ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow - Tylee Ryan - Tammy Daybell - Charles Vallow - *Arrests* #70

[SteveS]

Every time this trial came close to happening for Lori, she was deemed by the defense to be incapable of defending herself
and needed mental health support. Happened twice. Finally, the judge agreed to drop the death penalty if the trial
could occur in a timely manner.

That's not how it worked (on either issue).

The determination that Lori was incapable was NOT a decision by the defense, but rather by COURT-appointed independent experts. That was followed by independent treatment, and eventually an independent determination was made that she was capable.

And the dropping of the DP had NOTHING to do with the delays for incapacity. If anything, those delays offered the prosecution MORE opportunity to get their ducks in a row in a timely manner, giving them MORE time to provide full evidence disclosure to the defense by the deadline as required, which they unfortunately failed to do.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Moreover, the “Church of the Firstborn,” was also referenced in an e-mail allegedly sent from Chad Daybell to Lori Vallow in early 2019.


I'm fairly certain most of us have seen this, but it's IMO worth re-reading.



"The e-mail included the “7 Seven missions to accomplish together,” which included:

1. Translate ancient records
2. Write the book about the translation process
3. Identify locations in northeast Arizona for white camps
4. Presidency of the Church of Firstborn
5. Help establish the food distribution as the tribulations start and the delegate
6. Ordain individuals to translation as the camps begin
7. Provide supplies to righteous members of families

Court Documents Allege Cult Connection For Lori Vallow, Chad Daybell

Court documents filed in the case of two missing children out of Idaho made allegations that Lori Vallow, Chad Daybell, and her niece were part of a cult that could be the linked to the children's disappearance.

ksltv.com

 

[Niner]

Tuesday, April 18th:
*Trial continues (Day 6) (@ 8:30am – 3:30pm MT) – ID – Joshua Jaxon (JJ) Vallow (7) & Tylee Ashlyn Ryan (16) (JJ last seen Sept. 23, 2019 & Tylee on Sept. 9, 2019, Rexburg; found June 9, 2020 buried in Daybell’s yard in Salem, ID) – *Lori Norene Vallow aka Lori Norene Daybell (46/now 49) arrested (in Kauai, Hawaii on 2/20/20) & indicted & charged (5/25/21) & re-arraigned (4/19/22) with Count 1 (for Tylee): Conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder & grand theft by deception (for Daybell, Vallow & Alex Cox) & other co-conspirators. Count 2 (for Tylee): 1st degree murder. Count 3 (for JJ): Conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder & grand theft by deception. Count 4(for JJ): 1st degree murder. Count 5 (for Tammy): Conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder. Count 6: Lori only: Grand theft (related to social security survivor benefits allocated for the care of minors Tylee & JJ). Plead not guilty. DA will seek DP. Was transferred to Ada County jail on 3/22/23. Fremont County
Conspiracy to commit destruction, alteration or concealment of evidence charges dismissed without prejudice on 7/29/21. Fremont County
Resisting or obstructing LE, solicitation of a crime & contempt of court. All charges were dismissed on 1/3/22. Madison County
Trial began on 4/3/23 with jury selection & ended 4/7/23. 12 jurors & 6 alternates (10 men & 8 women).
Trial began on 4/10/23 (thru 6/9/23) @ 8:30am to 3:30pm. Trial will be held in Ada County. (will last about 10 weeks) Trials have been severed.
Arrest & Grand Jury & Competency & Court info from 3/5/20 thru 3/30/23 & Jury Selection Day 1-5 (4/3-4/7/23) & Trial Day 1-4 (4/10-4/13/23) reference post #460 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bell-charles-vallow-arrests-69.674046/page-23
4/14/23 Friday, Trial Day 5: State witness: Chandler Police Detective Lt. Nathan Duncan continues on stand.
For more info see post #529 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bell-charles-vallow-arrests-69.674046/page-27
State witness: Zulema Pastenes.
For more info see post #584 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bell-charles-vallow-arrests-69.674046/page-30
For more info see post #749 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bell-charles-vallow-arrests-69.674046/page-38
Trial continues on Tuesday, 4/18/23 @ 8:30am & ends every day at 3:30pm.
*Chad Guy Daybell (53/now 54) – Pretrial motions hearing on 3/2/23. Trial was set to begin on 4/3/23 was vacated.

 

[mrjitty]

I'm surprised this case isn't getting more attention after the initial Hawaii splash back in the day?

This has to be one of the craziest cult murder cases in a while?

 

[Kemug]

@Trebor5591
Responding to your post on last thread. Yes, I know there are no portals and they were lying. My post was obviously a joke.

What, no portals?! And to think that I've just wasted the last year or so in my wardrobe!

 

[Kemug]

It is sad for the innocent people in the family , how hard it is for them to comprehend such evil from someone they cared for. My opnion.

I think Chad's parents and children are probably going through this right now. MOO

 

[Onsdag]

DAY 10 | LIVE UPDATES: Alex Cox's widow says Chad and Lori Daybell taught demons needed to be bound or burned - East Idaho News

LIVE UPDATES FROM THE LORI VALLOW DAYBELL TRIAL Here are the sketches from today. 3:23 p.m. Thomas has more cross-examination, but questioning is done for the day. The jury is being dismissed. No court on Monday, but we will resume Tuesday at 8:30 a.m. I’ll post the sketches and audio when we...

www.eastidahonews.com

9:12 a.m. A woman named Nicole Earl texted Lori on Oct. 19, saying that Chad’s wife Tammy had died. Lori responded. “Oh my gosh. I did not hear that.” Nicole asks Lori what happened. Lori responded that Tammy awoke in the night coughing and then died. Melanie Gibb sent Lori a message later the same day. “I hear what happened to Chad’s wife. Oh my gosh!” Lori responded, “Hello What?”

Huh. So Lori claims via text that she hadn't heard of Tammy dying, but then when pressed for details she goes on to give an explanation of how she died.

It's clear Lori knew what happened but was feigning ignorance to hide her involvement as a co-conspirator.

 

[Gardenista]

"If you got on her bad side, she could be vicious"

 

[wnk]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648314928913354755

I laughed out loud at this part. ("James" is CD's code name for himself within this 'novel') If 99% of the people in your life don't realize that you're "blessed with great knowledge," that might be a sign.



I also wonder if there's a statute of limitations on texting while driving...

 

[BUF]

I guess he was headed to his portal…

Two days after Alex Cox killed Charles Vallow, #ChadDaybell wrote to #LoriVallow: I'm am heading to bed so that I can come snuggle tightly against you. I adore you!.....See you in a minute!" (telepathically.....)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648316015040933889

 

[Love Never Fails]

I think Chad's parents and children are probably going through this right now. MOO

Wasn’t it covered here that his parents and his children have bought his whole belief system? I can’t see them as victims when they let Chad turn them against Tammy. The parents even turned on Chads brother who saw right through him.

He is a monster and these people who have believed in him are foolishly blind.

I feel bad for Charles and his sons, for JJ and his grandparents, for Tylee and Colby, for Annie, Tylees Aunt, for Adam (Lori’s brother and the only decent one in the family), and for Tammy and those who really loved her.

 

[Emi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648132863311872002

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648146695358943233

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648314928913354755

I laughed out loud at this part. ("James" is CD's code name for himself within this 'novel') If 99% of the people in your life don't realize that you're "blessed with great knowledge," that might be a sign.

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I also wonder if there's a statute of limitations on texting while driving...

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I had to stop reading it because i was laughing too much. Pretty hilarious "James" goes on and on about them meeting each other and texting (yet no mention of either of them having spouses).

 

[Tortoise]

There's another Surviving the Survivor #best guests in true crime (youtube) video up, with Skye Borgman, the director of Sins of our Mother, Lori Hellis and Jessica Bublitz.

 

[Nikynoo]

Wasn’t it covered here that his parents and his children have bought his whole belief system? I can’t see them as victims when they let Chad turn them against Tammy. The parents even turned on Chads brother who saw right through him.

He is a monster and these people who have believed in him are foolishly blind.

I feel bad for Charles and his sons, for JJ and his grandparents, for Tylee and Colby, for Annie, Tylees Aunt, for Adam (Lori’s brother and the only decent one in the family), and for Tammy and those who really loved her.

I am wondering what Tammy thought about Chad's belief system - did she buy it or not?

 

[TigerLou]

I had to stop reading it because i was laughing too much. Pretty hilarious "James" goes on and on about them meeting each other and texting (yet no mention of either of them having spouses).

I couldn't with the loin fires!

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

I couldn't with the loin fires!

Hhahaha, I know! "A long awaited make out session" -- are they 15 year olds in a movie theater?

Also, "Thankfully she had worn 16 layers of clothing to survive the 80 degree weather" WHAT? That sounds like she was going to have heat stroke.

 

[BUF]

I hope people will obey the orders concerning phones and not blow it for everyone where no electronic devices will be allowed in court … then no real time tweeting!

Bailiff reminds everyone in the courtroom to not hold up their phones or they will be checked. Defense attorney Jim Archibald says he observed someone in the courtroom taking photos. The woman is escorted out to have her phone checked.

https://twitter.com/NateNewsNow

 

[Emi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648327626065608704

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648329157405970432

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648331503280197633

 

[Emi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648333904582164480

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648334612039618564

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648335135513939971