Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 6 murders, July 2023 #12

[Ursamajr]

I'd almost swear he started 80s. RH is so profoundly twisted, he may even have started in his late teens, MOO

I've been looking into cases starting 1981 - the year Heuermann graduated high school. The only thing that gives me pause is that in his notes "HK 2002-2004" He writes as if he is testing methods for the first time. Though (thinking out loud now) maybe he was just switching up his M/O at that time? He might have used firearms before that? He wrote that he was worried about sound leakage. He was switching to rope, in particular thin to thick. He tried it at least once and it had broken.

Or maybe he was just clinically speaking, depersonalizing as if he were reviewing someone else.

 

[snarast]

I've been looking into cases starting 1981 - the year Heuermann graduated high school. The only thing that gives me pause is that in his notes "HK 2002-2004" He writes as if he is testing methods for the first time. Though, thinking out loud now, maybe he was just switching up his M/O at that time? He might have used firearms before that. He wrote that he was worried about sound leakage. He was switching to rope, in particular thin to thick. He tried it at least once and it had broken.

Or maybe he was just clinically speaking, depersonalizing as if he were reviewing someone else.

I started a thread for this a few days ago starting at 1981 (weird coincidence)- the Tammy Mahoney case.

Possible victims

This is mostly a hunch based on facial symmetry (a pet pieve) but what do you think or do you have other speculations you feel are interesting enough to share? I recently noticed the horrific story surrounding Tammy Mahoney’s disappearance. And I was struck by her physical similarity to Maureen...

www.websleuths.com

 

[iamshadow21]

I've been looking into cases starting 1981 - the year Heuermann graduated high school. The only thing that gives me pause is that in his notes "HK 2002-2004" He writes as if he is testing methods for the first time. Though (thinking out loud now) maybe he was just switching up his M/O at that time? He might have used firearms before that? He wrote that he was worried about sound leakage. He was switching to rope, in particular thin to thick. He tried it at least once and it had broken.

Or maybe he was just clinically speaking, depersonalizing as if he were reviewing someone else.

The press conference, it was stated that the document was created as early as 2000, and revised multiple times.

 

[Cool Cats]

I’m curious if anyone here has read the book “Mind Hunter” mentioned in the documents today? If it’s graphic I would not be able to read it, but wonder if it could provide any more insight?

Don't read it, too graphic. I am very disturbed to this day.... Or read it and brace yourself....Opinion

 

[Ursamajr]

I started a thread for this a few days ago starting at 1981 - the Tammy Mahoney case.

Possible victims

This is mostly a hunch based on facial symmetry (a pet pieve) but what do you think or do you have other speculations you feel are interesting enough to share? I recently noticed the horrific story surrounding Tammy Mahoney’s disappearance. And I was struck by her physical similarity to Maureen...

www.websleuths.com

AMAZING Thank you! I'm working on a map and will add what I'm missing.

 

[Ursamajr]

The press conference, it was stated that the document was created as early as 2000, and revised multiple times.

Thanks, I missed that. I wonder if they were able to retrieve the notes from those dates as well.

 

[Mrs.A]

The press conference, it was stated that the document was created as early as 2000, and revised multiple times.

Sandra Costilla was found in 1993. So he was killing before he made that document.

 

[iamshadow21]

Sandra Castilla was found in 1993. So he was killing before he made that document.

Oh, yes, I agree. In 1993, that's pre Windows 95, it would have been Windows 3.1, and probably a different computer entirely if he was using computers then for the same purpose.

I just mean the document they found is headed with years, but the creation of that document predates that year span by some time, and there were several revisions. So previous versions could have contained other details, pertaining to other victims or potential victims, other dump sites, other acts he wanted to perform.

One thing that hasn't been discussed on here that is of great interest to me is the mention of dumpsters in the 'DS' column, which is obviously referring to dump sites. I've mentioned Jamie Seymour before, who fits his victim profile but has never been found. If he disposed of her in a dumpster and she was not discovered by sanitation workers, that could be why. Her disappearance was right in that early '00s window with Valerie and Jessica (2005). I don't think it's a stretch to look for information in this document that could relate to her fate.

MOO

 

[Ursamajr]

Sandra Castilla was found in 1993. So he was killing before he made that document.

He must have had a big switch to his M/O starting 2002.
He references old notes in his "Recon Reports" where he lists the old count of cameras along the LIE and Southern State. He then further makes a note to follow up and count at the pick up area.

I wonder if he ever did get his hands on the lime and acid.

 

[Just K]

I’m wondering also if RH “staged” Sandra’s body to look like the others that Bittrolff was charged for murdering. To throw it off himself? My mind is all over the place!!!

Exactly, yet with Rita T in the mix, there is a chance that RH did it.

 

[Ursamajr]

DBM

 

[Helechawagirl]

Bail Application Documents

Released today. Chilling read.

 

[Just K]

IF Sandra was his first victim then she was killed soon after first wife left AND soon after his mother moved away?

I believe his mom bought the house in Palmyra in 1994- after Sandra C disappeared.

 

[Just K]

What if he started earlier? Any 1980s cases

In the other sub boards there are lists of so many UID victims that fit if you include young males as well as females. Quite a few were before 1990.

 

[Ursamajr]

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One thing that hasn't been discussed on here that is of great interest to me is the mention of dumpsters in the 'DS' column, which is obviously referring to dump sites. I've mentioned Jamie Seymour before, who fits his victim profile but has never been found. If he disposed of her in a dumpster and she was not discovered by sanitation workers, that could be why. Her disappearance was right in that early '00s window with Valerie and Jessica (2005). I don't think it's a stretch to look for information in this document that could relate to her fate.

MOO

I'm afraid all of that is lost to time. I hope he talks. He likes to brag but his penchant for torture might mean he never fully tells all. Just for the pleasure of the torment it causes. What a vile excuse for a human.

 

[Cool Cats]

So we were wondering why on earth was there days of a new search all of a sudden.

What did they find? Is this why there are new charges?

Any good articles?

 

[Forest_Wood]

So we were wondering why on earth was there days of a new search all of a sudden.

What did they find? Is this why there are new charges?

Any good articles?

And what was behind the panel walls?

 

[Ursamajr]

And what was behind the panel walls?

Were the panels taken because pushpin holes were found, like mentioned in his "Things: To Remember" notes?

 

[Just K]

And what was behind the panel walls?

Apparently, his notes described learning that it is better to protect the walls with plastic by using pushpins to secure plastic coverings than to use tape. The wood panels had small holes indicating something had been pinned to the wall.

 

[iamshadow21]

Apparently, his notes described learning that it is better to protect the walls with plastic by using pushpins to secure plastic coverings than to use tape. The wood panels had small holes indicating something had been pinned to the wall.

I believe it was also mentioned that they found adhesive residue, so he obviously tried that and switched to the pins when the tape didn't perform the job to his liking, or was too difficult to remove.

Just thinking about duct tape, it's possible it wasn't sticking enough, or it stuck too much and was removing some of the finish from the wood when peeled off. Pins leave a hole, but it's tiny, and up near the ceiling. If you're not looking for pinholes, up on a ladder, you're not going to notice them.

MOO