ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 43

[Ksfarmer8]

Maybe they put a tracker on his car?

The "tracking" could have been as simple as following credit card transactions.

 

[OckhamsRazor22]

Respectfully, this "child" is 28 years old. Why does he need to go home to mommy & daddy to cope? He encounters all kinds of criminal brutality thru his studies & research.

Playtime is over. Prison is an adult world. I wonder if his academic experiences ever included time inside one? Of course, he would have been free to walk out then.

JMHO

I read the adjective “sheltered” being used to describe him amongst former classmates. Sheltered. Moving forward I’ll be using more caution when referencing the term. JMOO.

 

[WildWest]

The other poster I was responding to stated that the repair issues was the reason why the Dad flew out to Pullman and accompanied his son on the drive back to Pa.

It could be like a previous poster suggested, just serviced like tire inspection and oil change for long trip, it'd be easier, faster and safer to drive home 37 hours with two drivers trading off than one doing an overnight in or two in hotels. I might guess the Dad did that with him on the way out last fall too?

 

[schooling]

IMO, notice the news reporter say that Kohberger is responsible for the deaths- not that he was the killer. Big Difference.

Not every word from every person needs to be decoded.

You’re misinterpreting intention and it’s led down the path of looking for nuisance where there’s none.

 

[Fleur-de-lis]

In the future, I guess this will be revealed, but no one in Pullman thought to report that Elantra? No one in PA thought it strange about the murders, his attendance nearby, and his car??? I am not faulting others, just amazed. I kept my eyes peeled for the car and I'm 1800 miles from Idaho.

 

[Murphy1950]

Interesting that Dad flew to Pullman to drive home with Bryan...

Also, I personally have no doubt that Bryan's parents were well aware of the Idaho murders and the search for a white Elantra, as just about the whole country was aware. This is a very high profile gruesome murder....I would be interested to know if the parents let the authorities know, or encouraged Bryan to let the authorities know, in order to assist in the investigation and be cleared. If they did not, and Bryan did not, IMO, is a big red flag.

RSBM (and bolded)
East Coast here...
All due respect, I have major doubts. I had no less than 8 nieces and nephews from different colleges across the county visiting here at Christmas with other family members. Two in college as far away as Arizona and Colorado. Also many others younger relatives, not students, from different parts of the country. When I asked them what they thought, thinking they would be fearful, only one or two were vaguely familiar with this case. Actually I was a little surprised. They were much more open to discuss UVA's recent tragic history.

The whole country is hardly aware of the death's much less the car description , or other case details IMO. Those who follow crime Yes, Those in Moscow ID Yes.

I would be surprised if this was ever "network" news in the East, locally to Idaho/Washington State, OK. We are in the DC area, which is news 24/7. I've never heard a word...

 

[drmrgrl]

IMO JMO any of these things could have happened. IDK, none of us do, and the prosecution will say 'tomato' and the defense will say 'to-mah-to', and there we are.

In this case, re the roadtrip, we just don't know, and that was my point - it's important to counter each event with possible explanations IMO JMO, esp with BARD in play.

If I think about, commit to, stick to only one side of the equation, only one argument that validates what I believe or know to be true, then I can miss the big old hole on the other side of the equation. IMO JMO. Classic example of this, thank you Chris Darden, is the OJ glove. Prosecution was so sure it would fit, they didn't think one step ahead, and we all know how that ended.

So when making my point, I always go to the other side and make the argument against my point because IMO JMO then I can head it off effectively. That's IMO JMO and what I did with the cross-country roadtrip (although it is a true story).

IMO, you would think that if BK is innocent that he would be singing like a canary…maybe he gotten that far yet. If I was arrested for something I didn’t do, I would be crying, screaming my lungs out, talking nonstop, burning some scorched earth… BK is eerily calm. IDK

 

[Boodles]

What service was he buying from the auto service shop?
Valet?
Hopefully not but doubt he neglected to clean it,
Hopefully he missed large chunks.
Do you happen to have link to that by any chance, please?
Not being pedantic but I missed it entirely.

There probably is a link somewhere, but I saw the auto shop thing on CNN TV. If they said what service he was having, I missed it.

 

[clearskies1]

The "tracking" could have been as simple as following credit card transactions.

I really doubt that. Could easily use cash to evade LE.

 

[Followfacts]

Possible. As of right now, we don't know one way or the other. Now that his name is out, it seems like the odds are good there's going to be a transaction found tying him to the type of knife used in the murders or there's going to be an acquaintance who saw him with the kind of knife LE is looking for.

Pictures may be found of him holding the knife. Financial receipts as you’ve stated that he bought the knife at military surplus store, Amazon?

 

[DeDee]

<RSBM> I see something smug and arrogant in him now, and wonder if it was there all along.

Some other person who knew him later, more recently, said he answered questions explaining things extra complicated to appear to know so much. Maybe he was bullied and went overboard to prove his superiority and intelligence, maybe it wasn't at school, but at home. Yes, lots of things were going on with him over the years, particularly important is what was going on that changed him so drastically between junior and senior HS years. I am curious too.​

His female friend whom he used to take him riding thru the Poconos said he was on the hunt for heroin. He apparently became a heroin addict who came clean by the time she saw him in 2017. Wonder what year would be between his junior and senior yr of HS?

What I know about addicts is that, typically, the addiction is always present but the user must develop and possess the urge to suppress the desire for using drugs in order to stay clean and sober. A former meth user recently told me that every fiber of her body screams for meth every minute of the day. Addictions are an awful albatross.

 

[alsleuther]

Suspect in the Idaho college student killings returned home for the holidays weeks after the crime. Here's what we know about him

The man arrested in connection with the November killings of four University of Idaho students who were found stabbed to death attended a nearby university in Washington state and traveled across the country in December to spend the holidays with his parents.

amp.cnn.com

From cnn. Bryan and dad were getting the Elantra serviced on the 16th, back in Pennsylvania and they told a person there that the plan was for Bryan to drive back to Washington solo after the holidays, so that would be contrary to the theory the plan was to sell the car in PA. Unless he planned to drive back solo in another car I suppose.

Perhaps selling that car and buying another one wasnt financially feasible for this family. Public records show the parents have filed for bankruptcy twice and used cars are very expensive these days.

 

[gizmobtj]

MOO- I've no doubt LE obtained his DNA before the December 14-17th car ride to PA. In 1988 the US Supreme Court ruled that police have the right to legally search garbage, without a warrant. I think they held off on arresting BK hoping to locate the knife, hoping he'd lead them to it (either to dispose of it, or to "visit" it)... MOO. Remember when WA investigators visited the King Road property around December 9th- IMO that was because there was discussion of arresting BK in WA around that time and the visit was part of a probable cause warrant/extradition discussion...MOO-decision was made to not arrest him then, due to the knife issue, and continue with surveillance. IMO the police did the exhaustive Elantra search not just to lull BK into a false sense of security, but to foreclose his defense that some "other" white Elantra was the vehicle, not his...LE can now show they did an exhaustive search for other possible suspects and were able to rule them out...that this was no "rush to judgment" on the part of LE that caused BK's arrest. MOO.

I would think if that was purpose of the WA investigators being there they would done it at the police station and prosecutors on both sides, and maybe thr AGs offices, would have been having that convo...

As for the Elanta search, that's interesting. Totally possible that they knew and announced the search to collect more evidence and hide that they knew ... interesting

 

[Vegasgrl]

If they had enough (not all) evidence that he was the killer, it would be irresponsible not to surveil/track him personally or with a tracking device. I don't know what they had, but we'll find out more when he arrives in Idaho.

 

[drmrgrl]

IMO JMO any of these things could have happened. IDK, none of us do, and the prosecution will say 'tomato' and the defense will say 'to-mah-to', and there we are.

In this case, re the roadtrip, we just don't know, and that was my point - it's important to counter each event with possible explanations IMO JMO, esp with BARD in play.

If I think about, commit to, stick to only one side of the equation, only one argument that validates what I believe or know to be true, then I can miss the big old hole on the other side of the equation. IMO JMO. Classic example of this, thank you Chris Darden, is the OJ glove. Prosecution was so sure it would fit, they didn't think one step ahead, and we all know how that ended.

So when making my point, I always go to the other side and make the argument against my point because IMO JMO then I can head it off effectively. That's IMO JMO and what I did with the cross-country roadtrip (although it is a true story).

IMO, you would think that if BK is innocent that he would be singing like a canary…maybe he hasn’t gotten that far yet. If I was arrested for something I didn’t do, I would be crying, screaming my lungs out, talking nonstop, burning some scorched earth… BK is eerily calm. IDK

Health issues?

iMO, I think he had someone else clean the car and I would go so far to say that he told the killer to do so with some healthy expletives

 

[schooling]

I really doubt that. Could easily use cash to evade LE.

Agreed. If they thought enough of him as a suspect to actively track him across the country. They might have went as far as a tracking device or even following him on his drive with handoffs to agencies state to state.

No one is letting a quadruple homicide suspect drive across the country without every minute or stop completely accounted for. While they were likely waiting for familial dna. Could you imagine the fallout if he struck again?

 

[rescuemom]

Regarding the dad. When my daughter lived in Arizona, I wouldn't have thought twice about flying from Indiana to Arizona to road trip back with her. We also chatter nonstop when we're together. JMO

We don't know but I'm sure we are abt to find out what the relationship between BK and his family was like.

 

[ohioexpat63]

Not yet but in 2025

REAL ID | Homeland Security

www.dhs.gov

Thanks for the clarification. They've been kicking this can for years. I always use a passport and have lived abroad for 9 years. I guess the bottom line is ID wouldn't have prevented him from flying, going or returning.

 

[HopeValleyDevil]

"LaBar said he has recommended his client be psychologically tested before court proceedings"

Authorities tracked the Idaho student killings suspect cross-country to Pennsylvania, sources say | CNN

Authorities tracked the man charged in the killings of four Idaho college students all the way to Pennsylvania and surveilled him for several days before finally arresting him on Friday, sources told CNN.

edition.cnn.com

 

[Boodles]

What service was he buying from the auto service shop?
Valet?
Hopefully not but doubt he neglected to clean it,
Hopefully he missed large chunks.
Do you happen to have link to that by any chance, please?
Not being pedantic but I missed it entirely.

There probably is a link somewhere, but I saw the auto shop thing on CNN TV. If they said what service he was having, I missed it.

Here’s the written version: Suspect in the Idaho college student killings returned home for the holidays weeks after the crime. Here's what we know about him | CNN