ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 8

[Mommy123!]

We know they made many calls to ex boyfriend when they got back. Don’t see them doing that if they were with a “hook up” in the room.

We know they made many calls to ex boyfriend when they got back. Don’t see them doing that if they were with a “hook up” in the room.

A call could be a trigger and set the perp off. Or, one of the girls make a call to her ex boyfriend from 2 phones around 2:45 in a panic because the perp is getting crazy. All things to consider when nothing has been concluded.

 

[mickey2942]

I think the equation is "how many random hookups result in the deaths of 4 people".

There is nothing wrong with a "random hookup". We don't even know if the victims had arranged "hookups". And even if they did, no one expects to meet a psycho killer.

 

[Puzzles8]

This is everything we need to know about the 911 call.

"The 911 call came from the phone of one of the two surviving roommates who were home at the time of the killings, according to a statement from the Moscow Police Department.

Police said the surviving roommates called friends over to the house on Nov. 13 because they believed one of their roommates had passed out. Multiple people spoke with the dispatcher during the 911 call made at 11:58 a.m. to report an unconscious person, according to police."

MSN

This is what confuses me. The victims were all violently stabbed in their upper body. It is described as a very bloody crime scene.

So the 911 call seems a bit odd to me. If I saw a person that I would first describe to police, 'looked unconscious' IMO that doesn't fit with a bloody crime scene.

JMO
Forgive me if I have any details wrong, I am trying really hard to catch up!

 

[CSIDreamer]

There is nothing wrong with a "random hookup". We don't even know if the victims had arranged "hookups". And even if they did, no one expects to meet a psycho killer.

??? I never said they did. That was a reply to someone else.

 

[debirlfan]

I admit I skipped the early posts and may have missed it, but I have a couple questions.

We know how the girls got home from the food truck, but how did E and X get there? Did one of them drive? Did someone drive them? How do we know that they didn't have a friend or acquaintance with them? Possibly someone they invited to 'sleep it off' on the couch?

Was E spending the night there unusual? I know they said he wasn't living there, but that could mean anything from 'not on the lease, but here all the time' to 'first time he ever slept over' which could make a big difference as to the perp expected to encounter him.

 

[Emerald1328]

Ashleigh Banfield had the coroner Cathy Mabbutt on her show on Thursday where the coroner seemed to confirm the substance dripping down the exterior side of the house is blood.

Ashleigh: “Ms. Mabbutt, we showed a picture a moment ago of a wall on the outside of the house. It looked like the foundation on the outside of the house. I’m gonna ask the control room to put that picture up again. This was fairly shocking to see. It’s blood dripping on the outside of the house, almost as though it may be seeping from the inside. Does that sound congruent with the results of the crime scene that you were able to ascertain from your work?”

Mabbutt: “Um, from my observations, yes.”

Ashleigh: “And can you tell me if that means this might have been one of the bedrooms or where the beds were that one of the victims was stabbed, this particular area of the house?”

Mabbutt: “I think that’s pretty likely, yes.”

Ashleigh then asked her if there was anything else she could say about that scene and she said no.

I can only find the podcast link.

Banfield: Coroner: Idaho students stabbed to death, were likely asleep on Apple Podcasts

Show Banfield, Ep Coroner: Idaho students stabbed to death, were likely asleep - Nov 17, 2022

podcasts.apple.com

Eta: starts around 30 minutes in.

 

[CSIDreamer]

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Ashleigh Banfield had the coroner Cathy Mabbutt on her show on Thursday where the coroner seemed to confirm the substance dripping down the exterior side of the house is blood.

Ashleigh: “Ms. Mabbutt, we showed a picture a moment ago of a wall on the outside of the house. It looked like the foundation on the outside of the house. I’m gonna ask the control room to put that picture up again. This was fairly shocking to see. It’s blood dripping on the outside of the house, almost as though it may be seeping from the inside. Does that sound congruent with the results of the crime scene that you were able to ascertain from your work?”

Mabbutt: “Um, from my observations, yes.”

Ashleigh: “And can you tell me if that means this might have been one of the bedrooms or where the beds were that one of the victim’s was stabbed, this particular area of the house?”

Mabbutt: “I think that’s pretty likely, yes.”

Ashleigh then asked her if there was anything else she could say about that scene and she said no.

I can only find the podcast link.

Banfield: Coroner: Idaho students stabbed to death, were likely asleep on Apple Podcasts

Show Banfield, Ep Coroner: Idaho students stabbed to death, were likely asleep - Nov 17, 2022

podcasts.apple.com

Wow.

 

[Tomagachi]

At this point, one week later, I think it is safe to say all options are on the table. My bet is on a random psycho, who might have spotted Kaylee at the bar or anywhere.
One of her exes was in Boise, so he should probably be excluded.
I don't know how many exes she had.
But definitely, IMHO, Kaylee is at the center of this mystery.

MM BF was in the city stated not KG's ex.

 

[Warwick7]

This is what confuses me. The victims were all violently stabbed in their upper body. It is described as a very bloody crime scene.

So the 911 call seems a bit odd to me. If I saw a person that I would first describe to police, 'looked unconscious' IMO that doesn't fit with a bloody crime scene.

JMO
Forgive me if I have any details wrong, I am trying really hard to catch up!

I'm not sure they could see him. My suspicion is that he was in the locked bedroom. I think they may have heard a phone continuously ringing. Or an alarm that wouldnt stop going off. My guess is they banged and banged on the door and no one would answer. They got worried and called his brother/siblings since he lived close close by. That relative called 911.
MOO

 

[Snoopster]

You can refer to the other statements made on this thread regarding this subject. This is a subject probably too close/personal for me to be getting into. Sorry.

Sorry. I had only been responding to your post.
I'm sorry if it's too close and personal. <hugs>

 

[Mommy123!]

There is nothing wrong with a "random hookup". We don't even know if the victims had arranged "hookups". And even if they did, no one expects to meet a psycho killer.

I agree, no one would ever expect to meet a psycho killer and I don not think it is wrong. It just is another scenario

 

[Sandvol]

Or if he knows who skinned the dog and that that person could not have committed this crime. (Maybe they’re currently in jail, deceased, etc).

The police said the skinned dog was due to wildlife. Maybe wolves or coyotes. Or a Bobcat.

 

[Sandvol]

A call could be a trigger and set the perp off. Or, one of the girls make a call to her ex boyfriend from 2 phones around 2:45 in a panic because the perp is getting crazy. All things to consider when nothing has been concluded.

Doesn't fit what we've been told. They were killed in their sleep.

 

[Curiosa20]

IMO, The more that comes out, the more it becomes apparent that the killer was in the house already when the 4 arrived home.

Upstairs was bloodier.
Xana had defense wounds.

Those two reports tell me he was really brutal to K and M, and had to take our X and E quickly.

It’s not easy to break into a house with 4 people there, even if they’re drunk. It’s much easier, particularly knowing via social media that they would not be there, to sneak in, hide in a bedroom and wait. Killing people in their sleep is the act of a coward… not someone that would brazenly break into a house with people home.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if his original intent WAS SA, or maybe to just watch them, and then he lost it while watching K and M talk in bed talking about other guys, destroying his potential fantasy in his head.

Is there a closet in Ks bedroom?

What is your source around rhe blood?

 

[isabella88]

C

Wow.

Right after 22-minute mark. Coroner closer to 26-minute mark.

 

[isabella88]

Sorry. I had only been responding to your post.
I'm sorry if it's too close and personal. <hugs>

Thanks! Tried to post a heart but it didn't work.

 

[Curiosa20]

I don't believe that it was reported anywhere. It was reported that the upper floors (second and third floors) were bloody:


"Officers at the scene on Tuesday described a bloody crime scene, particularly on the upper floors of the house."

University of Idaho homicide victims believed stabbed to death in 'isolated, targeted attack': police | Fox News

No suspects in University of Idaho attack in custody as of Tuesday morning

www.foxnews.com

Oh yes! I had forgotten that.
What stands out for me is the use of “particularly” for the upper two floors. That's where the students were killed so it makes sense.
But then, it sounds like maybe he went downstairs? Yikes!

 

[Sandvol]

No they didn't.

Moscow Police: FBI now accepting tips, skinned dog unrelated to murder - KXLY

MOSCOW, Idaho — The Moscow Police Department released an update on findings in the quadruple murder investigation at the University of Idaho. Moscow Police say the FBI is continuing to assist them in the investigation. The FBI is now accepting tips and digital media at fbi.gov/moscowidaho...

www.kxly.com

 

[MinnyPin]

Ashleigh Banfield had the coroner Cathy Mabbutt on her show on Thursday where the coroner seemed to confirm the substance dripping down the exterior side of the house is blood.

Ashleigh: “Ms. Mabbutt, we showed a picture a moment ago of a wall on the outside of the house. It looked like the foundation on the outside of the house. I’m gonna ask the control room to put that picture up again. This was fairly shocking to see. It’s blood dripping on the outside of the house, almost as though it may be seeping from the inside. Does that sound congruent with the results of the crime scene that you were able to ascertain from your work?”

Mabbutt: “Um, from my observations, yes.”

Ashleigh: “And can you tell me if that means this might have been one of the bedrooms or where the beds were that one of the victim’s was stabbed, this particular area of the house?”

Mabbutt: “I think that’s pretty likely, yes.”

Ashleigh then asked her if there was anything else she could say about that scene and she said no.

I can only find the podcast link.

Banfield: Coroner: Idaho students stabbed to death, were likely asleep on Apple Podcasts

Show Banfield, Ep Coroner: Idaho students stabbed to death, were likely asleep - Nov 17, 2022

podcasts.apple.com

This makes me sick. I was hoping it was not blood. These kids deserve justice. I am so mad right now for their families and the lives they deserved.

 

[Russian Blue]

I'm not sure they could see him. My suspicion is that he was in the locked bedroom. I think they may have heard a phone continuously ringing. Or an alarm that wouldnt stop going off. My guess is they banged and banged on the door and no one would answer. They got worried and called his brother/siblings since he lived close close by. That relative called 911.
MOO

There was a locked bedroom, I totally missed that. Where was that brought up?