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If you don't have them mixed up, this is something to look into further. He is talking about the first of the bodies discovered - wouldn't that be MBB then?
 
I pretty sure MBB was the first to go missing. The first to be found would of been MB. But I am not 100% sure.

I can't remember ever hearing anything about MBB being dismembered. But I do remember something about MB's mother saying something but then I think everyone came to the conclusen that she ment that she was scatered by animals. And then that link was never found again or something like that. Can't remember full detales.

Here is the link to an interveiw with MW's aunt saying MW was "gutted" and "dismembered" by the serial killer.
Now I posted this link here before and thought this was an odd choice of words and IMO isn't something I would say on tv unless I was sure that is what had happen to her.
But a lot of people on here dismissed me posting this. Said it all happen to be MW's aunt making assumptions. And it turned out to be wrong and MW wasn't dismembered. I have no idea what the truth is.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwzSb623fN8"]Justice with Judge Jeanine Speaks with Aunt of Megan Waterman - YouTube[/ame]

Seems to me that there are enough rummors and family members who said someting about at least three of the girls being dismembered. That is just might be worth keeping in mind that they very well could have been dismembered.
 
giagreen said:
I pretty sure MBB was the first to go missing. The first to be found would of been MB. But I am not 100% sure.



I can't remember ever hearing anything about MBB being dismembered. But I do remember something about MB's mother saying something but then I think everyone came to the conclusen that she ment that she was scatered by animals. And then that link was never found again or something like that. Can't remember full detales.



Here is the link to an interveiw with MW's aunt saying MW was "gutted" and "dismembered" by the serial killer.

Now I posted this link here before and thought this was an odd choice of words and IMO isn't something I would say on tv unless I was sure that is what had happen to her.

But a lot of people on here dismissed me posting this. Said it all happen to be MW's aunt making assumptions. And it turned out to be wrong and MW wasn't dismembered. I have no idea what the truth is.



Justice with Judge Jeanine Speaks with Aunt of Megan Waterman - YouTube



Seems to me that there are enough rummors and family members who said someting about at least three of the girls being dismembered. That is just might be worth keeping in mind that they very well could have been dismembered.
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That was the one I was remembering. "Gutted."


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Random thought here.
So, I'm not a big fan of this guy just being able to tell the girls to leave the cell phones behind or anything. But let's just say I did believe this to be the case.
I was wondering if anyone has ever thought maybe he used another female to lure the girls in?

Part of my rejection to the convincing them to leave their cell phones behind with a high offering of pay was that I have a hard time believing any one is that stupid. Especially an escort who has been in the game for a while. I mean offering up large amounts of money and telling me to leave my cell phone at home would be red flags to me.

But if a female called me and acted as if she was wanting me for a little gift for her and her man would make me not think twice on why she was offering such a high price.
If at the end of the convo she said hey leave your cell because of some reason I would be more likely to do so. A woman would make another woman feel a little more safe and help let down some of the safety rules.

I know it might sound a little out there. But I was watching a show tonight and have been doing a little reading and have realized there are a heck of a lot more couple killers out there then I ever realized. IDK just a thought.
 
This place is real slow lately. Can anyone find the aerial photos that seaslug posted from the seaplane?
 
giagreen said:
Random thought here.
So, I'm not a big fan of this guy just being able to tell the girls to leave the cell phones behind or anything. But let's just say I did believe this to be the case.
I was wondering if anyone has ever thought maybe he used another female to lure the girls in?

Part of my rejection to the convincing them to leave their cell phones behind with a high offering of pay was that I have a hard time believing any one is that stupid. Especially an escort who has been in the game for a while. I mean offering up large amounts of money and telling me to leave my cell phone at home would be red flags to me.

But if a female called me and acted as if she was wanting me for a little gift for her and her man would make me not think twice on why she was offering such a high price.
If at the end of the convo she said hey leave your cell because of some reason I would be more likely to do so. A woman would make another woman feel a little more safe and help let down some of the safety rules.

I know it might sound a little out there. But I was watching a show tonight and have been doing a little reading and have realized there are a heck of a lot more couple killers out there then I ever realized. IDK just a thought.
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The problem I would have with the M/F theory is the time span shown here. Ten years between 2000 Manorville and Megans murder. Same person responsible for both is what I believe. That's a long time for a tag team to be doing this. Not impossible but unlikely.

A lone white male from loneguyland in my opinion
 
LR1 said:
The problem I would have with the M/F theory is the time span shown here. Ten years between 2000 Manorville and Megans murder. Same person responsible for both is what I believe. That's a long time for a tag team to be doing this. Not impossible but unlikely.
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At the risk of sounding like a broken record husband/wife boyfriend/girlfriend teams like the Wests deserve study.

Wikipedia doesn't do justice to their depravity. And they egged each other on. And the blunt truth is only Rose knows how many victims there really were/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_West
 
Robert Anderson said:
At the risk of sounding like a broken record husband/wife boyfriend/girlfriend teams like the Wests deserve study.

Wikipedia doesn't do justice to their depravity. And they egged each other on. And the blunt truth is only Rose knows how many victims there really were/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_West
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Theres a couple of documentaries on these two on youtube. Twisted duo.
 
deedee21 said:
Theres a couple of documentaries on these two on youtube. Twisted duo.
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Indeed. There are a few books that give deeper insight into the depravity.

Male/female teams are the worst of the lot. Generally speaking the male is the dominant partner, and the female is egging him on to prove she can carry her weight so to speak. They almost always torture their victims.

With the Wests, it was even worse as Rose was at least as in charge as Fred. Their signature move was to cut the kneecaps off their captives to limit their mobility.
 
Dr. and Mrs. Hackett are LISK. two sick liars.

hackett is lying all throughout his deposition
and for the record

he's a very very very ver;y very very very slick and excellent liar.
he's extrenely controlling (sorry for spelling errors)

H'es your guy and not only that.
SCPD NEVER EVER asked Hackett for any phone records
EVER. So the phone records that 48 Hours had in regards to H calling MG
were from MG.

SCPD dropped the ball.

it's all in the deposition
 
hoot owl said:
Dr. and Mrs. Hackett are LISK. two sick liars.

hackett is lying all throughout his deposition
and for the record

he's a very very very ver;y very very very slick and excellent liar.
he's extrenely controlling (sorry for spelling errors)
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If he is such a cunning liar why is it we all know he is a fantasist? I doubt there is a single WS poster that doesn't know PH dissembles.

I appreciate the stuff you posted from the deposition. I had thought they were all sealed but stand corrected. Thanks.

But this is a G4 thread.
 
Aleph said:
That was the one I was remembering. "Gutted."


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We think LISK is a dismemberer. Probably a deflesher as well.

Sorry to be graphic. It's one of the issues of true crime discussion; on the one hand I always want to write as if the victims' families might read this but on the other hand the victims are best served by the truth.
 
giagreen said:
Random thought here.
So, I'm not a big fan of this guy just being able to tell the girls to leave the cell phones behind or anything. But let's just say I did believe this to be the case.
I was wondering if anyone has ever thought maybe he used another female to lure the girls in?
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This is the heart of our theory. Have you heard our podcast?

What is simpler than saying we will pay extra for a threesome?
 
Robert Anderson said:
Indeed. There are a few books that give deeper insight into the depravity.

Male/female teams are the worst of the lot. Generally speaking the male is the dominant partner, and the female is egging him on to prove she can carry her weight so to speak. They almost always torture their victims.

With the Wests, it was even worse as Rose was at least as in charge as Fred. Their signature move was to cut the kneecaps off their captives to limit their mobility.
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If its a G4 thread, why are you posting about Rose and Fred?
 
Robert Anderson said:
At the risk of sounding like a broken record husband/wife boyfriend/girlfriend teams like the Wests deserve study.

Wikipedia doesn't do justice to their depravity. And they egged each other on. And the blunt truth is only Rose knows how many victims there really were/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_West
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If its a G4 thread, why are you posting about the Wests?
 
Aleph said:
That was the one I was remembering. "Gutted."


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This is another link to the MO of those from Manorville etc. Also, remember there were parts of Melissa found later on after the initial discovery which may support dismemberment and another link.

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SearchingMike said:
This is another link to the MO of those from Manorville etc. Also, remember there were parts of Melissa found later on after the initial discovery which may support dismemberment and another link.
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Great point Searching Mike. I keep forgetting about that aspect of Melissa's case.
 
SearchingMike said:
This is another link to the MO of those from Manorville etc. Also, remember there were parts of Melissa found later on after the initial discovery which may support dismemberment and another link.

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Were you posting a link because I don't see it...I can't support what you say about Melissa - not true. None of the G4 were dismembered. Dormer addresses it in this video. Sorry I don't remember the time stamp, but please watch if you haven't seen it before
.[video=youtube;ZHDbzfMsGfI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHDbzfMsGfI[/video]
 
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