ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 47

[mzmarymac]

But they dont bring in EVERY person or EVERY DNA they find. Old school detective work and common sense plays here.
I dunno, it still baffles me. DNA is the most specific way to narrow down. A match is virtually impossible to be anyone else.

I mean if you didnt do the crime, DNA will 99.99% of the time wont say you did.

I am a skeptic myself and there are people far more skeptical than even me. No one should have access to your private information without your consent. That said, there is a lot of faith in the system in your words. I respectfully tend to disagree, because at this stage, I don't trust anyone anywhere. It's the best system we have but can be a slippery slope. There are still many people who feel that OJ's blood/DNA was planted at the scene. I'm just saying, you never know, which is why I am not going to do the ancestry thing myself.

That said, in this case, it sounds like it was a family member, who willingly gave up their DNA, so it's all fair game now.

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[PriorTheCreator]

I could see that but I have a suspicion that he had come across them before. Even if it wasn’t deeply personal this wasn’t his first time interacting with the girls, or at least one of them.

What makes you think that? Is there an interview or anything from people saying something?
IMO I think he just saw pretty women that he might have felt he is entitled to and never gets, and stewed with anger. He wanted to hurt those he felt he was entitled to and never gave him attention.
But that likely would mean he had some kind of history of outbursts or issues.

All IMO

 

[Curiosa20]

20 days? He was arrested on Dec 30. So he was free all of December. 30 days. And the murders were on 13 Nov. Another 17 days, by my reckoning.

37 days total, not 20. Which is why I think there's plenty of time for minor cuts and scratches to heal. I'm still on the edge of my seat to learn just how they got a profile complete enough to do GEDMatch. BK made many critical errors. Many. If he did wash his hands at the scene, he's almost like an idiot savant.

Definition of IDIOT SAVANT

savant; a person who is highly knowledgeable about one subject but knows little about anything else… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

(It's an actual term in English, borrowed from the French, first used 1870 - just so you all know I"m not trying to be rude here).

Controversy regarding the term aside, I totally agree.
I have been bothered by his Master’s advisor proclaiming him to be brilliant.
As noted earlier, he could not even complete his thesis as proposed. I believe he has a walking compendium of facts stored in his disintegrating mind but is incapable of integrating them for real life application. It’s obvious to me that he does not get others nor does he connect dots well, much less complexity.
Wondering if the feedback he got from his survey fueled the fire and desire to FEEL a passion he had never before experienced, be the god he believes himself to be.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

It’s amazing the amount of truth reflected in those 6 simple words of a tried and true aphorism. The apple also is said not to fall TOO far from the tree. So many are apropos to this event, person, and dogged mind-hunt. JMOO

Maybe there will be some Freudian slips from BK if he keeps talking.

 

[kittythehare]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610363035595456513

No live tweeting permitted. Strict.

 

[gliving]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610364587769237504

 

[Puzzles8]

Fascinating. I’m speculating, repeat, totally speculating, that the court order to halt the cleanup of the murder house was due to a defense request. Which would mean that BK had someone lined up immediately to handle his case. Which would mean he anticipated that he may be arrested.

But, that would mean he’d have had to have his dad or someone obtain an Idaho attorney immediately upon being arrested or prior.

Is that even possible?

Bryan Kohberger had a "state appointed attorney" in Pennsylvania.

"The commonwealth of Pennsylvania must prove that Kohberger resembles or is the person on the arrest warrant, and that he was in the area where the crimes happened when they occurred, “a formality proceeding,” Monroe County Chief Public Defender Jason LaBar, Kohberger’s state-appointed attorney, told CNN."
Bolding and underline by me

Bryan Kohberger Waives Extradition: Details About Idaho Murder Suspect’s Arrest Can Be Unsealed After Transfer

Kohberger is expected to be extradited from Pennsylvania to Idaho on Tuesday.

www.forbes.com

Given his family's past financial history, I suspect he will also be assigned a court appointed attorney in Idaho.

Idaho Murders: ‘Detached’ Suspect Bryan Kohberger Studied Under Famed Criminologist

Bryan Kohberger, 28, was arrested in Pennsylvania on Friday on a warrant for the first-degree murders of four Idaho students.

www.thedailybeast.com

JMO

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Bryan Kohberger's lawyer sends defense investigators to crime scene: source

Members of Bryan Kohberger's defense team toured the Idaho home where four college students were slaughtered on Nov. 13, Fox News Digital has learned.

www.foxnews.com

Wow, BK already has a "Defense Team" & they are already accessing the crime scene, less than a week since his arrest. This seems to be moving at warp speed, IMO

 

[10ofRods]

There is speculation that the two men could have communicated. Or, rather, BK attempted to communicate with BTK. That's what the article I read stated. I'm about to leave now, but can try to dig it up. JMO.

Rader's daughter mentioned that Rader's cell would be searched for any letters from BK, as his mail is searched and monitored and there's no initial way to contact him except for mail.

At any rate, KR (the daughter) knows a lot about murderers, from personal experience. Her book is fascinating.

She said yesterday it was entirely speculation that BK had contacted DR, but that she was sure the prison would look into it.

Her interview is on the media thread. Here's a mention, approved source:

 

[mzmarymac]

Do you fear they will charge you with something? What is the reluctance here if you know you never did a crime.
Philosophically asking

Two Words: Richard Jewell

 

[IceCreamSundae]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610364587769237504

Sad. I feel for them.

 

[10ofRods]

I wish the story had ID'd his Idaho lawyer. Or did I miss it?

The story specifically has a line in it saying the lawyer is not yet identified.

 

[kittythehare]

On Dec 7th, Chief James Fry personally drove the moving van to pick up personal items for the families. Is it just a coincidence that the van had an ad for Pennsylvania?View attachment 392066

Hazarding a guess.
YES

 

[10ofRods]

Two Words: Richard Jewell

How did DNA play a role there? I've forgotten the details and would love to know.

 

[OckhamsRazor22]

Kohberger was nabbed after authorities matched DNA from the crime scene to a sample submitted by one of his immediate family members to a genealogy testing website, a law enforcement source told Fox News.

Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger spotted for first time since arrest

Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger seen for the first time in Pennsylvania since his arrest Friday for the grisly deaths of four University of Idaho students.

www.foxnews.com

Just like the GSK. Gotta love Familial DNA.

 

[Allabouttrial]

So he's going for an insanity defense? Delusional? MOO.

Where in the article does it say this?.

 

[Sandy007]

And he may not have cut himself at all. I think the only one who had the strength to fight would have been Ethan. Surely he wore gloves and a mask. He planned this out. He just isn’t as smart as he thinks. I hurt so much for those four kids!

Fascinating. I’m speculating, repeat, totally speculating, that the court order to halt the cleanup of the murder house was due to a defense request. Which would mean that BK had someone lined up immediately to handle his case. Which would mean he anticipated that he may be arrested.

But, that would mean he’d have had to have his dad or someone obtain an Idaho attorney immediately upon being arrested or prior.

Is that even possible?

Of course, it is.

He was arrested at 2 am in PA on 30 Dec.

The cleaning crew was at the property 6 or 7 hours later. The news of halting the cleaning were broadcasted at around 2 pm, whole 12 hours after the arrest.

So, there was plenty of time to apply for emergency order from court to stop the cleaning in order to preserve the crime scene.

The emergency order could have been requested via LE office in Moscow, ID from BK legal team in PA. It is in LE interest suspect to have a fair deal.

 

[kittythehare]

Sad. I feel for them.

same as that.

 

[cuecard]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610364587769237504

His family's lives will never be the same again now either. A truly sad sight.

 

[TooMuchGun]

Of course, it is.

He was arrested at 2 am in PA on 30 Dec.

The cleaning crew was at the property 6 or 7 hours later. The news of halting the cleaning were broadcasted at around 2 pm, whole 12 hours after the arrest.

So, there was plenty of time to apply for emergency order from court to stop the cleaning in order to preserve the crime scene.

The emergency order could have been requested via LE office in Moscow, ID from BK legal team in PA. It is in LE interest suspect to have a fair deal.

Is it possible they halted after BK asked if anyone else was arrested? Ive always thought there is an accomplice and with his statement after being arrested Im all in on that theory. MOO