Post office . . (objection-overruled) got letter around noon . . on envelope Johnsons' towing . . .car had been towed . . .GA remembers an address on 7/30/08 GA doesn't remember address . . .GA concerned . . . though car w/kc in her posession . . .caught off guard . . .last GA knew KC was in Jacksonville FL w/car . . .CA told him that kc out town . . called CA told her he going to Johnsons to find more out . . not far from post office inquired @ reception area . . . normal procedures . . .charge over $500 . . .within 1 1/2 miles of their home . . .no regular phone call saying we have your car . ..2 weeks @ wrecker service . . no call to home as a courtesy . . .CA said she will stop @ bank, get money, CA go home to get GA & title & drivers license . . .GA thought car left someplace assumptions (overrule X2) no call from tow yard . . or kc . . GA brought gas can . . . he has picked her up before common thing to bring gas along . . .CA & GA had title & gas and went to tow yard . . .why so long, why so much $, irritated . . $500 was so expensive . . . they came to an agreement to pay less amount . . .CA was rather forceful she took more conversation . . .both were irritated to take time to get the car . . .transaction to pay ,. . .escorted to car . . .within 3' area of passenger side of car smelled pretty strong odor . . .in GA mind very concerned had smelled something like that years prior . . concerned . . .you never forget that smell . . distinct . . (JA What went through your mind? X3!) GA . . worry about his daughter and granddaughter . . .(voice cracks slightly) @ same time . . . hoping everything ok . . .didn't want to believe what smell . . not think too much ahead . . . reminded him of odor of human corpse . . .GA said at least 2 or 3 different sets of keys for each vehicle, spare set keys, no damage to passenger side or front of car . . locked . . .unlock it . . .look inside interior . .opened door odor more intense . . .no blood in car . . .didn't appear any one injured . . GA didn't see daughter. or GD in car made him feel better . . .reached over passenger window roll down . .start car . . .turn over quickly . . .both said out of gas . . .got out of car went to trunk . . looking for damage to car . . just prior unlock trunk . . .please God dont let this be KC or Caylee . .(GA voice cracks . . kc stoneface)

SB grabbed & pull out trash bag from car . . .no body in trunk . . .more relieved . . senses were telling him werenot true . . very thankful (voice cracks. . . big sigh. . kc stoneface) . . .GA noticed pizza and arm & hammer could see thru plastic. . .GA never touched the bag . . SB thought that was the smell and walked over to dumpster and tossed it in there . . .GA remembers going back to other veh. they had driven . . got gas came back w/tow operator . . .rain that day kept windows down . . drove to front gates met up w/CA they left . . .garbage bag was out but smell was still in car . . .drove home 1 1/2 miles windows down . . could n't drive w/windows up . . .no way . .. met up w/CA @ gate . . doesn't remember when comment about smell . . said get car home . . emotional state @ that time . . .get going .. leave the area . . .GA wasnt concerned about Caylee missing on 6/24th . . .emotions greater hadn't seen 16th June last time saw kc was 24th June . . 15th of July very concerned . . .proably had conversation w/tow guy . . .don't remember today . . got home around 2:00 or thereafter . . .CA followed GA home. . .pulled into garage . .open sunroof/window/trunk air it out . . raining outside . . conversation w/wife why car was there . . .why not talk to kc . . .no Caylee going to new job. . .lots of things . . .washed all the cars and vac them every weekend . . even his sons car . . changed oil rotate tires. . .GA thing to do . . .Dad's stuff. . .stain on spare tire cover . . never seen . . GA notice slight circular stain near spare covere . . .somewhat subtle . . .not black about size basketball . . .rough guess size. .liquid spill? (object-) vs. powder on surface (object leading/overrule) almost like a circle can't say liquid or powder . . .interior of car in normal condition . ..car was messy inside . . .(JA laughs maybe by your standards) . . .technical difficulty exhibit I . . .

 

[Kimster]

Pert II

jb asks if GA can step down to calendar . . . writes 13th July date he got USPS letter from front door . .. JB asks how long it takes for mail to go a mile in a half . . . GA doesn't know . . .not noticed the letter . . .CA found the letter @front door . . .JB wants to know where exact on front door . . .GA didn't see it . . .July 6-12 didn't use front door . . .not main entrance . . didn't see notice from street . . no other documents or papers on doors . . .vanilla yellow color . . .residential mail delivered down the street . . . GA usually gets mail . . CA usually gets home 5-6 usual schedule . . .GA leaves between 2 and 2:15 GA finished one job start work for another company . . .GA generally pick up the mail (JB being short & curt questioning) . . .GA thought he and CA were spending more time together that week as he thought she was home . . .entire week spent @ the home . . only 1 notice that car was towed . . (2nd notice . . .object not in evidence . . sustained again sustained) GA not aware if 2nd or 3rd or final notice came to the home . . .(fact not in evidence) JB are you aware if you received any other notices at your home . . NO. 1 notice.

clearly see front door of the door, back off the road. . u or c shaped home front door is back a little . . can see front door basically from road . . .GA wasn't asked if he called Amscot that date . . GA called later after he got to his work in early evening . . GA curious about that . . .after drove car home and went to work . . .didn't call Mr. Birch and tell him call Amscot . . no way Mr. Birch would know car was at Amscot for 3 days . . .GA did not tell him . . .went home waitfor CA to meet to go to tow yard had taken gas cans . . .usually do that ? past experience told me to take some gas . . .JB what tow yard had you taken gas to? GA said knowledgable wh at to do . . JB: lucky thinking? lucky guess (object- sustained) fortunate guess . . .(object-sustained ) JB will move on . . .

Gas can have duct tape? GA doesn't remember which cans he took . . . (X3) . . . no recollection from 7/15/2008 that gas can had duct tape on it round cylinder had for 20 years . . .GA said doesn't remember which gas can . . . (asked & answered best ability . . .HHBP explain doesn't remember which one took)

GA last he saw kc 24th of June . . .far as he could remember . . . (quiet in court . . .JB setting up the Calendar) . . . .3 1/2 weeks since spoke to daughter. . . arrived @ tow yard very concerned for granddaughter . .two most precious things in your life . . . telling people about missing granddaughter . . .No . . .Didn't tell anyone granddaughter was missing . . . didn't know she was missing . . .GA said hadn't seen grand daughter or daughter . . concerned for the well being . . .before the car? GA doesn't remember exactly when the conversation . . .after July . . .weekend when LA went downtown to look for kc . . .active participation on behalf of wife & son to find KC. . .on this date GA is concerned . . ."elevated state" as compared to the 24th . . .more concerned . . .smelled human decomp in the car . . . never forget . . distinctive . . .smelled as detective many times . . . got in the car before open trunk asked SB to walk around and open trunk w/GA (GA said no I didn't ask him) . .. 7/24/08 statement to LE page 23 . . . .lines 20-22 . . . JB reading to the jury . . . "no George . . .something wrong got to find out now . . ." . . .(JA can we approach? yes!)

 

[Kimster]

Part III

JB wants GA to admit he wanted to be distanced from any part of this case. . . GA asking if he could have some length . . .JB yesbut please answer . . . GA said if I did ask that . . .I would have been a stand up guy . . .I would do something if I thought something really wrong I would do something . . . trunk open (while you were a good guy) .objection -sustained . . .opened trunk already had smell . all I found in trunk of car was bag full of garbage. . . said a silent prayer . . .oh please don't let this be my kc or cayleee. . .. smelled even stronger smell of human decomp . . already smelled it prior to getting into car . . . trying to answer your question . . all I found in trunk was plastic bag with garbage . . .not asking what found . . .opened trunk even stronger smell of human decomp . . got weaker? no . . .you are not going to trick me . . .I already answered you . . .smell of human decomp . . .not asking what you saw . . .what did you smell? GA looks to JA and said come on! Mr Ashton cannot help you . . . GA said I will answer you 4th time NO.

As a police officer smell that smell before (you brought up my background not me-GA) . . .I didn't know was evidence at that time . . haven't seen Daughter or Granddaughter . . . did you call 911 . . .GA I never called 911 . . I didn't call police or my daughter . . . to inquire about her or Caylee @ the time . . .know if you smell potential body in car . . you know as detective that is a crime scene . . . I wasn't detective @ the time . . .wish there were alot things done . . .

if you move that car with evidence you are tampering . . . GA if I would have known @ the time . . . JB move that car - destroy potential evidence . . .gA if I knew @ the time evidence . . .drive car home . . .air it out . . .go to work . . don't call police . . .don't tell other security officers @ job . . car smelled of dead body (object- argumentative - sustained) . . .

GA I didn't mention anything about my personal life @ work to anyone . . .same evening police arrived @ home . . .wife call police . . . .(object-sustain) . . .smell of car . . (object-sustain) . . .Jb I would cite v .. . go after this date to go to LE for a private discussion with LE about smell in this car . . .7/24 statement . . .did you go there

do anything to bring daughter & granddaughter home . . . told LE about the smell . . part of investigation . . .refresh recollect show transcript . . . lines 2-4 . . . told them about experience . . . (sidebar? not right now) . . . smell like that out in woods in car like that in a house . . .6 months before she is found in woods. . .object-hearsay. . .approach

 

[Kimster]

Part IV

JB: you knew Caylee was dead . . .that is why you didn't question
GA NO
distance yourself . . .objection . . .sustained . . .
DT done - subject to recall . . .

JA . . .follow up on JB questions to you . . .object - commentary . overrule . . .JB asked you about distancing yourself from evidence . . . hypothetical . . .if Caylee drown . . . you took her body and hid her in a field . . .or dumped in swamp . . .there would be no evidence in the car would there? (objection-out of scope . . overrule) nothing for you to run away from would there? C
Witness stand down? Mr Baez that is what I asked . . .
GA you may step down . . .

note (Deputy moves close to JB . . .)

Recall Anthony L . . .

 

[Pink Panther]

About George not considering KC and Caylee missing when he picked up the car-- wasn't KC talking to Cindy on the phone pretty frequently, laying out all the bs about Jacksonville, Juliette Lewis, Tampa, the wreck, all that junk? I thought they both felt like they knew (as much as they could ever know) what KC and Caylee were doing. :waitasec:

I agree with you and I wish that the State has raised this with him as well. Unfortunately, he's so emotional and confused about the process and the questioning that he keeps trying to second guess and would do better just to tell it like it is. Even if he has to explain his mistakes, he would do better to tell the truth and explain than to try to cover them.

moo

ETA - His lawyer should also council him to follow Mallory's lead. She answered "I can't recall" as to whether or not she saw either CA or GA throughout the crucial period after July 3 - 15th!

 

[Rallihanna]

I don't think GA is not trying to explain; I think the state hasn't fully gotten to all of it yet.

 

[roseofsharon]

Can't help but think back to GA and KC having a father/daughter moment at the jail talking about CMA.

How did KC ever get from referencing CMA having the best of all of them to accusing her father of molestation.

Makes no sense:maddening: imo

 

[Rallihanna]

Will they be able to play the jail videos?

 

[roseofsharon]

Will they be able to play the jail videos?

It would be great to watch all the news chronologically on film from the beginning.

Hopefully, some of those tapes are state's evidence.

 

[ndrew]

Its three years later - things are bound to change. I also think there are fluid movements that are being picked apart second by second that seem A LOT larger actions than they are....follow me? Like the two of them are staring at each other both silently acknowledging what they are smelling, a small comment is made, one takes a step toward the trunk, raises an eyebrow and the other follows. Its a two second exchange but when asked about it - it would be "Did you ask SB to accompany you to the trunk" well the answer is "kinda" ....so it is completely normal to me that the answer could be either or. Also...it's three years later....who remembers those little details. All of the answers could be "I might have."

What George needs to do is tell it like it is.....

"We did call 911 that day."
"We called 911 THREE times that day"
"My wife even drove to the station THAT DAY"

also -

"I can only tell you that I sit here as a man who wanted so badly to believe the reason my daughter was MIA and not responding to my wife's request to bring the baby home was just angst...something that was going to blow over. Denial set in in that moment and ate me alive for the next year..."

I agree and think that George is in bad need of some guidance - sure wish MN was still his attorney. Not sure how much advice JA can give george at this time. I hope he can settle down and just answer the questions because he is going to spend a lot of time in that witness seat.

 

[feddup]

Baez questions GA about not knowing KC was pregnant at the wedding. That really is weird that they wouldn't know, I'm sure we all would agree.

I don't get that either but when RP questioned him he said he told him it was a private matter and they'd handle it:waitasec:
Im a little confused but then they always seemed to buy anything KC told them:sick:
And I still wonder about Caylees paternal part of family. Did they know they had a Grand daughter, too? Or was supposed dead Fathers fam not imformed? Im of the opinion that KC didnt know who the father was but just my opinion.
I think if GA would've said that he wondered....it wouldve made it more believable. It is pretty obvious its more than a case of PMS water retention.

 

[Pink Panther]

I am just going back over GA testimony and grabbed some of SB testimony first. Odd that JB made a point of asking SB about GA telling him the car had been had been at Amscot.

One of his last questions.

SB said yeah, he said that.

Hmmm.

I wrote this on another thread here as well. I think that the Defence is actually going to suggest that GA picked up the car and used it to transport Caylee's body. They've already made the outrageous suggestion that GA tried to frame KC so, why not throw the car into the mix as well. JA's "hypothetical" probably had the Defence chuckling today because they now know that the State hasn't fully understood the degree to which they (the Defence) are willing to try to take their STORY!

moo

 

[gxm]

Did I miss something here...is GA on trial for the murder of Caylee Anthony? Because today in court it sure as hell looked like it.

That's exactly what I think the defense is trying to do: Put GA on trial. Because GA is the only witness who can destroy ICA's story that Caylee accidentally drowned. If they can sufficiently discredit him, then they can plant the seed of reasonable doubt. IMO this is a very cold and calculated move on the part of the DT. It's horrible, and IMO unethical, but it appears to be all they've got. Fortunately, JB is so egotistical and hostile to GA that he appears to be overplaying his hand.