Yes, IIRC, it was DK that bolsterd the story of "the newer black Rubicon". The creep in a jeep?
Yes, but that was all "according to Vilt".
Yes, IIRC, it was DK that bolsterd the story of "the newer black Rubicon". The creep in a jeep?
Yes, but that was all "according to Vilt".
I guess Bessie was mistaken on this point. However, it is true JM didn't originally say she saw it but attributed it to the clerk at the store. Now...did the clerk at the store really say it? The Sheriff didn't mention anything about it and said the clerk saw a child with that description either. What he did say about the store was the clerk was probably too busy, IIRC. This indicates to me the story didn't come from the clerk in the first place.
This could also account for the classification of the story being a "farce" as Klein put it: There was no black truck...Rubicon or otherwise. (Except for DeOrr Sr's black truck)
My thought has always been TMI. People making such claims when they are not true often tend to add tiny details to make the story seem more plausible.Another element in the farce. I mean, why on earth, if you just kidnapped a kid, would you TAKE HIM OUT IN PUBLIC to BUY CANDY, especially when he was crying? I mean, is this the most inept and amateur kidnapper ever? (Of course, he's a figment of the imagination, so . . . )
That was my point. The expensive looking black Rubicon all came from Vilt. It was never mentioned prior to this. There was extensive conversation going on about the creepy looking man staring that made the parents uncomfortable not being mentioned when DeOrr first went missing. It was only after the "woman" called in her account that the parents suddenly remembered the creepy man and the expensive looking Rubicon. My hinky meter went up with the use of "expensive" in both their descriptions.
Thanks you. Thats exactly how I remember it. Seems clear enough for me. I was just to lazy to chime in and say it.I'm not really sure why this is confusing people. During the initial interview JM and DK said that a clerk at the store had reported a man in a black truck with a dirty child was in the store at around 6:00 pm the day Deorr Jr. disappeared. The sheriff later said that this supposed tip from the store clerk was never confirmed.
Two months go by and Vilt gets involved in the case and starts digging around for proof that Deorr was abducted. He gets the tip from the couple in Swan Valley who report a creepy guy in a black jeep. At some point JM says that there was a creepy guy at the store in Leadore staring at her and Deorr jr. when they were there at 12:00 noon the day he disappeared. According to Vilt, DK claimed that he remembers seeing a black jeep there during that noon visit.
It was two different stories about black vehicles that were in no way related. One black jeep that was reported to be there at noon and one black truck that a clerk might have seen at 6:00 pm that evening. LE and Klein have been unable to confirm either story.
Vilt sure tried to muddy the water in this case. He wanted fingers pointed in every other direction except at the 4 people at the campsite. Much of what he said was unbelievable to me from the onset. I took it as him trying to come up with scenarios to keep his clients out of the spotlight while continuing to string them along.
I don't get the feeling Klein is doing the same at all. He really appears to be following the leads of the investigation instead of driving it where he would like it to go.
Vilt sure tried to muddy the water in this case. He wanted fingers pointed in every other direction except at the 4 people at the campsite. Much of what he said was unbelievable to me from the onset. I took it as him trying to come up with scenarios to keep his clients out of the spotlight while continuing to string them along.
I don't get the feeling Klein is doing the same at all. He really appears to be following the leads of the investigation instead of driving it where he would like it to go.
https://www.facebook.com/KleinInvestigations/?fref=nf,
In the post regarding the east Idaho story, KIC comments that they were not saying that JM lied about the Jeep Rubicon.
There was another comment yesterday, that is not there today, implying that the Rubicon "farce" stemmed from Mr. Vilt.
As far as the forensic evidence, it's nothing new. We've known about that for a long time.
SB said that he had sent evidence to the FBI for analysis some months back.
I wonder when LE will speak out like KI has?
It's true. That was said very early on. I think the only difference is that we didn't know that that forensic evidence pointed to the fact that little boy is deceased.
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BBMI'm mighty confused about all these vehicles as your terminology is different so I've had a google and tried to English-ise them. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.
Rubicon = 4x4 like a Landrover/Range Rover (mainly owned by country folk or city slickers clogging up pavements on the school run!)
Truck = pick up truck with a cab and flat open back (mainly used by farmers / labourers, not a family vehicle as only has front seats)
Camper = like a campervan / small winnebago (used for touring holidays)
Suburban = looks like a mix between a 4x4 and an estate car. (don't know what to call this in the UK )
So which of the vehicles were driven by whom to the campsite? DK in the truck? Was IR driving? Was Grandpa driving? (surely not) Someone mentioned Grandpas camper and Suburban which has really confused me. Help!
I'm mighty confused about all these vehicles as your terminology is different so I've had a google and tried to English-ise them. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.
Rubicon = 4x4 like a Landrover/Range Rover (mainly owned by country folk or city slickers clogging up pavements on the school run!)
Truck = pick up truck with a cab and flat open back (mainly used by farmers / labourers, not a family vehicle as only has front seats)
Camper = like a campervan / small winnebago (used for touring holidays)
Suburban = looks like a mix between a 4x4 and an estate car. (don't know what to call this in the UK )
So which of the vehicles were driven by whom to the campsite? DK in the truck? Was IR driving? Was Grandpa driving? (surely not) Someone mentioned Grandpas camper and Suburban which has really confused me. Help!