Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #15

[ellieuma]

Still wondering why this case has attracted so many FBI agents...I can see one or two but 15+ seems like they suspect this could be a piece of a larger puzzle JMO

I am wondering if the FBI has decided she was likely abducted & if so, then do they have enough evidence for them to construct a behavioral profile of a person likely to do this. (purely conjecture on my part) they have a specific type of person in mind, I.e. looking at people of a certain age range, race, sex, likely in a certain type of occupation or w/ experience in an area, criminal history (I.e. stalking, or convictions on other sex-related crimes, etc), likelihood that person was unknown to her. If they’ve determined she was most likely abducted & have the time the event occurred & location, they probably have inferred a few things from this that they aren’t sharing w/ the public

 

[kay74]

We also don't know if her boyfriend told friends she was alone while he was gone or her mother or brother inadvertently told people. Someone knowing she was alone, could be the culprit who went to that house.

 

[WEL]

And in not releasing the time Mollie went missing they are missing out on the wife whose husband came home later than usual that day. Or the Mother whose son left and then returned home that Wednesday morning. Or the noises neighbors heard during the middle of the night. Nobody really knows where to focus due to NO time line!

Although I almost always defend LE when people question their decisions regarding releasing info, I can’t disagree with a thing you just mentioned.

 

[ACG2x]

And

Ex-FBI agent: Tibbetts investigation will likely have to scale back

I think so too. I am not sure how long Holly Bobo was kept alive after the “party,” but to scale back this quick is disheartening. Hope that’s not true, that investigators are scaling back. In fact, with no body, they need to scaling up. She’s out there- find her!

Totally agree with the thinking but from a what's realistic perspective I hear the guy's point. LE only has so many resources and there are many other crimes out there that need solving. I would actually be a little miffed if I were the family of other recently missing persons that MT is getting this much press, LE involvement, etc. while their loved one gets far less.

That's not to say that MT shouldn't have this much - there just shouldn't be a disparity in LE presence or MSM coverage.

 

[Cardinal47]

I was thinking about all the missing this morning and I thought to myself if we can send men to the moon why can't we find a person lying in a field or in a corn row. Surely there has to be some really smart person or group that could do this. How many bodies of those never found languish in fields and streams. Thinking too of Caylee Anthony only blocks away from her home. How come we can't find them???

 

[SteveP]

No. I didn't figure it out. I thought you were a woman who liked to knit. Thanks for tipping your hat!

I figured, with a name like Sharon Needles, it was either a woman who likes to knit, or a careless druggie! JK

 

[Iowaroots]

Hey all,
New to websleuths. Hoping I'm posting in the right spot! Mollie's case hits so close to home as I have a 23 year old daughter in Iowa and I am an Iowa native, and just happened to be visiting my mom in Grinnell when Mollie went missing. Since my mom lives at Rock Creek my first thought was they would be searching Rock Creek park/lake but we never saw any searches. If they don't know where Mollie is why aren't they searching in places like Rock Creek? Every search I see on the news is in the ditches around the hog farm.

Also, my daughter lives in Waterloo and is a teacher. She said the traffickers have been extremely bold this summer, even walking up to the playground where the kids were in recess (she's been teaching summer school). If Mollie is still living I can't help but wonder about this as a trafficking type of situation since they have been so active in Iowa this summer.

 

[Nah]

I think the fitbit and the phone were thrown somewhere on that “pig farm”. And I think that’s a very bad sign. I personally do not believe she is being held alive. Although I do think the dad probably has a guess on a suspect from their long chat and I think LE is holding that pretty close right now. But I do not think Mollie is alive. As a matter of fact, there is a good chance the person got rid of her phone and fitbit “after”. Not trying to be gloom and doom but in reality that is how most of these cases end up.

Re. the red shirt, which still bothers me....was it a plain red shirt, or a Day Care logo shirt? I thought an earlier article said it was specifically a daycare shirt. Because if so, that could even signal it could have been a coworker if Mollie somehow was able to throw it out a window or something.

 

[kkdj]

Holly Bobo was taken from her garage as she was getting into her car. Fortunately her brother and a neighbor heard screams and her brother saw her being escorted into the woods by someone he thought might have been her boyfriend. Plus there was some blood in the garage. It became obvious she had been kidnapped and by someone who had stalked her. He was a deranged druggie sociopath imo who loved the thrill of the whole thing. He was bound to do it again to someone else, yet it still took a long time for an arrest.
We have no idea if Mollie was simply met by someone that had been watching her, just waiting to seize their moment.

 

[Veracity]

Could be someone she knows from college.

Mollie, no matter, what area of her life - is a creature of habit - same town, jogged one of three routes daily, worked the same summer job again, still attending same university.

If she did get in a car, my first thought - well she most likely knew the car or the driver in some way. Dalton and she go back to HS so locals would be known to both. Now college friends??? Hmmm. I don't know. There was her roommate who was getting ready to share an apartment with her next semester.

Makes me wonder about VENN diagrams?

She clearly isn't at Daltons now. Was there something in her routine? What did she routinely eat or drink? Did she go get a bottle of pop from somewhere after so many hours of studying? Was there something that her normal Wednesday had that was altered that night? Dalton's place didn't have a washing machine like mom's? Low on detergent or shampoo? What made her open the door after a run or deviate from her routine during that particular run? There was no construction in town? The weather folks had not yet mentioned the bad or did on other Wednesday nights. Afterall, Mom's (her) house or Dalton's (where she was staying a great deal) it really wouldn't have mattered where her routine went would it?

The only thing different was all the wedding plans and Dalton/bro both being gone leaving Mollie to house/dog sit. Made me wonder if that had happened before at some point- was this the first time she was alone in any home?

At Mom's there was a full house right with her brothers. And at Daltons' there was normally two boys too!

 

[Pixie Dust]

Not if you are deviant. They like the control, the pursuit, the suffering. Sadists are rare, but they exist.

I imagine there are plenty of women-for-hire that will do whatever you want them to do, including all the above.

 

[WideOpen]

I'm quietly reading and following along.
What I am afraid of is that the media will die down and the FBI will pack up and leave town. Mollie's family and a solitary detective or two will continue to work Mollies disappearance as a cold case, with no answers or resolution. I font like hearing that they have moved the PC to friday, and then Mollies father exclaims he believes she is alive. What is it? Get Mollie home.
Seriously, the FBI isn't going to stick around and IMO they head out of town much quicker than you'd expect. Then what will Brooklyn be left with?
I pray with Mollies family that she is revealed and makes it home to them!
jmo

 

[MillyM]

Did the reported sighting on the Sheriff's fb two weeks ago of someone resembling Mollie get checked out? Whoever the jogger was seemed to been seen regularly, but hasn't been since night Mollie went missing. If was her, would put the time between 8.30-9.30pm later than the previous sighting.

 

[mrtnira]

Also WC's property seems like it is just far enough outside town to stop a vehicle and destroy a phone or fitbit to stop the trace.

This makes sense. It might have been on the potential abductor's route out of town, and the place where the electronic devices were disposed of (simply thrown out the window, for example) which creates the initial attention. But, then, the person whose property is nearby creates secondary attention by behavior or by responses to questions. Some people don't have the right choice of words in their response, or they don't have the right body language which requires follow-up to clear or adjudicate. The secondary attention does not have to be associated with the original reason the police were interested with that location.

 

[Justice101]

following

 

[SteveP]

I was thinking about all the missing this morning and I thought to myself if we can send men to the moon why can't we find a person lying in a field or in a corn row. Surely there has to be some really smart person or group that could do this. How many bodies of those never found languish in fields and streams. Thinking too of Caylee Anthony only blocks away from her home. How come we can't find them???

Think about it for a moment. Who has never misplaced their car keys, or tv remote, and you turn a room or house (or purse, in the case of keys) upside down looking for it. Now imagine a person, probably at least slightly hidden from plain sight, in an area maybe 5 square miles from the scene of a crime. I actually think it is amazing when they DO find someone. JMO

 

[cp0510]

I’m not sure if this has been posted or mentioned (and I definitely don’t know the backstory...ALSO, I don’t agree with this theory as applied to MT), but it gave me pause:

Ivan Crisostomo & Crystal Allen: 5 Fast Facts | Heavy.com

 

[Deleted member 227095]

And your response is exactly like all of us with daughters.

Stay safe SharonNeedles + 2 teenage daughters! If anything has been exposed in this case to me its the fact that the people of Brooklyn and surrounding area need greater and improved law enforcement coverage. It just doesn't seem practical anymore to think that we are 4-5 miles from I-80 and so who is going to come here from the interstate?

I spent some time today reading local blogs and people talk about long waits for police to respond to calls in Brooklyn. With technology options in security available today I hope the local people of Brooklyn can figure out a way to preserve their way of life WHILE at the same time being safe (note to co-op get a repairperson for your security system on speed dial).

I think they deserve better than no local police force and reliance on a county sheriff system that is stretched way too thin given the sizable territory they have to cover. I am NOT knocking the local LE, not one bit, especially as its worked for many years. Local LE just have too few resources and too much territory to cover and the towns don't seem to use resources equally based on what I read today (Grinnell seems to suck up almost most of the resources which leave local LE scrambling to cover the territory based on what I was reading today). These are complicated issues but waiting 1 hr+ for response to calls isn't keeping anyone safe. I'm curious what would have happened if MT had tried to call local LE? Would anyone from local LE been around to respond in a timeframe that might have made a difference? I'm not so sure.

 

[Jabarn]

I am wondering if the FBI has decided she was likely abducted & if so, then do they have enough evidence for them to construct a behavioral profile of a person likely to do this. (purely conjecture on my part) they have a specific type of person in mind, I.e. looking at people of a certain age range, race, sex, likely in a certain type of occupation or w/ experience in an area, criminal history (I.e. stalking, or convictions on other sex-related crimes, etc), likelihood that person was unknown to her. If they’ve determined she was most likely abducted & have the time the event occurred & location, they probably have inferred a few things from this that they aren’t sharing w/ the public

There is a general profile of lone abductors... I can’t quote it for sure, but I believe less than average intelligence, a history of abuse, and behaviors such as hurting animals or starting fires (not all exclusive). Not sure if there is any one like that in her circle, but it it certainly couldn’t hurt to look at profiling aspects like that. You would think with the FBI involved, they would be looking at aspects like that with personalities in her immediate or outside circle of acquaintances.

All that to say, I think she was likely taken by someone she didn’t know at all. It makes the most sense. Just hate it the investigation might be scaled back, because if it’s not someone in her circle, or an outsider, someone else may be next on the perp’s list.

 

[gliving]

I must’ve missed a memo! Can you help on brother needing the car that night?

Ha! You caught me. There is no memo. My thoughts were - why did brother drop her off instead of her dropping him off. Then text her at 0730 to see if she needed a ride? That's all. I apologize for my lapse.