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I don't think she was buried near the grandfathers home in Haiku. It seems more likely to me that she was either dumped in the ocean or buried in the jungle on the way to Hana.
I live on Maui, in Haiku. I have lived in Nahiku previously and am very familiar with driving that road at night. It is much different at night then in the day. Tourists aren't there are night, in fact you don't see many vehicles at all on that road at night. Keanae is not the place I would want to be at that time of night. My car did break down on that road, and it was a bit scary.
The problem with burying someone is that you have to get them deep enough to keep the smell from attracting animals. My dogs have killed a few chickens in their time, and I have learned that if not properly disposed of it will be found. The smell of death and rotting flesh is horrific, and I could only imagine it would be ten times worse with something as large as a person. Hence the whole idea of 6 feet deep, which is a really big hole to dig by yourself.
More likely she went into the ocean. There are several points along Hana highway where sheer cliff faces right next to the road drop straight into the ocean. Minimal moving and a very long way down with very little access points. Her body would have just had to make it into a channel, and she would be out to sea. People get into heaps of trouble out here being swept by currents into those channels, and the north side of the island is notorious for having some bad currents.
I haven't gotten to the "What I believe" portion of my program yet . I am just coming up with possibilities. I don't know how tired Charlie was, what her actual relationship with SC was, what condition her car was in, if she had gas in the car, were her tires iffy, anything. For myself, if I had to work the next day, I would not have helped anyone that late at night, unless it was an extreme emergency. I also would not have gone out if my tires were on their last treads or my car was losing fluids. If I were broke and needed gas, I wouldn't have gone out either, unless said person I was helping offered me gas (like siphoned from another vehicle or said they had a gas can). By the same token, if a really good friend said they had gotten stuck on the side of the road down that long windy road and had left something important in it (like a wallet, phone, money) that they needed to get or the car would disappear by morning (as is wont to do on the Hawaiian islands), I might consider it.It all depends upon whether you believe that Charli would go for a drive
up Hana Hwy. with SC on a Sunday night when she was exhausted - for any reason.
If you think she would, then he could have dropped Nala off in Nahiku and done the deed in/near Keanae. Charli and Joshua could be in the ocean or buried in the dense forest.
If you think "No way she would have done that", then Charli and Joshua could be in Haiku or any place that he could have gone that would allow him to make it to Keanae by 11.
I forgot to factor in the timeline if he dropped Nala in Nahiku. That was one of my original scenarios; that he drove until Charli fell asleep, dropped Nala off in Nahiku, and then drove back down Hana Hwy.
According to Google Maps, SC's place to Nahiku is 29.5 miles, and approx. 1 hr, 18 minutes. So if they left Haiku @ 8:30 and drove straight to Nahiku, they would get there at about 9:48. It's 10.5 miles from there back to Keanae, and approx. 28 minutes, putting them in Keanae at 10:16.
Another thought: I didn't know Charli, but someone who did, someone she confided in might know the answer to these questions. What could SC have said to her to persuade her to go to his house? What could he have said to persuade her to take a drive down Hana Hwy on a dark Sunday night when she was tired? At what time did she need to be @ work on Monday?
An insider told me that parts/pieces/evidence of some sort of her cell phone were found burnt in the car. Unless that person or someone else verifies it, it is just rumor.
If I bash my phone to smithereens, throw it in the river, or throw it in a fire, will it still ring to the person that calls it? The service is still active. Anyone know?
So little information, so many possibilities, and the only one that doesn't make sense is the only story we have.
Whether or not she would have gone with him for a drive:
It depends on the dynamics of their relationship. If he was abusive and she was still somewhat under his 'control,' then she may have gone.
When I got pregnant and would not get an abortion he said, "you mean I have to deal with you for the next 18 years?" Later that week he threatened to kill me; he broke down the bathroom door and held my head over a full tub of water and asked me if I wanted to die.
I agree. Why would Charlie have such an app? Who would care where her pings were at, and would she care if anyone knew? I could see an app that would keep your phone pings off the radar (if there could even be such a thing), but erasing after the fact makes no sense, since those pings are still out there on the towers.BBM
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One thing that bothers me is this app that was on Charli's phone that would erase all but the last ping. Who would have an app like that? Why did Charli? It just makes no sense to me. Which makes me wonder if it was even Charli that installed that app on her phone. If you were planning on killing someone, it would be quite handy to have all their cell pings erased except for the last one where you presumably dumped or destroyed their phone. It really makes me wonder about Charli thinking that someone was breaking in through her bathroom. Why would someone break in, but not steal anything? Perhaps to install on app??? :waitasec:
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The app was Life360. The free version apparently auto-erases its history.
I don't understand. I've researched this product and as far as I can see, Life360 does nothing with actual pings. The phone still pings like it's supposed to. It might erase a history off the phone, but it doesn't erase the history from the provider. What I do see is that once a phone is turned off, Life360 does not allow you to look up the tracking history if a user was not actually logged in at the time the phone was turned off or went dead. If the phone was turned off to save battery power (I do this when I am going through an area I know doesn't have coverage because it will drain the battery incredibly fast), the app wouldn't update, either.The app was Life360. The free version apparently auto-erases its history.