ACG2x
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Mad at EC? For what?Rage filled loner got mad at Ethan, followed them home from party, on foot, raged on everyone he KNEW was in the house.
Mad at EC? For what?Rage filled loner got mad at Ethan, followed them home from party, on foot, raged on everyone he KNEW was in the house.
Very fair point, however not through a pillow or with a silencer it's not. But even if killer thought this, then why bring a gun to begin with which was kind of what I was getting at. Until we know for certain, I can't rule out the killer brought a gun, but I don't see the point of bringing one if you are going to murder people violently and don't use it.Shooting is so loud though
I am not the poster who came up with that theory, but if killer is the loner, he could be upset by the happy couple, EC and his girlfriend, because the killer himself can't get a girlfriend.Mad at EC? For what?
I recall reading a brief interview with the food truck visitor who had been speaking with hoodie guy (who has been cleared by LE)- it was something like:My comment is in regards to the male at the food truck who has been called ‘creepy’ and ‘watching them.’ When i watched the longer video, not the 1 minute cnn version, he did not look creepy at all. Yes, he did appear to be watching them and waiting for them, but in my opinion, it did not look secretive or creepy. Rather, it looked purposeful and like he was supposed to be watching them and waiting for them. My theory watching it is that somewhere before arriving at food truck, he had been talked into or assigned to walking or driving them home. The girls are clearly very intoxicated, and he is not. Maybe he was a fraternity Designated or assigned to that duty, maybe he is a friend’s little brother, maybe the girls thought he was nice and asked him to drive them.
Then, it starts to turn into more than he bargained for, when they want to stop for food, which ends up taking a long time in the cold, and the girls seemingly forget he is there. He looks bored and ready to go, but he not not appear to be hiding in the shadows. it is awkward for him at first because here are these beautiful girls who he is supposed to help, but they are not friends, they are not dating, and they have forgotten he is there, but they still need his help. So he waits. Eventually he comes over and openly talks to others. It looks likely that he said to the other guy ‘yeah, they asked me to bring them here…’ Then the girls, in their drunk state, decide to do a very BFF girl thing, which is to just run off together and ditch everyone. Hence, he gestures with his hand and says something like “they asked me to bring them here, now they run off and leave me. oh well.“ Basically, he shrugs, ”well, I tried. Guess I can go home now” and walks off.
Maybe because I am the mother of three young men, I feel the need to point this out- taken from that perspective, he looks like he may have just been a truly nice guy who happened to have had an interaction with them before they left and were tragically murdered by someone else.
Here is an article with pictures of the outside with fenced back yard. The angle is such that you can see the cyclone fence that comes down to neighbors, there is also a cross fence separating the two yards.
Scroll down to article and images taken from the front of the house and you can see the fence line.
I am low-key annoyed at everyone thinking that E must have walked into the prep and X was collateral damage, while it has been told by X-s dad that she had defensive wounds and such a thing has never been said about E afaik. It is just as likely that X walked into the prep, or even, sadly, that they were attacked in the bed with the prep going after E first and waking X.The sound awakened Ethan.Then on his way out he ran into Ethan; so he killed them both too. Then ran.
I wonder if one of the Frat members had become a problem and a committee decided to tell him he needed to leave the fraternity. Perhaps Ethan was the main spokesperson, the one that told this frat member it had been decided he could no longer belong to the fraternity. The expelled Frat member could have become enraged and held Ethan personally responsible for his expulsion, and in his rage decided to extract revenge. He followed Ethan that night and knew he was at the house. He had been to the house for parties, knew the layout. Waited until the house was quiet and entered with the intent to kill Ethan and a horrible series of events led to all four being killed.I also think it’s possible that something happened at the frat party that made E and X the intended targets - maybe an argument with another frat member who felt slighted/embarrassed and wanted to exact revenge on E and/or X?
IMO, I’ve always thought that K called J because she felt uneasy but brushed it off and didn’t think it warranted a call to LE.
And now I see someone pointed out that the FAQ section says evening. Huh. I am guessing that the most recent press release has the most recent information, but I did send a FB message to the city letting them know of the discrepancy. I know they’re under no obligation to act on public suggestions - I just know they’re working so hard to be factual and thought they may like to know. We’ll see if either one gets updated!I don’t think anyone let the dog out. The City of Moscow has updated their press release as of 11/22 at 5:30pm to state:
“On the morning of the incident, officers located a dog at the residence. The dog was unharmed and turned over to Animal Services and then released to a responsible party.”
I think they just misspoke when they said evening initially.
I am low-key annoyed at everyone thinking that E must have walked into the prep and X was collateral damage, while it has been told by X-s dad that she had defensive wounds and such a thing has never been said about E afaik. It is just as likely that X walked into the prep, or even, sadly, that they were attacked in the bed with the prep going after E first and waking X.
So what's the reasoning (other than gender stereotypes)?
If I were X and Heard- commotion in the middle of the night, I wake up my boyfriend to go check. Not saying a woman couldn’t have of courseI am low-key annoyed at everyone thinking that E must have walked into the prep and X was collateral damage, while it has been told by X-s dad that she had defensive wounds and such a thing has never been said about E afaik. It is just as likely that X walked into the prep, or even, sadly, that they were attacked in the bed with the prep going after E first and waking X.
So what's the reasoning (other than gender stereotypes)?
MOO and MOO I believe the killer(s) had been watching the house for at least a few days and believed that the bottom floor was empty and the residents were not there. They had only both returned to the house earlier that same evening after being out of town on separate trips, according to reports.I just can’t figure out why the 2 girls were spared, He must have watched the house, if in fact our speculation is correct, He Would know how many people lived there, Maybe The surging girls had the door to bedroom locked I guess L.E will have an answer For this, but I think we got it right, It’s the only logical explanation for such a brutal crime that from what I am understanding such a brutal crime that even some of L.E May have needed counseling There’s no way this was a psychopath that picked a rad on house and just decided to butcher a bunch of people
Did K bring the dog with her for this visit? Or did she leave the dog to be cared for by her (former?) roomies when she left to stay at her parents' house? Had she really moved out before finals & graduation? Why? I am very curious about that & if my questions have been answered, I have missed it. She had a job, too. If she was back living at home had she quit her job?That’s a great suggestion about the dog. But I can’t believe they’d go to sleep with dog missing.
But if you were thinking that these are just your damn drunk friends again and not immediately think that it is a loose murderer (and maybe you live there and your bf is semi-visiting)... then would you? Because to me that would seem super rude to send him to tell them off. I would just go myself like girls pleeease stop the dancing.If I were X and Heard- commotion in the middle of the night, I wake up my boyfriend to go check. Not saying a woman couldn’t have of course