IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #43

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MsBetsy said:
I guess maybe in wrong to assume they do that everywhere? Unless the district is somehow independtly wealthy, I cant imagine how else they would pay for these things. Isn't there a school budget everywhere? In one town near where I am, the taxpayers are fighting the budget because the school is asking for a million extra! Or a million something . More than what the usual budget is.
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In our county the sheriff’s office sued the county for a few extra millions and won. He was the same sheriff that brought the show Southern Justice to our county and he felt they deserved more of the revenue that the show generated. I agreed but at reelection time his opponent ran on the platform that the sheriff sued the taxpayers. The opponent won.
 
TL4S said:
What's been nagging at me is the location of that cornfield. It seems so random and unnecessarily far away when there are plenty of isolated locations, fields, ponds, and rivers very near site of abduction and along any route south.

Again, I am NOT arguing that CR is a SK. I was, however, curious to see what I could find about SKs and the distances they would go to make contact with their victims vs where they'd leave the body, and here is one older research paper I found. It's interesting.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...ath_The_spatial_behavior_of_US_serial_killers

What's striking is Table 1. Basically, the mean average distance for the 4th victim is : ~3.4 miles from SK's home to point of fatal encounter (PFE), and ~14.5 miles from SK's home to body dump (BD). In MT's case, CR's house is roughly 4 miles from site of abduction, and roughly 14 miles to body recovery site.

If I've learned anything from my short time at WS, it's not to look too deep into coincidences, which is all this probably is. But interesting all the same.
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It may have just been the first place he could think of and he didn't preplan at all.
 
TL4S said:
What's been nagging at me is the location of that cornfield. It seems so random and unnecessarily far away when there are plenty of isolated locations, fields, ponds, and rivers very near site of abduction and along any route south.

Again, I am NOT arguing that CR is a SK. I was, however, curious to see what I could find about SKs and the distances they would go to make contact with their victims vs where they'd leave the body, and here is one older research paper I found. It's interesting.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...ath_The_spatial_behavior_of_US_serial_killers

What's striking is Table 1. Basically, the mean average distance for the 4th victim is : ~3.4 miles from SK's home to point of fatal encounter (PFE), and ~14.5 miles from SK's home to body dump (BD). In MT's case, CR's house is roughly 4 miles from site of abduction, and roughly 14 miles to body recovery site.

If I've learned anything from my short time at WS, it's not to look too deep into coincidences, which is all this probably is. But interesting all the same.
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If were expecting CR to make logical decisions on that evening / night; we are going to be disappointed; he must be panic stricken; panicking about what he's just done and what he should do.
 
rebel123 said:
If were expecting CR to make logical decisions on that evening / night; we are going to be disappointed; he must be panic stricken; panicking about what he's just done and what he should do.
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Especially if it was his first time.
 
MsBetsy said:
Especially if it was his first time.
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As far as I see it, we have two directions to go with this. Either CR is a first-time killer, or not. I don't know which one it is, so I'm exploring outside the realm of this particular case to see if anything correlates with CR's known crime and behavior. As always, it's JMO - and not really so much opinion as curiosity. I wish I had even a fraction of the information LE must have...
 
MsBetsy said:
I guess maybe in wrong to assume they do that everywhere? Unless the district is somehow independtly wealthy, I cant imagine how else they would pay for these things. Isn't there a school budget everywhere? In one town near where I am, the taxpayers are fighting the budget because the school is asking for a million extra! Or a million something . More than what the usual budget is.
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I used to live in a town that 15 years ago had less than 1% Hispanic population. Since that time due to a local industry the population is now 65% Hispanic with about 50% of those here illegally. Population overall has almost doubled Average size of class went from 35-40 students to now more than 100 students per grade. This years kindergarten enrollment was 170 students so you can imagine the increased expense. The majority of the students have very limited English. Due to the immigrants culture many of these families live 4-5 families in one household, however there is only one house to receive property taxes on to fund the school as well as everything else that property taxes support Little to no new building construction has happened so the number of people paying property taxes have not increased just the amount. Another school was constructed 2 years ago to accommodate the increased number of students. The impact of illegal immigration has devastated this town.
 
Crystal Regan said:
Yes, exactly. I feel very sad for what that family went through. She should have spoken for WC or been the family spokeswoman all along. The country girl in me wanted to sit on that porch and chat with her.
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She was very sincere and eloquent, I would love to hear more from her too!
 
TL4S said:
As far as I see it, we have two directions to go with this. Either CR is a first-time killer, or not. I don't know which one it is, so I'm exploring outside the realm of this particular case to see if anything correlates with CR's known crime and behavior. As always, it's JMO - and not really so much opinion as curiosity. I wish I had even a fraction of the information LE must have...
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I know, I'm interested in that too. All we have are bits and pieces to work with. I keep hoping some new information will come up somewhere. Just to give us an idea. I'm surprised it took this long for the media to find out what name he was going by. It seems like the town isn't talking much.
 
JenniD said:
I used to live in a town that 15 years ago had less than 1% Hispanic population. Since that time due to a local industry the population is now 65% Hispanic with about 50% of those here illegally. Population overall has almost doubled Average size of class went from 35-40 students to now more than 100 students per grade. This years kindergarten enrollment was 170 students so you can imagine the increased expense. The majority of the students have very limited English. Due to the immigrants culture many of these families live 4-5 families in one household, however there is only one house to receive property taxes on to fund the school as well as everything else that property taxes support Little to no new building construction has happened so the number of people paying property taxes have not increased just the amount. Another school was constructed 2 years ago to accommodate the increased number of students. The impact of illegal immigration has devastated this town.
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Sounds just like where I moved from. But I have a feeling we should stay away from this topic. We were getting a little out of control earlier!
 
TL4S said:
As far as I see it, we have two directions to go with this. Either CR is a first-time killer, or not. I don't know which one it is, so I'm exploring outside the realm of this particular case to see if anything correlates with CR's known crime and behavior. As always, it's JMO - and not really so much opinion as curiosity. I wish I had even a fraction of the information LE must have...
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What I’m finding scary in my area is perps seem to be evolving, going from 0-100 if you will, we’ve had common household break-ins that have turned to rape and the perp has no history of it

That’s unheard of in my town, now it’s a reality

What is causing this?

Drugs?

Social media fame?
 
Rocco said:
I doubt he got advice on what to say to LE if caught. Who would advise him to admit he took her and lead them to her body?
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Who are the people close to him? His father said 'if he had done it he would of returned to Mexico'. That for me is a strange think to say. LE will be looking at communications with family members very closely; call times, frequency compared to previous periods etc. His calmness when arrested; like he knew exactly what he was going to say.
 
JenniD said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...d60274-aa16-11e8-8a0c-70b618c98d3c_story.html
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Ah, yes. A very loyal town. This is partly why I'm not sure I believe all the stories in the DM about the girls having confrontations with Rivera, or the one about the fiance. It just doesn't fit in with what was said by people in the town. Unless they were from somewhere else. Either way, I'm not sure how reliable it is. There were a couple articles and then nothing. So how do we even know if he behaves in this way? Most other articles described him as quiet and not likely to " come on" to alot of different women. Or even be pushy. It really does make it hard to figure out a pattern of behavior.
 
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