Hi nikb,
Who pray tell do you think is bothering witnesses or a possible POI?
Sorry but I'm lost as to who you're referring too. :blushing:
I would say there has to be an actual witness and/or camera sighting on these streets that they have not specifically revealed, JMO.
I wonder Why these Streets
and Not
Lake
S.Evans
Schons
Fran
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Police said they have "information that the girls were seen approximately 12:23 p.m. on Brovan Blvd. and between 12:30 p.m. and 1:00 p.m. on Gilbert Dr. in the area of Meyers Lake in Evansdale."
http://www.kcci.com/news/central-iow...#ixzz26NmAn4YM
BBM
The approximate 12:23 p.m. time may have come from a surveillance video, since it is pretty specific, but what about the "between 12:30 p.m. and 1:00 p.m." time? That sounds to me like a witness(es) saw them but couldn't remember the exact time. Since this is in the area of Meyers Lake, I'd love to know if someone saw them actually heading towards the lake.
If the girls were seen between 12:30 and 1:00, maybe they wanted a quick ride to the lake before Lyric had to leave with Gma.
OR....
TG is Right and there was SOME OTHER people at the Lake on Bikes.....
What kind of people would just throw their bikes in the path and not care if others could get around them....
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Ok...
what in HECK were they doing in Elmer Ave?
This has really thrown me for a loop...
Anyone? Locals? Is there something in Elmer Ave the girls would go to? A shop maybe?
Kids that see something. They just don't think about what could happen; judgment (the ability to foresee consequences and heed them) takes quite a long time to develop.
BBM
LE has never officially commented on TG's bike sighting. Since LE never told the public about the bikes, why would they need to tell the public if the sighting was incorrect?
IMO, I don't think TG would have gotten that good of a look at the bikes if he just swerved to avoid them. He may not have noticed whether the bikes were male or female bikes.
Regarding where TG saw the bikes in relation to where Lyric and Elizabeth's bikes were found, that has been a source of great discussion. To my knowledge we have never been told specifically where TG saw the bikes when he swerved to miss them. JMO
ETA: I don't know how coincidental it is that TG saw two bikes on the trail that day, IF the bikes weren't Lyric and Elizabeth's bikes. I guess it would depend on how many people generally bike there on any given day, how many people bike in the area where TG saw the bikes, etc. Maybe it is a big coincidence, or maybe it isn't such an uncommon occurrence.
Can I ask you a question GrainnDhu...?
Don't laugh at me.....
But...
Could they take a Bloodhound on those streets NOW and find out if the girls were there...?
I have a suggestion to the members. Go to the scanner archives and read the threads during the first, say, week of this case. Well worth it, but you can't bring that info up to this thread under penalty of whatever the penalty is...lol
Anyway, I'm interested that in that email from DCI they suggest to me..that they are "almost" certain that the perp was in a vehicle "arriving" and "departing" the "area". Also, I'm interested that they are looking at video from businesses, "homes", and "elsewhere" in E'dale.
I'm interested that there is a church right next to the auction house and they share the same parking lot. IMO it is worth confirmation as to whether they attended there...my guess is that they may have. If so, were there activities that the girls participated in..with coaches...stuff like that.
I'm interested that E played ball right next to Deerwood camping the night before the disappearance.
There. A bunch to chew on.
MOO
I'm glad you here right now, because I was curious about your theory in light of this new information. I know there are probably a lot of us who are re-thinking things given this new info.
To me, it sounds like the girls were doing their neighborhood bike riding but going much further than the 2-3 blocks MCM said they were limited to.
Here's a basic Google map for that area. I'm not a map wizard like otto and others, so I won't attempt anything other than this!
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=elme...s&ei=CFZSUPmuDcrb0QHL4oH4Cw&ved=0CCEQ8stgEwAA
Looks like Elmer goes directly to the bike trail, unless I'm reading it wrong.
Where Elmer and the bike trail meet...what is there? Are there any buildings? Water?