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What if you were a construction worker? (taking a late lunch, leaving early, etc)
I guess anythings possible, but I just don't see it. jmo
What if you were a construction worker? (taking a late lunch, leaving early, etc)
Bringing some links and posts containing excellent maps forward for us.
Well, apparently the maps themselves didn't come forward.
Anyway, when I saw TT's map, it struck me that anyone in the parking lot area has a clear view to the possible abduction site of the girls and the position of their bikes. I guess I have always assumed the site was hidden by the island from the front of the park. The island is a lot further away from the site than I thought. I guess zooming in causes pictures to have a distortion in the actual view.
Also looking at HB's bing map, is the interstate elevated so someone could walk under it anywhere other than where the exits are located?
ETA - I found that clicking on the blue box next to the poster's name carries you back to that post.
ETA - I didn't mean to slight Otto and his maps which are also excellent. I just didn't find his post fast enough.
What if you were a construction worker? (taking a late lunch, leaving early, etc)
This is why is is got to be a local.
Either a local, or someone who has spent time in the area. Maybe someone who has friends or family in the area and spent vacation time with them?
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I will be surprised if there were sexual assaults on the girls.
I also think LE needs to reconsider releasing some sort of additional information to assist with finding out who did this. That is IF they have anything to release. The longer they wait, the less likely people are going to come forward saying they remember with 100% certainty something that happened that day. People forget the small details that they would have remembered within the first few days/weeks. It's been 6 months already since the girls were taken.
I don't think LE has someone who's already in jail on other charges who they think is responsible for this.
I think if LE had enough to charge someone they would...but I don't think they do. I think, just like with the discovery of the body...it will be sheer luck IF they find out who did this to these poor girls.
I know others will disagree and think I'm 100% wrong on all my theories. And that's ok. We all have our own theories and with what we DO know, I think all opinions are valid right now.:great:
I don't think you, me or anyone else on here are 100% sure about being wrong or right on any of their theories. It could be ANY of them, a mixture of any them, or none of them we don't know. :waitasec:
I don't have faith in the tip line anymore. How long ago was it you all asked me to call them and alert them to a person that may be a good person to question about being a possible accomplice in grabbing the girls. He also may have heard something from who did this, or knows a sex offender that did this. I called the tip line back then, and I see nothing in his language, facebook entries.. nothing that he has been contacted at all.
I am thinking the police have their own thoughts on who did this, and they are only acting on information if it pertains to people that match with their man.
I don't believe in the "No stone left unturned" statement in regards to this investigation. I feel they honestly think they know who did it, and if the tips involve anyone not in their theory, forget it. It would be a waste of their time to think of anyone else, they KNOW who did it. That's why we aren't hearing anything.
I think they see he is already in jail anyway, and they are just watching him. :jail:
BBM
Do you have someone in mind, or are you just speaking in general terms?
I've felt for a while that LE might have a suspect in mind, but not enough evidence to file charges. JMO. Once all forensic testing is complete, perhaps an arrest will be made.
It pays to click on things that stand out from the background. That's usually why they stand out.ETA - I found that clicking on the blue box next to the poster's name carries you back to that post.
I hope that LE have been interviewing RSOs from the Waverly and Denver areas.
Thank you for the articles Marilyn, but I'm not quite sure I can fully agree with the first....and have a few questions about their findings. This is not "at" you, just for the discussion. :seeya: I plan to go back and read the sources they listed to see what specific group stated this...and if they have updated themselves in the past 3 years.
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The majority are not exclusively attracted to children, have adult emotional relationships, and have not molested multiple child victims.
1. The article doesn't go on to say why the majority still do it if they aren't attracted to them. According to this we should be way more concerned about uncle Barney and other family and friends and forget the stranger danger. They also neglect to say "healthy" adult emotional relationships. This group may be full of manipulating emotional, mental, financial or physical abusers..?
2. They have not molested mutiple child victims? So they have only molested one child...and all the research saying child molesters cannot be rehibilitated are incorrect; along with all the reasoning behind the mandated registration of such majorities. ???
:waitasec:
I don't have faith in the tip line anymore. How long ago was it you all asked me to call them and alert them to a person that may be a good person to question about being a possible accomplice in grabbing the girls. He also may have heard something from who did this, or knows a sex offender that did this. I called the tip line back then, and I see nothing in his language, facebook entries.. nothing that he has been contacted at all.
I am thinking the police have their own thoughts on who did this, and they are only acting on information if it pertains to people that match with their man.
I don't believe in the "No stone left unturned" statement in regards to this investigation. I feel they honestly think they know who did it, and if the tips involve anyone not in their theory, forget it. It would be a waste of their time to think of anyone else, they KNOW who did it. That's why we aren't hearing anything.
I think they see he is already in jail anyway, and they are just watching him. :jail:
:waitasec:
I don't have faith in the tip line anymore. How long ago was it you all asked me to call them and alert them to a person that may be a good person to question about being a possible accomplice in grabbing the girls. He also may have heard something from who did this, or knows a sex offender that did this. I called the tip line back then, and I see nothing in his language, facebook entries.. nothing that he has been contacted at all.
I am thinking the police have their own thoughts on who did this, and they are only acting on information if it pertains to people that match with their man.
I don't believe in the "No stone left unturned" statement in regards to this investigation. I feel they honestly think they know who did it, and if the tips involve anyone not in their theory, forget it. It would be a waste of their time to think of anyone else, they KNOW who did it. That's why we aren't hearing anything.
I think they see he is already in jail anyway, and they are just watching him. :jail:
BBM -- That is what was said by the child safety program when my boys were in school. They told us that the vast majority of offenders don't offend again, they don't escalate, they can be helped by various counselling and psychotherapy programs, and they don't pose a danger to society at large.
The big problem is that there's no way to predict whether a particular individual is in that very small percentage.
But all this was from several years ago and I don't know what recent research, if any, has found.
What if you were a construction worker? (taking a late lunch, leaving early, etc)
I am not an expert in the field but I do keep up with it for reasons of my own.
What you just wrote is correct according to the most up to date research. In particular, the younger the offender at the time of the crime, the more likely it is that he will be successfully rehabilitated.
Sadly, successful rehabilitation includes having the opportunity to hold down whatever the individual thinks of as a good job and the sex offender registries make that very difficult. Anything that increases life stresses on the individual makes it more likely that individual will relapse, whether you're talking about child molestation, alcohol or meth use.
The big problem is, as you say, figuring out which perps will truly be rehabilitated and which will be repeat offenders.