Do you know when Garth returned home from work?IMO Garth was at work and Alex was present for the murder.
Will Garth be testifying for the prosecution?
Do you know when Garth returned home from work?IMO Garth was at work and Alex was present for the murder.
One of my siblings used to engage in a tickle torture involving sitting on my stomach with her knees immobilizing my arms, so that her hands were free to tickle me mercilessly.I’m still scratching my head as to how this was done. Any ideas?
Could have used a plastic bag. JMOWas she held down by one person and smothered with an object by another?? Or, it's just one person doing both?
But I think it was an incorrect guess, because she didn't have an autopsy until she was exhumed.so, just having a cursory google
Sagepub says often the typical signs of asphyxia, which include all of these
- petechiae
- cyanosis
- facial congestion
- oedema
are not found at autopsy when a bag has been used
here we have the oedema but none of the others
have edited the post wrt the reason they many have wanted to use this method on Tammy. ( because it usually leaves no signs)But I think it was an incorrect guess, because she didn't have an autopsy until she was exhumed.
I think this is why Chad dropped Tammy on the floor. He wanted any bruises to be justified, but he may not have understood about the lack of bruising after circulation stops. I think he let Alex into the house after Tammy went to sleep, while Garth was gone, and one of them held her arms and one of them held a pillow over her face.
easier this way
'The diagram has markings that represent bruises on Tammy's arms and chest. There were 6 bruises on the front of her body. On the back there were 4 bruise
Bruising: Left front - bicep and collarbone area Right - 3 on upper arm, and one on the forearm
Bruising on the back - 2 on back of arm behind tricep area & 2 on the back of the forearm
No bruising on the lower body
They are going to show photos of the bruising taken at autopsy.
A couple will not be on the big screen - I think they're revealing in the chest area
A purple looking bruise is shown on screen. 2nd photo shows the cluster of bruises
Back of R forearm shows round bruises
I am no medical examiner but these look like bruises from a hand
They made an incision in the arm showing hemorrhage and took a tissue sample of the area
They show the sample they took from her arm. It shows the injury progression. Hemorrhage is the initial stage. All of the bruisings showed only hemorrhage which means they were prior to her death. Once circulation stops it doesn't hemorrhage
He points out the hemorrhage on the screen. Subcutaneous fat is normally yellow - this is dark showing bleeding
Photo of sample taken from her right forearm. You see bright yellow subcutaneous fat but also bleeding which meant it was a fresh bruise.
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@PrettyLiesAlibi
Chart from HTC ( not the actual chart, Lauren's sketch)
She'd have pulled off a bag while it was being put on, if there was only one perp. She was in good shape. IMO someone had to hold her down and incapacitate her while the other person smothered her.Could have used a plastic bag. JMO
I think this is why Chad dropped Tammy on the floor. He wanted any bruises to be justified, but he may not have understood about the lack of bruising after circulation stops. I think he let Alex into the house after Tammy went to sleep, while Garth was gone, and one of them held her arms and one of them held a pillow over her face.
Lol- she has decent all CAPS restraint. I could see why you'd look for an explanation.So if Brenda Dye put P Edema as CoD that explains Gigi using all CAPS
can anyone explain why they only tested hair against DNA from Tylee, MelG & Lori?
( Wouldn't they also want to test it against JJ's & Alex's ?)
As an aside, a friend of mine said to me years ago, I ran into a mutual friend of yours- tall gal with long blonde hair. Took me the longest time to figure it out because I knew 3 women at the time who fit that description.JMO perhaps it was due to it being blond and longer, and those three had blond hair. JJ and Alex did not.
yes they learned lessons as they murdered ( After Tylee, they realised the difficulties of using fire)Could have used a plastic bag. JMO
I just had jury duty last month, I was an alternate. There was not 1 shred of evidence, the entire case was circumstantial based on the testimony of a young child for an event that happened one time. I obviously didn't get to debate with the jury as I was an alternate but they voted the individual guilty based solely on one child's testimony. The hair is Lori's nail in the coffin.
Watching court TV is one thing but actually being in the court room on the jury is so different. I don't know why people are quick to blow off the hair, but IMO there is no way she will be found not guilty.
It’s been bugging me how CD & AC could have burned and dismembered and buried Tylee in such a short period of time. I went back and read an interview of a neighbor (link posted below). The neighbor mentions a bonfire last fall and a two or three more this spring - the interview was in June of 2020 right after the remains were found. I am now wondering whether they might have done more of the dismembering and burning in the spring of 2020 at one or more of these other bonfires.
Your thoughts on this possibility?
ETA oops I forgot the link…here it is..
I agree with everything in your post with the exception that I think they put a plastic bag over her head, both then held her until she died.I think this is why Chad dropped Tammy on the floor. He wanted any bruises to be justified, but he may not have understood about the lack of bruising after circulation stops. I think he let Alex into the house after Tammy went to sleep, while Garth was gone, and one of them held her arms and one of them held a pillow over her face.